Lin actually understands the priority of the offense is to get the best and most efficient shot every time they can. Melo may not fully recognize what those shots are, since he feels any shot he takes is a good shot. This is typical for scorers. The thing is that Lin is right more often than not. Melo got most of his shots within the offense and that's why he had an efficient game. If he continues to play this way then we'll be in great shape.
Those passes leading directly to scoring opportunities are what this offense is all about. That's why this offense has been one of the most efficient offenses in the league but you have to have everyone buy into the ball sharing and constantly looking for the open man going right to the basket or the guy open for a great shot. You can see that as a team they are fully buying into the system and having fun. That's what D'Antoni ball is all about and these guys will love it, Melo included.
Moonangie@ 3/1/2012 12:59 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I don't know for certain, but I wouldn't be surprised. On the MSG feed off the boradband leaguepass, Bernard King (how cool is it that he does games now) mentioned that everytime Melo got the ball and didn't move it the crowd groaned a little. After he said that I listened for it and that was accurate. My guess is more than anything is he's feeling th epressure to mesh his game to Lin's. Once they get experience together I doubt this will be an issue because there were more than a few awesome set-ups from Lin where Melo got clear paths to the basket
So NOT cool. He was terribly boring, even more than the droll Clyde. I hope it was a one time thing. Clearly I am in the minority here, but it would have put me to sleep if it weren't for the impressive action on the court.
DurzoBlint@ 3/1/2012 1:01 PM
SlimChin wrote:anybody else notice how the garden started groaning when melo was in an iso situation?
and rightfully so. The ball moves, people move, it opens up passing lanes and creates easy shots. Isolation ball is for teams without a good point guard. Seriously, how often did/do you see guys go one on one in Phoenix for example but, you can use pretty much any team with a good point guard.
Anji@ 3/1/2012 1:19 PM
To take the next step the knicks need this guy.........
Ooops, bad iso kobe!!!!!!!!LOL
What can I say, if this coach is smart he will understand that Lin is a sideshow to keep the other guys happy. The main event is getting your best player the ball and punishing teams for letting Kyrie Irving or Ramon Sessions guard Carmelo................... which I saw alot last night but we ran some pickNroll that ended with fields or Shumps taking a jump shot.
JCrusher@ 3/1/2012 1:22 PM
Anji wrote:To take the next step the knicks need this guy.........
Ooops, bad iso kobe!!!!!!!!LOL
What can I say, if this coach is smart he will understand that Lin is a sideshow to keep the other guys happy. The main event is getting your best player the ball and punishing teams for letting Kyrie Irving or Ramon Sessions guard Carmelo................... which I saw alot last night but we ran some play that ended with fields or Shumps taking a jump shot.
"Lin is a sideshow" I tell you for a sideshow he seemed like he saved our season. our main event wasn't main eventing anything earlier in the season
Bippity10@ 3/1/2012 1:24 PM
I've played with the same guys since middle school. Going on x years now. We rarely play without each other. We love playing together and would kill for each other on the court. YOu wouldn't believe some of the things we call each other.
SupremeCommander@ 3/1/2012 1:25 PM
Moonangie wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I don't know for certain, but I wouldn't be surprised. On the MSG feed off the boradband leaguepass, Bernard King (how cool is it that he does games now) mentioned that everytime Melo got the ball and didn't move it the crowd groaned a little. After he said that I listened for it and that was accurate. My guess is more than anything is he's feeling th epressure to mesh his game to Lin's. Once they get experience together I doubt this will be an issue because there were more than a few awesome set-ups from Lin where Melo got clear paths to the basket
So NOT cool. He was terribly boring, even more than the droll Clyde. I hope it was a one time thing. Clearly I am in the minority here, but it would have put me to sleep if it weren't for the impressive action on the court.
I meant it more from the fact that he's a Knick legend pov
Like I said to Briggs, he needs to work on his delivery. But I thought his insight was fantastic
BigRedDog@ 3/1/2012 1:40 PM
Knicksfan wrote:Since we are over-analizing game footage, why don't we analyze Melo's and Lin's embrace after the buzzer and the camaraderie they showed?
