Off Topic · Was Ben and Jerry's LinSensitive? (page 1)

Then we can just look down on others for where they were born, how much the delivering doctor made at the time, and what quality of ink they have.

We look back at earlier ages for their stupid ideas, like maybe the guys that thought earth was flat!! And they will look at us and say "ah, the age of being offended!!"

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:It's getting absurd. Well, it's been absurd for a while.

We look back at earlier ages for their stupid ideas, like maybe the guys that thought earth was flat!! And they will look at us and say "ah, the age of being offended!!"

soungs like a bigot rationalizing his bigotry, orangeblobman

Other than that, I don't understand why they had to issue an apology!

Nalod wrote:
They should aplogize for not getting it earlier that the fortune cookie material they used got soggy in ice cream.

Other than that, I don't understand why they had to issue an apology!

Agreed. They're ice cream people, they should know better to test the stuff first.

But as for whether it was offensive? Clearly it was done to give props to the kid, not as a racial attack of any sort so people should take that into consideration and calm down a bit. I was born in a country that's well known for it's tea production. Would I be offended if someone made an ice cream in my honor that was green tea flavored? Absolutely not.

JonsTintedTails wrote:People are way too sensitive.

Would it be too sensitive if after Obama was elected President, that Ben and Jerry's added a Watermelon flavored ice cream at Harvard? or how about if whenever they have a sale or reduced price they called it a "Jew Special"? If some of you haven't seen it yet, youtube the SNL skit they did about Jeremy Lin a couple weeks ago. The point of that was the stereotypes we put on Asians are no less offensive than stereotypes applied to African-Americans, Mexicans, or any other minority, but we don't think of it as offensive because Asian-Americans just aren't taken very seriously as a minority group in the US, even though they are.

They're all the same so if you'e not going to be racially sensitive to one group, then you have to be racially sensitive to all of them. it will take time for people to get over it because goofing on Asians is so casually done, but if Lin has any effect on America its forcing us to re-look at how we treat Asians, just like Jackie Robinson did for African-Americans back in the day. We have to remember there hasn't been a prominent Asian-American in American pop culture since like ... nobody. So it will take time for all of us to adjust, but adjustment is needed.

MinsHeartsReezy wrote: I was born in a country that's well known for it's tea production. Would I be offended if someone made an ice cream in my honor that was green tea flavored? Absolutely not.

No, because no one stereotypes, ridicules,makes jokes or goofs on you or your country about making tea.

Voltron wrote:

JonsTintedTails wrote:People are way too sensitive.

Would it be too sensitive if after Obama was elected President, that Ben and Jerry's added a Watermelon flavored ice cream at Harvard? or how about if whenever they have a sale or reduced price they called it a "Jew Special"? If some of you haven't seen it yet, youtube the SNL skit they did about Jeremy Lin a couple weeks ago. The point of that was the stereotypes we put on Asians are no less offensive than stereotypes applied to African-Americans, Mexicans, or any other minority, but we don't think of it as offensive because Asian-Americans just aren't taken very seriously as a minority group in the US, even though they are.

They're all the same so if you'e not going to be racially sensitive to one group, then you have to be racially sensitive to all of them. it will take time for people to get over it because goofing on Asians is so casually done, but if Lin has any effect on America its forcing us to re-look at how we treat Asians, just like Jackie Robinson did for African-Americans back in the day. We have to remember there hasn't been a prominent Asian-American in American pop culture since like ... nobody. So it will take time for all of us to adjust, but adjustment is needed.

Would it be too sensitive if after Obama was elected President, that Ben and Jerry's added a Watermelon flavored ice cream at Harvard?

Good example. Is honey and Lychee an offensive flavor depicting a negative stereotype image?

Watermelon attached to a black american is.

I can see if Ben & Jerry's had "Cat" flavored ice cream (sarcastic) that would be hateful.

I get your message.

Ignorance breeds fear and familiarity breeds confidence.

It takes time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ufpU3X-t4w

OasisBU wrote:

Voltron wrote:

JonsTintedTails wrote:People are way too sensitive.

Would it be too sensitive if after Obama was elected President, that Ben and Jerry's added a Watermelon flavored ice cream at Harvard? or how about if whenever they have a sale or reduced price they called it a "Jew Special"? If some of you haven't seen it yet, youtube the SNL skit they did about Jeremy Lin a couple weeks ago. The point of that was the stereotypes we put on Asians are no less offensive than stereotypes applied to African-Americans, Mexicans, or any other minority, but we don't think of it as offensive because Asian-Americans just aren't taken very seriously as a minority group in the US, even though they are.

