Knicks · Would MDA do the unthinkable and replace Lin in the starting lineup with Baron??? (page 1)

ChuckBuck @ 3/2/2012 11:03 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/kn...

Can there be a Knicks point-guard controversy come April if backup Baron Davis continues to rise and Jeremy Lin’s game flattens out? It is no longer a Linsane thought.
Mike D’Antoni has always left open that possibility, and after the second unit’s superior play in the Knicks’ second-half bludgeoning of the Cavaliers in Wednesday's 120-103 win, their starting lineup as March begins could be different when the month ends.
D’Antoni said Wednesday night the second unit dominated the first unit during scrimmages earlier this week. Davis confirmed a friendly rivalry is brewing between the super subs and the star-studded starting unit. That makes the Knicks (18-18) only the most dangerous .500 team in sports since the Giants were 7-7 in December.

ROLE REVERSAL? Baron Davis had his best game with the Knicks on Wednesday, and if he continues to dazzle as a sub, Mike D’Antoni said he would think about making him the starter ofver Jeremy Lin (right).
“That’s our job is to come out and practice and play with that energy and intensity,’’ said Davis, who had eight assists and zero turnovers in 14-plus minutes. “It helps us. We’re not going to play against a better second unit than our first team. Every day in practice we are challenging them and we are kicking their butts.’’
So will D’Antoni look into tinkering with the starting five, even bringing Lin off the bench?
“It could [change],’’ D’Antoni said. “I’m trying to find the right combos. But it’s got to be determined over time. It’s not going to be over one game. Not going to just throw people under the bus for one or two games. Over a length of time, if they prove they need to be out there, they’ll be out there.’’
Having burgeoning 3-point ace Steve Novak replace struggling Amar’e Stoudemire in the starting lineup is politically incorrect. But not as much as if D’Antoni demotes Lin, whose numbers Wednesday were better than his overall effectiveness vs. Cleveland. With a late burst when the Knicks were in command, Lin finished with 19 points, 13 assists and one turnover.
Davis hurt the Cavaliers more than Lin during the Knicks’ second-half comeback with the Fab Five second unit of Novak, Iman Shumpert, J.R. Smith and Jared Jeffries. Their defensive spirit was superior to Carmelo Anthony’s starting group.
“If we’re serious about doing something important in the postseason, everyone has to buy into playing less minutes and playing harder and really stepping up,’’ D’Antoni said.
Stoudemire, a team player, said he just wants the championship ring.
“No, it’s OK,’’ Stoudemire said of facing fewer minutes. “We feel good about that. We feel great about the fact that we can play our second unit. That’s a beautiful thing for us because that’s going to be something that’s very important going down the stretch during the season and on to the playoffs.’’
Novak, who is shooting 49 percent in February, said he’s happy in his bench role.
“No controversy,’’ Novak said. “We know we’re going to go as far as Amar’e goes and Carmelo goes. We need them to be our leaders. Those two and Tyson [Chandler].’’
Lin, a strong candidate to win Player of the Month today for February after leading the Knicks to a 10-3 surge, has shown only minor signs of wearing down. The Knicks want to reduce his minutes to fewer than 35, but keep him as the starter in a perfect world.
One league executive said Lin will hit a rookie wall because this is essentially his rookie season after playing sparingly last year with Golden State. D’Antoni is also looking to temper expectations. In a playoff series vs. Miami, who is to say Davis’ experience won’t be in demand, especially the way Lin looked lost against the Heat trap last week?
“The story is he came from being cut a couple of times, almost being cut by us to leading the team to seven wins and dominate the league for [two] weeks,’’ D’Antoni said. “I think the story now is he can’t dominate the league all year. Nobody does that. To be able to be leader of the Knicks is a great story. Now he’s in a routine where 17-18 points [and] eight, 10, 12, assists, few turnovers and becomes a point guard who will make your team win. He’s doing that. It was a bounce-back [Wednesday] but he only had one blip after being tired from seven [games] in 10 nights and Miami jumped on him.’’
Davis, who has played four games, said his minutes will gradually increase but isn’t ready for more than 15 minutes a night when the Knicks begin their four-game road trip starting in Boston Sunday, before heading to Dallas, San Antonio and Milwaukee.
In December, Davis didn’t know if he’d ever make it to the court, yet was branded as their savior. Now he feels he still can be.
“This gives me a joy knowing I’m building and an added bonus of confidence going into the next game,’’ Davis said. “It’s one of those games getting the monkey off your back. I am part of the team. I know I can do certain things out there to help this team win.”
marc.berman@nypost.com


God I hope not!

airchibundo507 @ 3/2/2012 11:04 AM
no.

/end thread

SlimChin @ 3/2/2012 11:10 AM
can't see him starting—back injuries linger. i can see Baron playing considerable minutes in the playoffs though...
Nalod @ 3/2/2012 11:17 AM
Hack article.

Baron right now is limited to 15 min a game.

If Baron can finish what Lin starts thats fine too.

Has fields had good games with both Amare and melo both playing?

Typical Berman crap.

ITs totally logical if LIn hits a wall and Baron surges he gets the start minutes.

Bonn1997 @ 3/2/2012 11:19 AM
He should be fired with cause if he does this.
franco12 @ 3/2/2012 11:22 AM
MDA would need the secret service guarding him if he did this.
Bonn1997 @ 3/2/2012 11:24 AM
franco12 wrote:MDA would need the secret service guarding him if he did this.

LOL!
misterearl @ 3/2/2012 11:24 AM
Here We Go

Nalod wrote:Hack article.

