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How come Philly are currently 4th and Orlando 3rd in the standings (and seeded 4th) given that Philly are, and Orlando are not leading their division?

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

markvmc wrote:How come Philly are currently 4th and Orlando 3rd in the standings (and seeded 4th) given that Philly are, and Orlando are not leading their division?

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

It's because Orlando has a better record. The division winners are guaranteed a seed between 1-4, and the team with the next best record is also in that group.

(4)Philly also has a worse record than (5)Indy and (6)Atl, so if the regular season ended today, Philly would play Indy, but would not have home court advantage because of their records.

markvmc wrote:How come Philly are currently 4th and Orlando 3rd in the standings (and seeded 4th) given that Philly are, and Orlando are not leading their division?

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

FeltonandAmare wrote:
sealy wrote:Can someone clarify the seedings for me?
So whoever wins the Atlantic gets a top 4 seed? Based on this assumption, the 3rd and 5th seed could have a better record, but the Knicks would be cemented as the 4 as long as they beat out Boston and Philly.
Is this correct and when was this rule implemented? It's been a while, I guess.
http://www.nba.com/features/seedingprimer07.html

Thanks for the clarification. I had thought the division winners were automatically seeded 1-3.

A positive for us catching the Sixers is that they have only 6 home games left and 11 road games.

Here is an updated version of the Atlantic Div. Schedule for the Knicks, Sixers and now Celtics. It's a really tight race and it's gonna be unreal going down the stretch:


 Atlantic 	W 	L 	Pct 	GB 	Home  	Road  	Div  	Conf  	Streak  L10 
 Philadelphia 	27 	22 	.551 	-- 	17-10 	10-12 	4-3 	20-11 	Lost 1  5-5 
 Boston 	26 	22 	.542 	0.5 	17-8 	9-14 	6-4 	21-12 	Won 1  	6-4 
 New York 	24 	25 	.490 	3.5 	15-10 	9-15 	6-6 	17-15 	Won 1  	6-4

Knicks Sixers Celtics

Wed, Mar 21 @ Philadelphia 76ers W Wed, Mar 21 New York Knicks L
Fri, Mar 23 @ Toronto Raptors L Fri, Mar 23 Boston Celtics L Fri, Mar 23 @ Philadelphia, Sixers W
Sat, Mar 24 Detroit Pistons W
------------------------------------ Sun, Mar 25 @ San Antonio Spurs L Sun, Mar 25 Washington Wizards W
Mon, Mar 26 Milwaukee Bucks -------------------------------------- Mon, Mar 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats
------------------------------------ Tue, Mar 27 Cleveland Cavaliers
Wed, Mar 28 Orlando Magic -------------------------------------- Wed, Mar 28 Utah Jazz
Fri, Mar 30 @ Atlanta Hawks Fri, Mar 30 @ Washington Wizards Fri, Mar 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
Sat, Mar 31 Cleveland Cavaliers Sat, Mar 31 Atlanta Hawks

FeltonandAmare wrote:Our Knicks have a deep, balanced roster that boasts star power as well. The Eastern Conference should be very afraid. 3rd seed is in sight and a first round win despite what the haters are predicting. All it took was for a real coach to get the job and demand ACCOUNTABILITY, something MDA NEVER did. Go Knicks!

I Agree with other poster about catching Philly, a tough but possible task
but knicks aint catching Magic so chat on 3rd Seed is waste-of wind Orlando isnt losing Or < .500 ball rest of way
plus Magic beats Knicks so any tiebreaker won't work

NY can go for 4th and up seed. anything to avoid 7th or 8th
BULLs or HEAT

Knicks wont survive those teams early
Write that in stone, NOT this yr. at least

Small baby steps man
in the big picture of things this season. Lets NY win 1-2 game in playoffs then
we'd take our chances next yr new full season and new coaching concepts.

Knicks 2-3 players away

This is really a great race right now even tho the Knicks are having serious health issues.


 Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Philadelphia4 	27 	22 	0.551 	0.0 	20-11 	4-3 	17-10 	10-12 	5-5 	L 1
Boston7 	27 	22 	0.551 	0.0 	22-12 	6-4 	17-8 	10-14 	6-4 	W 2
New York8 	25 	25 	0.500 	2.5 	18-15 	6-6 	16-10 	9-15 	7-3 	W 2