This is a team that still finding its groove with the lack of practices. If the play was set and messed up, its fine to let it be known. But at the end, they are a team and they know it, so they will be in the same page at the end.
Can't wait to see this team after the short mini camp of the next three days.
I am not over analizing game footage, as I stated in my post the announcers specifically mentioned it first and then they showed them walking off after the timeout. I was seeing it on the NBA league pass so my video feed was not the same as yours
Bippity10@ 3/1/2012 1:45 PM
BigRedDog wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Since we are over-analizing game footage, why don't we analyze Melo's and Lin's embrace after the buzzer and the camaraderie they showed?
This is a team that still finding its groove with the lack of practices. If the play was set and messed up, its fine to let it be known. But at the end, they are a team and they know it, so they will be in the same page at the end.
Can't wait to see this team after the short mini camp of the next three days.
I am not over analizing game footage, as I stated in my post the announcers specifically mentioned it first and then they showed them walking off after the timeout. I was seeing it on the NBA league pass so my video feed was not the same as yours
You wrote "he seemed pissed off". You are reading in to the situation based on very little information. Maybe he was pissed off, maybe he wasn't. Maybe in the heat of the moemnt he reacted. Maye he was mad about something else. Maybe he hates Lin. Lots of maybes and no real information
Once during a pick up game I was on fire(as usual). Novak like I had hit 4 or 5 long range "are you kidding me" bombs in a row. the next trip down we are out of the fast break and I'm wide open. Nobody picks me up. I'm screaming "money in the bank". My PG ignored me and took it to the hole. He got his shiot swatted and the ohter team came down and hit game point. There was about a 10 game wait so I was piosed. I grabbed the ball and whizzed it at my friends head as hard as I could. My goal was to decapitate him. I LOVE THAT GUY
It's just sports, don't feed in to the media drama.
Bippity10@ 3/1/2012 1:46 PM
Bernard was my favorite player growing up.
He is my lease favorite announcer now. He bores me to tears.
Talk about extrememes
ChuckBuck@ 3/1/2012 1:49 PM
Bippity10 wrote:Bernard was my favorite player growing up.
He is my lease favorite announcer now. He bores me to tears.
Talk about extrememes
Same here, no charisma. At least Clyde has personality.
CashMoney@ 3/1/2012 1:58 PM
There's no Lin Melo problem. There was a point in the game where Chandler was jawing at Lin. Things happen during the course of a game but this team is tight.
yellowboy90@ 3/1/2012 2:00 PM
wow Melo is on a roll. He and Novak take over the game in the third and people searching for problems.
Rookie@ 3/1/2012 2:19 PM
Nothing wrong with a guy with 9 games experience getting advice from one of the games best closers...even if they are overnight international sensations. I would be more concerned if Melo didn't say anything. You only say something if you care.
RoyBatty@ 3/1/2012 2:23 PM
Yeah, I think the team is tight enough and the guys want to do the right thing that you could bring Marbury back and it wouldn't hurt team chemistry.
ChuckBuck@ 3/1/2012 2:31 PM
Melo just wanted to exploit a mismatch, because I think he had like Boobie Gibson or someone small on him, and Lin missed it. Nothing major or nothing to write about. Jordan would rip Pippen, Kukoc, and Kerr new assholes on and off the court and they still went to the same strip clubs after the games.
Anji@ 3/1/2012 2:45 PM
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:To take the next step the knicks need this guy.........
Ooops, bad iso kobe!!!!!!!!LOL
What can I say, if this coach is smart he will understand that Lin is a sideshow to keep the other guys happy. The main event is getting your best player the ball and punishing teams for letting Kyrie Irving or Ramon Sessions guard Carmelo................... which I saw alot last night but we ran some play that ended with fields or Shumps taking a jump shot.
"Lin is a sideshow" I tell you for a sideshow he seemed like he saved our season. our main event wasn't main eventing anything earlier in the season
Come on dude, Lin is a great find, but if this team goes anywhere it will be because we get Melo back to playing like he was before the injuries. Lin will better when he understand that on the court.