Typical Berman crap.

Has Marc Berman EVER named the "one league executive" who is his source?

Now that Berman has cited another nameless source, let the Knicks "point guard controversy" and the official start of the pre trade deadline rumor season begin. Hilarious.

Could Berman be talking to Bernie who works in the ticket office?

Howard Beck at the New York Times is rumored to be taking Berman's column inches, and his talents, to South Bronx. Stay tuned.

Nalod @ 3/2/2012 11:38 AM
TripleThreat wrote:No chance.

Lin is worth too much money to the NBA. Right now Lin is the most marketable athlete in the world. Stern has been begging and clawing and fighting to get the NBA as a worldwide brand for a long long time. Lin does that for him. Lin could literally bring a billion new viewers for the NBA if he plays well over the life of his career. He could be worth a billion dollars in value in terms of marketing and merchandising for the NBA over his entire career. More importantly, Lin has high value to the female viewership, a group that Stern has always coveted (not because women love Lin or his looks or basketball, but because most women are slaves to trends and spend towards trends, and Lin is the new hot trend, he's like soccer after the movie Bend It Like Beckham for women, who all rushed to get their daughters into soccer or the huge run on adopting little Chinese girls because Angelina Jolie did it. Lin is a safe marketable trend to women because frankly the gaggle of wannabe part time drug dealing mediocre rap star thug life crybaby divas that the NBA marketed before weren't going to do it)

First, the networks and Dolan would freak out of MDA benched Lin, if he was not hurt. Lin is driving ratings and is literally a printing press for money for Dolan. Then Stern would not like it. Stern yells at Silver, who yells at Stu Jackson, who yells at the head of refs, who yells at his refs. Suddenly Davis shoots two free attempts total every eight games. Then every other team figures out you can hack, beat and punch Davis at will. Lin plays 20 minutes a game and shoots 36 free throw attempts a game. Message is clear, start Lin or you get no calls ever. None. Only Lin will get calls. The refs will grind you into the ground.

And even from a practical sense, Lin is going to be with the Knicks for the next couple of years for sure. Davis could be gone by the end of the season. Also he has a legacy of a malcontent contract year chucker who likes to get fat and dog it when he's pissed off. That's not who you kill a cash cow for.

Davis only starts if Lin is seriously hurt or Lin is embroiled in some type of major scandal ( I doubt he's hanging out in Colorado on his off days)

Good points.

I was thinking Dolan trades Lin in some conviluted starphuch scheme.

You know if Lin was Lin back a few months ago Cp3 would be a knick.

If Lin-Amare can net you Dwight do you do it? Not that Amare's value is super high right now.

Remember, DOlan "ain't right".......He don't think like other people!

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 3/2/2012 11:49 AM
This is the stupidest thing Berman ever wrote.
mrKnickShot @ 3/2/2012 2:07 PM
This thread is a Troll thread if I've ever seen one!
BigDaddyG @ 3/2/2012 2:17 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:This thread is a Troll thread if I've ever seen one!

Slow news day.

mrKnickShot @ 3/2/2012 2:20 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:This thread is a Troll thread if I've ever seen one!

Slow news day.

CAPTION:

By Marc Barphman

MDA CHOOSES BARON OVER LIN CAUSE HE HAS A BIGGER DING DONG!

nixluva @ 3/2/2012 2:25 PM
Lin is basically a bidding Steve Nash!!! Why the heck would he go away from 23yr old future of the franchise PG for 15 min strong Baron? Baron is getting better and that's great for NY, but I wouldn't push him to starter minutes over Lin, who has taken a beating and still performs at the highest level. Lin is MDA's PG now and I don't see him making a change unless Lin just completely fell apart and Baron stepped up to a much higher level and with greater endurance than he's shown so far. MDA is the most loyal coach in the NBA when it comes to guys that have proved themselves. Lin would have to struggle for quite a while before he'd make such a move. Just look at how long he gave TD.
fishmike @ 3/2/2012 2:31 PM
funny thing is Baron is better
upstate @ 3/2/2012 2:35 PM
fishmike wrote:funny thing is Baron is better

Not on defense or on the boards, two keys to winning championships

SupremeCommander @ 3/2/2012 2:37 PM
fishmike wrote:funny thing is Baron is better

Baron has produced at a higher rate. He won't be better after he breaks with heavy minutes though, nad production is not a linear function... I'm hoping Baron is happy with being the PG version of Bill Walton with the Celtics

Bonn1997 @ 3/2/2012 2:37 PM
fishmike wrote:funny thing is Baron is better

at what? Donut eating contests? Keeping orthopedists employed?
mrKnickShot @ 3/2/2012 2:38 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:funny thing is Baron is better

at what? Donut eating contests? Keeping orthopedists employed?

He can spit and piss further

Bonn1997 @ 3/2/2012 2:44 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:funny thing is Baron is better

at what? Donut eating contests? Keeping orthopedists employed?

He can spit and piss further


I'm sure he takes big craps too
SupremeCommander @ 3/2/2012 2:47 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:funny thing is Baron is better

at what? Donut eating contests? Keeping orthopedists employed?

When Baron Davis is firing on all cylinders, he is an elite point guard. The problem is that only happens during a contract year or he's got something to prove (like that he's better than Lin) or when you can see Haley's Comet--and that assumes that he isn't broken

If Baron Davis consistently gave it his all, I think his he would be one of the more celebrated players in the NBA. With the Hornets, during the 2007 playoffs against the Mavs, and how he played with Blake Griffin leap to mind. That guy is AWESOME. The problem is those gaps in between all of that

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