Knicks Sixers Celtics

Wed, Mar 21 @ Philadelphia 76ers W Wed, Mar 21 New York Knicks L
Fri, Mar 23 @ Toronto Raptors L Fri, Mar 23 Boston Celtics L Fri, Mar 23 @ Philadelphia, Sixers W
Sat, Mar 24 Detroit Pistons W
------------------------------------ Sun, Mar 25 @ San Antonio Spurs L Sun, Mar 25 Washington Wizards W
Mon, Mar 26 Milwaukee Bucks W -------------------------------------- Mon, Mar 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats W
------------------------------------ Tue, Mar 27 Cleveland Cavaliers
Wed, Mar 28 Orlando Magic -------------------------------------- Wed, Mar 28 Utah Jazz
Fri, Mar 30 @ Atlanta Hawks Fri, Mar 30 @ Washington Wizards Fri, Mar 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
Sat, Mar 31 Cleveland Cavaliers Sat, Mar 31 Atlanta Hawks

nix, just because I hate to see Boston given undue credit, they did lose that game in Philly on Friday. But it really is a great race, and hopefully the Knicks can stay above .500 and keep it a respectable one.

Is this a comedy thread?

MaTT4281 wrote:nix, just because I hate to see Boston given undue credit, they did lose that game in Philly on Friday. But it really is a great race, and hopefully the Knicks can stay above .500 and keep it a respectable one.

Thanks for the correction.


 Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Philadelphia4 	27 	22 	0.551 	0.0 	20-11 	4-3 	17-10 	10-12 	5-5 	L 1
Boston7 	27 	22 	0.551 	0.0 	22-12 	6-4 	17-8 	10-14 	6-4 	W 2
New York8 	25 	25 	0.500 	2.5 	18-15 	6-6 	16-10 	9-15 	7-3 	W 2

Knicks Sixers Celtics

Wed, Mar 21 @ Philadelphia 76ers W Wed, Mar 21 New York Knicks L
Fri, Mar 23 @ Toronto Raptors L Fri, Mar 23 Boston Celtics W Fri, Mar 23 @ Philadelphia, Sixers L
Sat, Mar 24 Detroit Pistons W
------------------------------------ Sun, Mar 25 @ San Antonio Spurs L Sun, Mar 25 Washington Wizards W
Mon, Mar 26 Milwaukee Bucks W -------------------------------------- Mon, Mar 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats W
------------------------------------ Tue, Mar 27 Cleveland Cavaliers
Wed, Mar 28 Orlando Magic -------------------------------------- Wed, Mar 28 Utah Jazz
Fri, Mar 30 @ Atlanta Hawks Fri, Mar 30 @ Washington Wizards Fri, Mar 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
Sat, Mar 31 Cleveland Cavaliers Sat, Mar 31 Atlanta Hawks

WOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This thing is close as heck. Knicks are hanging tough despite the injuries. They've risen to the occasion. So here's the entire stretch thru April.


Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Philadelphia4 	28 	22 	0.560 	0.0 	21-11 	4-3 	18-10 	10-12 	5-5 	W 1
Boston7 	28 	22 	0.560 	0.0 	22-12 	6-4 	18-8 	10-14 	7-3 	W 3
New York8 	26 	25 	0.510 	2.5 	19-15 	6-6 	17-10 	9-15 	8-2 	W 3

Knicks Sixers Celtics

Wed, Mar 21 @ Philadelphia 76ers W Wed, Mar 21 New York Knicks L
Fri, Mar 23 @ Toronto Raptors L Fri, Mar 23 Boston Celtics W Fri, Mar 23 @ Philadelphia, Sixers L
Sat, Mar 24 Detroit Pistons W
------------------------------------ Sun, Mar 25 @ San Antonio Spurs L Sun, Mar 25 Washington Wizards W
Mon, Mar 26 Milwaukee Bucks W -------------------------------------- Mon, Mar 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats W
------------------------------------ Tue, Mar 27 Cleveland Cavaliers W
Wed, Mar 28 Orlando Magic W -------------------------------------- Wed, Mar 28 Utah Jazz W
Fri, Mar 30 @ Atlanta Hawks Fri, Mar 30 @ Washington Wizards Fri, Mar 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
Sat, Mar 31 Cleveland Cavaliers Sat, Mar 31 Atlanta Hawks

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, Apr 1 Miami Heat
Tue, Apr 3 @ Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 3 @ Miami Heat
------------------------------------ Wed, Apr 4 Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
Thu, Apr 5 @ Orlando Magic ------------------------------------- Thu, Apr 5 @ Chicago Bulls
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 7 Orlando Magic Sat, Apr 7 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 8 Chicago Bulls Sun, Apr 8 @ Boston Celtics Sun, Apr 8 Philadelphia 76ers
Tue, Apr 10 @ Chicago Bulls Tue, Apr 10 @ New Jersey Nets Tue, Apr 10 @ Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 11 @ Milwaukee Bucks Wed, Apr 11 @ Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 11 Atlanta Hawks
Fri, Apr 13 Washington Wizards Fri, Apr 13 New Jersey Nets Fri, Apr 13 @ Toronto Raptors
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 14 @ New Jersey Nets
Sun, Apr 15 Miami Heat ------------------------------------- Sun, Apr 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 16 @ Orlando Magic
Tue, Apr 17 Boston Celtics Tue, Apr 17 Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 17 @New York Knicks
Wed, Apr 18 @ New Jersey Nets Wed, Apr 18 @ Cleve Cavaliers Wed, Apr 18 Orlando Magic
Fri, Apr 20 @ Cleveland Cavaliers ------------------------------------- Fri, Apr 20 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 21 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 22 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 23 @ New Jersey Nets
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, Apr 24 Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 25 Los Angeles Clippers Wed, Apr 25 @ Milwaukee Bucks
Thu, Apr 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats Thu, Apr 26 @ Detroit Pistons Thu, Apr 26 Milwaukee Bucks

