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Not what we were looking for, but they have to get back on the horse tomorrow!!! They've gotta stay close, cuz this thing isn't over yet. The beginning of April will be the true test for all three teams.


Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Boston4 	29 	22 	0.569 	0.0 	22-12 	6-4 	18-8 	11-14 	7-3 	W 4
Philadelphia7 	28 	23 	0.549 	1.0 	21-12 	4-3 	18-10 	10-13 	4-6 	L 1
New York8 	26 	26 	0.500 	3.5 	19-16 	6-6 	17-10 	9-16 	8-2 	L 1

Knicks Sixers Celtics

Wed, Mar 21 @ Philadelphia 76ers W Wed, Mar 21 New York Knicks L
Fri, Mar 23 @ Toronto Raptors L Fri, Mar 23 Boston Celtics W Fri, Mar 23 @ Philadelphia, Sixers L
Sat, Mar 24 Detroit Pistons W
------------------------------------ Sun, Mar 25 @ San Antonio Spurs L Sun, Mar 25 Washington Wizards W
Mon, Mar 26 Milwaukee Bucks W -------------------------------------- Mon, Mar 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats W
------------------------------------ Tue, Mar 27 Cleveland Cavaliers W
Wed, Mar 28 Orlando Magic W -------------------------------------- Wed, Mar 28 Utah Jazz W
Fri, Mar 30 @ Atlanta Hawks L Fri, Mar 30 @ Washington Wizards L Fri, Mar 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves W
Sat, Mar 31 Cleveland Cavaliers Sat, Mar 31 Atlanta Hawks

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, Apr 1 Miami Heat
Tue, Apr 3 @ Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 3 @ Miami Heat
------------------------------------ Wed, Apr 4 Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
Thu, Apr 5 @ Orlando Magic ------------------------------------- Thu, Apr 5 @ Chicago Bulls
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 7 Orlando Magic Sat, Apr 7 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 8 Chicago Bulls Sun, Apr 8 @ Boston Celtics Sun, Apr 8 Philadelphia 76ers
Tue, Apr 10 @ Chicago Bulls Tue, Apr 10 @ New Jersey Nets Tue, Apr 10 @ Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 11 @ Milwaukee Bucks Wed, Apr 11 @ Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 11 Atlanta Hawks
Fri, Apr 13 Washington Wizards Fri, Apr 13 New Jersey Nets Fri, Apr 13 @ Toronto Raptors
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 14 @ New Jersey Nets
Sun, Apr 15 Miami Heat ------------------------------------- Sun, Apr 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 16 @ Orlando Magic
Tue, Apr 17 Boston Celtics Tue, Apr 17 Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 17 @New York Knicks
Wed, Apr 18 @ New Jersey Nets Wed, Apr 18 @ Cleve Cavaliers Wed, Apr 18 Orlando Magic
Fri, Apr 20 @ Cleveland Cavaliers ------------------------------------- Fri, Apr 20 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 21 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 22 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 23 @ New Jersey Nets
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, Apr 24 Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 25 Los Angeles Clippers Wed, Apr 25 @ Milwaukee Bucks
Thu, Apr 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats Thu, Apr 26 @ Detroit Pistons Thu, Apr 26 Milwaukee Bucks

Despite the loss, this race isn't over. Look at the Celtics April Stretch!!! All those bac2bacs so close together and a triple bac2bac.


Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Boston4 	30 	22 	0.577 	0.0 	23-12 	6-4 	19-8 	11-14 	7-3 	W 5
Philadelphia7 	29 	24 	0.547 	1.5 	22-13 	4-3 	19-10 	10-14 	4-6 	L 1
New York8 	27 	27 	0.500 	4.0 	20-17 	6-6 	18-10 	9-17 	7-3 	L 1

Knicks Sixers Celtics

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, Apr 1 Miami Heat W
Tue, Apr 3 @ Indiana Pacers L Tue, Apr 3 @ Miami Heat L
------------------------------------ Wed, Apr 4 Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs
Thu, Apr 5 @ Orlando Magic ------------------------------------- Thu, Apr 5 @ Chicago Bulls
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 7 Orlando Magic Sat, Apr 7 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 8 Chicago Bulls Sun, Apr 8 @ Boston Celtics Sun, Apr 8 Philadelphia 76ers
Tue, Apr 10 @ Chicago Bulls Tue, Apr 10 @ New Jersey Nets Tue, Apr 10 @ Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 11 @ Milwaukee Bucks Wed, Apr 11 @ Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 11 Atlanta Hawks
Fri, Apr 13 Washington Wizards Fri, Apr 13 New Jersey Nets Fri, Apr 13 @ Toronto Raptors
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 14 @ New Jersey Nets
Sun, Apr 15 Miami Heat ------------------------------------- Sun, Apr 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 16 @ Orlando Magic
Tue, Apr 17 Boston Celtics Tue, Apr 17 Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 17 @New York Knicks
Wed, Apr 18 @ New Jersey Nets Wed, Apr 18 @ Cleve Cavaliers Wed, Apr 18 Orlando Magic
Fri, Apr 20 @ Cleveland Cavaliers ------------------------------------- Fri, Apr 20 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 21 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 22 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 23 @ New Jersey Nets
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, Apr 24 Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 25 Los Angeles Clippers Wed, Apr 25 @ Milwaukee Bucks
Thu, Apr 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats Thu, Apr 26 @ Detroit Pistons Thu, Apr 26 Milwaukee Bucks

Dude. Let's just get the 8th seed and take our chances with the Bulls. We have no chance at anything but 8.