They're all the same so if you'e not going to be racially sensitive to one group, then you have to be racially sensitive to all of them. it will take time for people to get over it because goofing on Asians is so casually done, but if Lin has any effect on America its forcing us to re-look at how we treat Asians, just like Jackie Robinson did for African-Americans back in the day. We have to remember there hasn't been a prominent Asian-American in American pop culture since like ... nobody. So it will take time for all of us to adjust, but adjustment is needed.

Stereotypes are not just applied to minorities.

You're right, I forgot about the stereotype applied to white people that they have more developed brains, are the only ones capable of being in charge from everything from fast food to corporations, can only be trusted to handle a crisis (locally or internationall), are rich, more educated, are the only ones capable of rescuing minorities from themselves, are the only ones capable of visiting 3rd world nations and rescuing them from oppression since they can't rescue themselves, are even tempered, don't spend money foolishly, are the epitomy of physical attractiveness, are law abiding, the only ones that work hard for a living, are all legal US citizens, are incapable of commiting any sort of crime other than white collar crime, are the only ones who can actually write music, are the only ones who can actually play musical instruments (along with Asians but only play cello), the only ones smart enough to run a business, can be trusted, don't abuse their women, are the only ones capable of voicing an actual main hero in an animated film, and don't steal. Did I miss anything?

Oh, you mean negative stereotypes .... hmmmm, can't dance, can't jump, have small penises, and .... that's about it. If you weren't referring to white people, then don't take this post personally, its just directed at anyone else who might have thought that. I also don't mean to turn this into a bashing white people post, but for anyone to think a white majority is somehow a victim of oppresion is sort of silly. I don't believe there are any prejudices against whites in basketball anymore, as we've seen prominent whites at basically every position. Even in football, white wide receivers are more widespread and accepted.

Hippo wrote:Remember what a racist controversy it created when Fuzzy Zoeller made his fried chicken and collard greens comment against Tiger Woods. (who ironically is more Asian than African American or Native American). The media can't have one standard for one set of people and another standard for other groups of people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ufpU3X-t4w

Masters Tournament in Augusta has had a segregated southern history.

I thought Fuzzy said it in jest as it would really put their history on the plate. Sort of a retribution for having a checkered past. Taken the wrong way its offensive.

Voltron wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

Voltron wrote:

JonsTintedTails wrote:People are way too sensitive.

Would it be too sensitive if after Obama was elected President, that Ben and Jerry's added a Watermelon flavored ice cream at Harvard? or how about if whenever they have a sale or reduced price they called it a "Jew Special"? If some of you haven't seen it yet, youtube the SNL skit they did about Jeremy Lin a couple weeks ago. The point of that was the stereotypes we put on Asians are no less offensive than stereotypes applied to African-Americans, Mexicans, or any other minority, but we don't think of it as offensive because Asian-Americans just aren't taken very seriously as a minority group in the US, even though they are.

They're all the same so if you'e not going to be racially sensitive to one group, then you have to be racially sensitive to all of them. it will take time for people to get over it because goofing on Asians is so casually done, but if Lin has any effect on America its forcing us to re-look at how we treat Asians, just like Jackie Robinson did for African-Americans back in the day. We have to remember there hasn't been a prominent Asian-American in American pop culture since like ... nobody. So it will take time for all of us to adjust, but adjustment is needed.

Stereotypes are not just applied to minorities.

You're right, I forgot about the stereotype applied to white people that they have more developed brains, are the only ones capable of being in charge from everything from fast food to corporations, can only be trusted to handle a crisis (locally or internationall), are rich, more educated, are the only ones capable of rescuing minorities from themselves, are the only ones capable of visiting 3rd world nations and rescuing them from oppression since they can't rescue themselves, are even tempered, don't spend money foolishly, are the epitomy of physical attractiveness, are law abiding, the only ones that work hard for a living, are all legal US citizens, are incapable of commiting any sort of crime other than white collar crime, are the only ones who can actually write music, are the only ones who can actually play musical instruments (along with Asians but only play cello), the only ones smart enough to run a business, can be trusted, don't abuse their women, are the only ones capable of voicing an actual main hero in an animated film, and don't steal. Did I miss anything?

Oh, you mean negative stereotypes .... hmmmm, can't dance, can't jump, have small penises, and .... that's about it. If you weren't referring to white people, then don't take this post personally, its just directed at anyone else who might have thought that. I also don't mean to turn this into a bashing white people post, but for anyone to think a white majority is somehow a victim of oppresion is sort of silly. I don't believe there are any prejudices against whites in basketball anymore, as we've seen prominent whites at basically every position. Even in football, white wide receivers are more widespread and accepted.