Wow...the Sixers have a much easier schedule than the Knicks and the Celtics.

HugeKnick4 wrote:Wow...the Sixers have a much easier schedule than the Knicks and the Celtics.

This is going to be a tough road to try and catch the Sixers. I do believe we can pass the Celtics, but Philly has a relatively creampuff schedule compared to us. The thing is tho that we're only 2.5 back of them and so Philly can't afford to slip up at all. They have to win and right now the Knicks are playing at a higher level than the Sixers. Last 10 games the Knicks are 8-2 whereas Philly is 5-5.

Pretty much every game is a big game for this team going forward. Tonight is another chance for this team to stay close and possibly pickup some ground in the Atlantic race and of course the playoff race. None of the 3 teams can falter at this point. Sixers and Celtics must keep winning just as much as we do!!! Any slip now can really change things in the Playoff race. All 3 teams are on the road tonight so really it's not automatic for anyone. Tho the Sixers have a really soft opponent in the Wiz. Still trap games do exist for teams late in the season like this.


Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Philadelphia4 	28 	22 	0.560 	0.0 	21-11 	4-3 	18-10 	10-12 	5-5 	W 1
Boston7 	28 	22 	0.560 	0.0 	22-12 	6-4 	18-8 	10-14 	7-3 	W 3
New York8 	26 	25 	0.510 	2.5 	19-15 	6-6 	17-10 	9-15 	8-2 	W 3

Knicks Sixers Celtics

Wed, Mar 21 @ Philadelphia 76ers W Wed, Mar 21 New York Knicks L
Fri, Mar 23 @ Toronto Raptors L Fri, Mar 23 Boston Celtics W Fri, Mar 23 @ Philadelphia, Sixers L
Sat, Mar 24 Detroit Pistons W
------------------------------------ Sun, Mar 25 @ San Antonio Spurs L Sun, Mar 25 Washington Wizards W
Mon, Mar 26 Milwaukee Bucks W -------------------------------------- Mon, Mar 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats W
------------------------------------ Tue, Mar 27 Cleveland Cavaliers W
Wed, Mar 28 Orlando Magic W -------------------------------------- Wed, Mar 28 Utah Jazz W
Fri, Mar 30 @ Atlanta Hawks Fri, Mar 30 @ Washington Wizards Fri, Mar 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
Sat, Mar 31 Cleveland Cavaliers Sat, Mar 31 Atlanta Hawks

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, Apr 1 Miami Heat
Tue, Apr 3 @ Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 3 @ Miami Heat
------------------------------------ Wed, Apr 4 Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
Thu, Apr 5 @ Orlando Magic ------------------------------------- Thu, Apr 5 @ Chicago Bulls
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 7 Orlando Magic Sat, Apr 7 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 8 Chicago Bulls Sun, Apr 8 @ Boston Celtics Sun, Apr 8 Philadelphia 76ers
Tue, Apr 10 @ Chicago Bulls Tue, Apr 10 @ New Jersey Nets Tue, Apr 10 @ Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 11 @ Milwaukee Bucks Wed, Apr 11 @ Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 11 Atlanta Hawks
Fri, Apr 13 Washington Wizards Fri, Apr 13 New Jersey Nets Fri, Apr 13 @ Toronto Raptors
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 14 @ New Jersey Nets
Sun, Apr 15 Miami Heat ------------------------------------- Sun, Apr 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 16 @ Orlando Magic
Tue, Apr 17 Boston Celtics Tue, Apr 17 Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 17 @New York Knicks
Wed, Apr 18 @ New Jersey Nets Wed, Apr 18 @ Cleve Cavaliers Wed, Apr 18 Orlando Magic
Fri, Apr 20 @ Cleveland Cavaliers ------------------------------------- Fri, Apr 20 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 21 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 22 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 23 @ New Jersey Nets
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, Apr 24 Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 25 Los Angeles Clippers Wed, Apr 25 @ Milwaukee Bucks
Thu, Apr 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats Thu, Apr 26 @ Detroit Pistons Thu, Apr 26 Milwaukee Bucks

I think the key will be April 8. If the Knicks can keep the wins coming with out faultering they have a chance at over taking the other two.

yellowboy90 wrote:I think the key will be April 8. If the Knicks can keep the wins coming with out faultering they have a chance at over taking the other two.