MSG3 wrote:Dude. Let's just get the 8th seed and take our chances with the Bulls. We have no chance at anything but 8.

After a loss like tonight it may seem that way, but until they actually fall out of contention for the Atlantic it's still possible. Boston could easily fall back to us over the course of this April stretch. If you look at it, it's a BRUTAL stretch of games and they're gonna be sucking wind at the end of it. Did you see all those bac2bacs and the bac2bac2bac off one day of rest following all those bac2bacs??? This is going to be very interesting. It's not over yet.

nixluva wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Dude. Let's just get the 8th seed and take our chances with the Bulls. We have no chance at anything but 8.
After a loss like tonight it may seem that way, but until they actually fall out of contention for the Atlantic it's still possible. Boston could easily fall back to us over the course of this April stretch. If you look at it, it's a BRUTAL stretch of games and they're gonna be sucking wind at the end of it. Did you see all those bac2bacs and the bac2bac2bac off one day of rest following all those bac2bacs??? This is going to be very interesting. It's not over yet.

How about missing the playoffs? Just as possible, it not probable.

nixluva wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Dude. Let's just get the 8th seed and take our chances with the Bulls. We have no chance at anything but 8.
After a loss like tonight it may seem that way, but until they actually fall out of contention for the Atlantic it's still possible. Boston could easily fall back to us over the course of this April stretch. If you look at it, it's a BRUTAL stretch of games and they're gonna be sucking wind at the end of it. Did you see all those bac2bacs and the bac2bac2bac off one day of rest following all those bac2bacs??? This is going to be very interesting. It's not over yet.

I thought this way to a few weeks ago but Celtics are on fire and Knicks just lost a 15 pt lead in the 4th. Don't think we have any shot at higher than 8. And I pray we get there.

and I rather finish 8th than 7th but would not be surprised if we miss the playoffs and milwaukee gets in. We're depleted and back to trying to play without a pg

9th seed in sight.

Sorry nixluva. This board does not give proper appreciation to your fandomness and your incomparable statistical formatting skills.

Celts playing b2b2b. I smell a Truth injury.
The sicksers have been doing it with smoke and mirrors and Collins' hopes and dreams.

3rd seed could still happen. It could. It's 1999 again, just different.

Can we get some stats about how we'd match up against OKC in the Finals?

HugeKnick4 wrote:9th seed in sight.

I think there's a good chance we finish about 4 - 8 and miss the playoffs.

As i've said despite the Knick Loss, this race is still on. We have some tough games coming up but so do the Sixers and Celtics!!! IT'S NOT OVER!


Atlantic 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
Boston4 	30 	23 	0.566 	0.0 	23-12 	6-4 	19-9 	11-14 	7-3 	L 1
Philadelphia7 	29 	25 	0.537 	1.5 	22-14 	4-4 	19-11 	10-14 	4-6 	L 2
New York8 	27 	27 	0.500 	3.5 	20-17 	6-6 	18-10 	9-17 	7-3 	L 1

Knicks Sixers Celtics

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, Apr 1 Miami Heat W
Tue, Apr 3 @ Indiana Pacers L Tue, Apr 3 @ Miami Heat L
------------------------------------ Wed, Apr 4 Toronto Raptors L Wed, Apr 4 San Antonio Spurs L
Thu, Apr 5 @ Orlando Magic ------------------------------------- Thu, Apr 5 @ Chicago Bulls
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 7 Orlando Magic Sat, Apr 7 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 8 Chicago Bulls Sun, Apr 8 @ Boston Celtics Sun, Apr 8 Philadelphia 76ers
Tue, Apr 10 @ Chicago Bulls Tue, Apr 10 @ New Jersey Nets Tue, Apr 10 @ Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 11 @ Milwaukee Bucks Wed, Apr 11 @ Toronto Raptors Wed, Apr 11 Atlanta Hawks
Fri, Apr 13 Washington Wizards Fri, Apr 13 New Jersey Nets Fri, Apr 13 @ Toronto Raptors
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 14 @ New Jersey Nets
Sun, Apr 15 Miami Heat ------------------------------------- Sun, Apr 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 16 @ Orlando Magic
Tue, Apr 17 Boston Celtics Tue, Apr 17 Indiana Pacers Tue, Apr 17 @New York Knicks
Wed, Apr 18 @ New Jersey Nets Wed, Apr 18 @ Cleve Cavaliers Wed, Apr 18 Orlando Magic
Fri, Apr 20 @ Cleveland Cavaliers ------------------------------------- Fri, Apr 20 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Sat, Apr 21 @ Indiana Pacers
Sun, Apr 22 @ Atlanta Hawks
------------------------------------ Mon, Apr 23 @ New Jersey Nets
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, Apr 24 Miami Heat
Wed, Apr 25 Los Angeles Clippers Wed, Apr 25 @ Milwaukee Bucks
Thu, Apr 26 @ Charlotte Bobcats Thu, Apr 26 @ Detroit Pistons Thu, Apr 26 Milwaukee Bucks