I deleted my post because I didn't want to get into it, nobody said anything about the majority being the victims of oppression. It sounds like you are mixing up stereotypes, racism, ignorance, and oppression into your argument.

Now I am not that sensitive so what you wrote does not bother me because I know its not true.

Voltron wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

Voltron wrote:

JonsTintedTails wrote:People are way too sensitive.

Would it be too sensitive if after Obama was elected President, that Ben and Jerry's added a Watermelon flavored ice cream at Harvard? or how about if whenever they have a sale or reduced price they called it a "Jew Special"? If some of you haven't seen it yet, youtube the SNL skit they did about Jeremy Lin a couple weeks ago. The point of that was the stereotypes we put on Asians are no less offensive than stereotypes applied to African-Americans, Mexicans, or any other minority, but we don't think of it as offensive because Asian-Americans just aren't taken very seriously as a minority group in the US, even though they are.

They're all the same so if you'e not going to be racially sensitive to one group, then you have to be racially sensitive to all of them. it will take time for people to get over it because goofing on Asians is so casually done, but if Lin has any effect on America its forcing us to re-look at how we treat Asians, just like Jackie Robinson did for African-Americans back in the day. We have to remember there hasn't been a prominent Asian-American in American pop culture since like ... nobody. So it will take time for all of us to adjust, but adjustment is needed.

Stereotypes are not just applied to minorities.

You're right, I forgot about the stereotype applied to white people that they have more developed brains, are the only ones capable of being in charge from everything from fast food to corporations, can only be trusted to handle a crisis (locally or internationall), are rich, more educated, are the only ones capable of rescuing minorities from themselves, are the only ones capable of visiting 3rd world nations and rescuing them from oppression since they can't rescue themselves, are even tempered, don't spend money foolishly, are the epitomy of physical attractiveness, are law abiding, the only ones that work hard for a living, are all legal US citizens, are incapable of commiting any sort of crime other than white collar crime, are the only ones who can actually write music, are the only ones who can actually play musical instruments (along with Asians but only play cello), the only ones smart enough to run a business, can be trusted, don't abuse their women, are the only ones capable of voicing an actual main hero in an animated film, and don't steal. Did I miss anything?

Oh, you mean negative stereotypes .... hmmmm, can't dance, can't jump, have small penises, and .... that's about it. If you weren't referring to white people, then don't take this post personally, its just directed at anyone else who might have thought that. I also don't mean to turn this into a bashing white people post, but for anyone to think a white majority is somehow a victim of oppresion is sort of silly. I don't believe there are any prejudices against whites in basketball anymore, as we've seen prominent whites at basically every position. Even in football, white wide receivers are more widespread and accepted.

I deleted my post because I didn't want to get into it, nobody said anything about the majority being the victims of oppression. It sounds like you are mixing up stereotypes, racism, ignorance, and oppression into your argument.

Now I am not that sensitive so what you wrote does not bother me because I know its not true.

Voltron wrote:

MinsHeartsReezy wrote: I was born in a country that's well known for it's tea production. Would I be offended if someone made an ice cream in my honor that was green tea flavored? Absolutely not.

No, because no one stereotypes, ridicules,makes jokes or goofs on you or your country about making tea.

You missed the point. The point was that the intention of this act of dedicating a lychee flavored ice cream with pieces of fortune cookie was not to insult the guy or to make any negative connotation about someone who has an Asian heritage.
P.S. there are plenty of negative, racially charged and ignorant things people say about people from my country relating to tea-picking under the burning sun if you catch my drift, YOU'RE just not aware of them. But again, taken in the context of what I was saying earlier, I would not be offended one bit. In fact, your comment illustrates my point as in that instance, you were only remarking about tea because I stated the unquestioned fact that it is a major export. You saw nothing derogatory in that.

Further more, lychee are tropical fruits found in Asia, my mother country included, and fortune cookies are something sold in 99.9% of Chinese food restaurants in America. These are facts, not a negative prejudiced generalization of a population. Out of the whole host of fruit's and vegetables commonly used in Asian cuisine, those were some pretty good selections. Durian flavored ice cream with candied ginger or candied water chestnut probably would not appeal to many people or as many people as what they originally came up with.

This incident doesn't even come anywhere near the previous racial slur used by ESPN reporters in reference to Lin. I literally cringed when I read that. There is a clear difference between these two incidents.

edited- double quoted accidentally