In the end it's gonna be about sustaining the effort and tho it sounds simple it's a very hard thing to do. Especially now with many of our key guys out!!! I think they players want it bad, but at what point will their bodies just not respond. I hope they can hold on until we get guys back.

yellowboy90 wrote:I think the key will be April 8. If the Knicks can keep the wins coming with out faultering they have a chance at over taking the other two.

Yeah, man. Two consecutive meaningful games against the bulls? It's like the 90s all over again.

News Flash: Playoffs have already begun.

If the Knicks can get the next two will be huge for Lin since they do not play until Tuesday. ALso another thing to look at is the number of games the other two will play clustered after the 8th. They might have a weaker schedule but they do not have that many breaks especially Boston and that is not good for an older team. Its going to be a wild ride.

yellowboy90 wrote:If the Knicks can get the next two will be huge for Lin since they do not play until Tuesday. ALso another thing to look at is the number of games the other two will play clustered after the 8th. They might have a weaker schedule but they do not have that many breaks especially Boston and that is not good for an older team. Its going to be a wild ride.

Yea that's why i'm so into this final stretch. This is an amazing race here. No way to know what's gonna happen. We do have a few more rest days which we'll need.

Not what we were looking for, but they have to get back on the horse tomorrow!!! They've gotta stay close, cuz this thing isn't over yet. The beginning of April will be the true test for all three teams.


Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Boston4 	29 	22 	0.569 	0.0 	22-12 	6-4 	18-8 	11-14 	7-3 	W 4
Philadelphia7 	28 	23 	0.549 	1.0 	21-12 	4-3 	18-10 	10-13 	4-6 	L 1
New York8 	26 	26 	0.500 	3.5 	19-16 	6-6 	17-10 	9-16 	8-2 	L 1

Knicks Sixers Celtics

Wed, Mar 21 @ Philadelphia 76ers W Wed, Mar 21 New York Knicks L
Fri, Mar 23 @ Toronto Raptors L Fri, Mar 23 Boston Celtics W Fri, Mar 23 @ Philadelphia, Sixers L
Sat, Mar 24 Detroit Pistons W
------------------------------------ Sun, Mar 25 @ San Antonio Spurs L Sun, Mar 25 Washington Wizards W
Mon, Mar 26 Milwaukee Bucks W -------------------------------------- Mon, Mar 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats W
------------------------------------ Tue, Mar 27 Cleveland Cavaliers W
Wed, Mar 28 Orlando Magic W -------------------------------------- Wed, Mar 28 Utah Jazz W
Fri, Mar 30 @ Atlanta Hawks L Fri, Mar 30 @ Washington Wizards L Fri, Mar 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves W
Sat, Mar 31 Cleveland Cavaliers Sat, Mar 31 Atlanta Hawks

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, Apr 1 Miami Heat
Tue, Apr 3 @ Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 3 @ Miami Heat
------------------------------------ Wed, Apr 4 Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
Thu, Apr 5 @ Orlando Magic ------------------------------------- Thu, Apr 5 @ Chicago Bulls
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 7 Orlando Magic Sat, Apr 7 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 8 Chicago Bulls Sun, Apr 8 @ Boston Celtics Sun, Apr 8 Philadelphia 76ers
Tue, Apr 10 @ Chicago Bulls Tue, Apr 10 @ New Jersey Nets Tue, Apr 10 @ Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 11 @ Milwaukee Bucks Wed, Apr 11 @ Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 11 Atlanta Hawks
Fri, Apr 13 Washington Wizards Fri, Apr 13 New Jersey Nets Fri, Apr 13 @ Toronto Raptors
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 14 @ New Jersey Nets
Sun, Apr 15 Miami Heat ------------------------------------- Sun, Apr 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 16 @ Orlando Magic
Tue, Apr 17 Boston Celtics Tue, Apr 17 Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 17 @New York Knicks
Wed, Apr 18 @ New Jersey Nets Wed, Apr 18 @ Cleve Cavaliers Wed, Apr 18 Orlando Magic
Fri, Apr 20 @ Cleveland Cavaliers ------------------------------------- Fri, Apr 20 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 21 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 22 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 23 @ New Jersey Nets
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, Apr 24 Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 25 Los Angeles Clippers Wed, Apr 25 @ Milwaukee Bucks
Thu, Apr 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats Thu, Apr 26 @ Detroit Pistons Thu, Apr 26 Milwaukee Bucks

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