Got to agree here with intent
3rd seed is a longshot

However..
Like Frazier says Knicks gotta get down to GET UP
and seems to rise to challenges of injuries and tough NBA schedules foes,

Knicks can win some tough games and make and seed 3th to 7th a tough spot but they can do it with some help & luck

If they don't grab the division I'd rather them stay at 8. I'm less afraid of Chicago in round 1 than Miami. Pick your poison.

MSG3 wrote:If they don't grab the division I'd rather them stay at 8. I'm less afraid of Chicago in round 1 than Miami. Pick your poison.

yea I hear ya

but teams like BULLs when NYK is on schedule
watch how quick Derrick Rose gets healthy

its like Chicago saying "we aint losing to them guys NY" NO Way

Knicks matchup well with Bulls
but with or without Rose %100 NY isnt still beating bulls even if it went 7game series

I'd love to be wrong on that one

if we were at full strength with Woody coaching we would beat the bulls easily. Wouldn't even be a contest. Now with no Amare and Lin it becomes becomes a bit of a tougher task

gunsnewing wrote:if we were at full strength with Woody coaching we would beat the bulls easily. Wouldn't even be a contest. Now with no Amare and Lin it becomes becomes a bit of a tougher task

I don't know about no contest, but I think we match up well with them at full strength.

I know it's gonna be tough, but as you can see Philly isn't playing lights out BB right now. They're shaky. I know the C's have been winning a lot lately, but they have an absolutely BRUTAL schedule. They lost a tough one tonight and then they play again tomorrow. It just keeps coming like that thru most of April. Bac2Bac following Bac2Bac.

Knicks have it all in their hands IMO. I believe that Philly and Boston will lose some games and the opportunity to move up will be there.

nixluva wrote:I know it's gonna be tough, but as you can see Philly isn't playing lights out BB right now. They're shaky. I know the C's have been winning a lot lately, but they have an absolutely BRUTAL schedule. They lost a tough one tonight and then they play again tomorrow. It just keeps coming like that thru most of April. Bac2Bac following Bac2Bac.
Knicks have it all in their hands IMO. I believe that Philly and Boston will lose some games and the opportunity to move up will be there.

I think you are right about Philly. They seem to be wearing down a bit. The Knicks need to make sure they keep winning.

CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:I know it's gonna be tough, but as you can see Philly isn't playing lights out BB right now. They're shaky. I know the C's have been winning a lot lately, but they have an absolutely BRUTAL schedule. They lost a tough one tonight and then they play again tomorrow. It just keeps coming like that thru most of April. Bac2Bac following Bac2Bac.
Knicks have it all in their hands IMO. I believe that Philly and Boston will lose some games and the opportunity to move up will be there.
I think you are right about Philly. They seem to be wearing down a bit. The Knicks need to make sure they keep winning.

The Knicks will need some luck too, but mostly they just need to win. I really wish we had our guys cuz i'd have no doubt that we'd take the Atlantic. As it is, the team needs Shump and JR to step up and help Melo. We can win some of these tough games if they can help Melo out. It can't be just one guy. They also need to find a way to get Novak more open looks.

Good job, Nix. The Sixers are the team thats wearing down a bit and at best, we may be able to catch them for the 7th spot. The Celts are really playing good ball and it'll be tough to catch them. Keep in mind, we have a tough schedule ourselves. We are going have to win a couple of tough road games to stay in the race.

gunsnewing wrote:if we were at full strength with Woody coaching we would beat the bulls easily. Wouldn't even be a contest. Now with no Amare and Lin it becomes becomes a bit of a tougher task

think you far far far underestimate the BULLs
and the power of Defense which neither Amare nor Lin is good at playing
"Shame on you"

Though I agree matchups are closer with Bulls
to say it's no contest Your crazy or either puffing a pipe

If this was NO contest then Knicks would be 10 game > 500 and that record still wouldnt equate to BULLs stealth record

Fact is BULLs, HEAT and SPURs type teams can shoot 30% and play well enough D to Beat teams like NY

NY D' is much improved under woody but lets not get ahead of ourselves

Knicks need to be consistent to be in same breath as teams I've cited.

The Knicks our knicks are closer to CELTICs in matchups
and ya know what? NY will still lose to Boston in series like it or not for no presence in inside paint post play

That sums it up!

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