13 games does compare to 9 season young padawan.
JCrusher@ 3/1/2012 4:34 PM
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:To take the next step the knicks need this guy.........
Ooops, bad iso kobe!!!!!!!!LOL
What can I say, if this coach is smart he will understand that Lin is a sideshow to keep the other guys happy. The main event is getting your best player the ball and punishing teams for letting Kyrie Irving or Ramon Sessions guard Carmelo................... which I saw alot last night but we ran some play that ended with fields or Shumps taking a jump shot.
"Lin is a sideshow" I tell you for a sideshow he seemed like he saved our season. our main event wasn't main eventing anything earlier in the season
Come on dude, Lin is a great find, but if this team goes anywhere it will be because we get Melo back to playing like he was before the injuries. Lin will better when he understand that on the court.
13 games does compare to 9 season young padawan.
well melo is suppose to be our go to guy i nevr said that. But calling lin a sideshow after pulling this team from the dumps to playoff contention is a little stupid. I mean this stupid lin vs melo crap is pointless since they play for the same team.
Stevo718@ 3/1/2012 5:39 PM
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:To take the next step the knicks need this guy.........
Ooops, bad iso kobe!!!!!!!!LOL
What can I say, if this coach is smart he will understand that Lin is a sideshow to keep the other guys happy. The main event is getting your best player the ball and punishing teams for letting Kyrie Irving or Ramon Sessions guard Carmelo................... which I saw alot last night but we ran some play that ended with fields or Shumps taking a jump shot.
"Lin is a sideshow" I tell you for a sideshow he seemed like he saved our season. our main event wasn't main eventing anything earlier in the season
Come on dude, Lin is a great find, but if this team goes anywhere it will be because we get Melo back to playing like he was before the injuries. Lin will better when he understand that on the court.
13 games does compare to 9 season young padawan.
You mean to get wins over the Heat or Bulls in the playoffs we need Melo to be phenominal? Yes I agree... but Lin is the one getting us there not Melo. Right now Lin is the bread and butter and Melo is the icing.
airchibundo507@ 3/1/2012 5:48 PM
Now that Melo's jumper is finally starting to fall, he is probably going to get more touches and more chances to facilitate the offense. I am starting to see better schemes on offense after only one practice. A few times last game we ran Melo through off-ball screens. A couple of times Melo drew doubles from the block and kicked it out to open teammates; one time it was Lin, who took advantage of the compromised defense by rocketing to the basket for an AND-1.
I think for the most part we have been too Lin dependent (as the game against Miami showed) and that the offense needs to be equal parts Lin and equal parts Melo. The more dynamic an offense, the better. And every championship team needs a post threat.
I can see 18/10 for Lin and 24/5 for Melo, give or take a few points and assists
As long as they both continue to make each other more efficient, this partnership definitely works
JCrusher@ 3/1/2012 5:49 PM
Stevo718 wrote:
Anji wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
Anji wrote:To take the next step the knicks need this guy.........
Ooops, bad iso kobe!!!!!!!!LOL
What can I say, if this coach is smart he will understand that Lin is a sideshow to keep the other guys happy. The main event is getting your best player the ball and punishing teams for letting Kyrie Irving or Ramon Sessions guard Carmelo................... which I saw alot last night but we ran some play that ended with fields or Shumps taking a jump shot.
"Lin is a sideshow" I tell you for a sideshow he seemed like he saved our season. our main event wasn't main eventing anything earlier in the season
Come on dude, Lin is a great find, but if this team goes anywhere it will be because we get Melo back to playing like he was before the injuries. Lin will better when he understand that on the court.
13 games does compare to 9 season young padawan.
You mean to get wins over the Heat or Bulls in the playoffs we need Melo to be phenominal? Yes I agree... but Lin is the one getting us there not Melo. Right now Lin is the bread and butter and Melo is the icing.
I agree the reason we are paying melo a ton of money is to help in the playoffs but lin has gotten us to this point
