mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:tj23 wrote:He's playing like one tonight. SUPERstars do it every night. Melo is an all star...
"There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”
Michael Jordan
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/michael_jordan/
Yeah good point. Tell me which SUPERSTAR won with a team like this POS? With no PG or even worse BD? Please!!
Bryant without Shaq
Oh Gasol? A great coach? And a great supporting cast? You want to compare all those variables to this team and you are being honest here?
So Chandler is a POS? And everyone else on the roster?
Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:tj23 wrote:He's playing like one tonight. SUPERstars do it every night. Melo is an all star...
"There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”
Michael Jordan
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/michael_jordan/
Yeah good point. Tell me which SUPERSTAR won with a team like this POS? With no PG or even worse BD? Please!!
Bryant without Shaq
Oh Gasol? A great coach? And a great supporting cast? You want to compare all those variables to this team and you are being honest here?
So Chandler is a POS? And everyone else on the roster?
As good as Chandler is AND HE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD! You cannot compare him to Gasol's jock strap at the offensive end the way he played for that team.
Who else is a consistent offensive player? NO ONE! They have some moments but please don't compare the two teams because its a joke of a comparison.
mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:tj23 wrote:He's playing like one tonight. SUPERstars do it every night. Melo is an all star...
"There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”
Michael Jordan
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/michael_jordan/
Yeah good point. Tell me which SUPERSTAR won with a team like this POS? With no PG or even worse BD? Please!!
Bryant without Shaq
Oh Gasol? A great coach? And a great supporting cast? You want to compare all those variables to this team and you are being honest here?
So Chandler is a POS? And everyone else on the roster?
As good as Chandler is AND HE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD! You cannot compare him to Gasol's jock strap at the offensive end the way he played for that team.
Who else is a consistent offensive player? NO ONE! They have some moments but please don't compare the two teams because its a joke of a comparison.
You know I could agree with you ...but there is a problem....see when you go 8-1 with Melo sitting on the bench and a PG that averages about 6 TO's per game and Melo comes back and what happened?
I dont care who's on your team. When you're doubled you give up the f'ing ball. I know Melo isn't a natural facilitator but he's supposed to be an elite scorer. And Idk what he's at now but he was at 39% shooting I think at the all star break. That's pathetic.
tj23 wrote:I dont care who's on your team. When you're doubled you give up the f'ing ball. I know Melo isn't a natural facilitator but he's supposed to be an elite scorer. And Idk what he's at now but he was at 39% shooting I think at the all star break. That's pathetic.
Shooting 46 pct for his career. Way to look at this objectively. He obviously dealt with many injuries and a sh1tty coach this year and had a really bad start but whatever.
Melo and JR? We are Denver East. And neither one of these guys met a shot they wouldn't take anytime anywhere.
Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:tj23 wrote:He's playing like one tonight. SUPERstars do it every night. Melo is an all star...
"There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”
Michael Jordan
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/michael_jordan/
Yeah good point. Tell me which SUPERSTAR won with a team like this POS? With no PG or even worse BD? Please!!
Bryant without Shaq
Oh Gasol? A great coach? And a great supporting cast? You want to compare all those variables to this team and you are being honest here?
So Chandler is a POS? And everyone else on the roster?
As good as Chandler is AND HE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD! You cannot compare him to Gasol's jock strap at the offensive end the way he played for that team.
Who else is a consistent offensive player? NO ONE! They have some moments but please don't compare the two teams because its a joke of a comparison.
You know I could agree with you ...but there is a problem....see when you go 8-1 with Melo sitting on the bench and a PG that averages about 6 TO's per game and Melo comes back and what happened?
We fire the POS coach I think and then start playing fukking defense.
mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:tj23 wrote:He's playing like one tonight. SUPERstars do it every night. Melo is an all star...
"There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”
Michael Jordan
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/michael_jordan/
Yeah good point. Tell me which SUPERSTAR won with a team like this POS? With no PG or even worse BD? Please!!
Bryant without Shaq
Oh Gasol? A great coach? And a great supporting cast? You want to compare all those variables to this team and you are being honest here?
So Chandler is a POS? And everyone else on the roster?
As good as Chandler is AND HE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD! You cannot compare him to Gasol's jock strap at the offensive end the way he played for that team.
Who else is a consistent offensive player? NO ONE! They have some moments but please don't compare the two teams because its a joke of a comparison.
You know I could agree with you ...but there is a problem....see when you go 8-1 with Melo sitting on the bench and a PG that averages about 6 TO's per game and Melo comes back and what happened?
We fire the POS coach I think and then start playing fukking defense.
Allow me to correct you then...you go on a losing streak...you fire the coach and then Melo and Stat decide to play defense
Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:tj23 wrote:He's playing like one tonight. SUPERstars do it every night. Melo is an all star...
"There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”
Michael Jordan
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/michael_jordan/
Yeah good point. Tell me which SUPERSTAR won with a team like this POS? With no PG or even worse BD? Please!!
Bryant without Shaq
Oh Gasol? A great coach? And a great supporting cast? You want to compare all those variables to this team and you are being honest here?
So Chandler is a POS? And everyone else on the roster?
As good as Chandler is AND HE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD! You cannot compare him to Gasol's jock strap at the offensive end the way he played for that team.
Who else is a consistent offensive player? NO ONE! They have some moments but please don't compare the two teams because its a joke of a comparison.
You know I could agree with you ...but there is a problem....see when you go 8-1 with Melo sitting on the bench and a PG that averages about 6 TO's per game and Melo comes back and what happened?
We fire the POS coach I think and then start playing fukking defense.
Allow me to correct you then...you go on a losing streak...you fire the coach and then Melo and Stat decide to play defense
Yeah - I like that. That works too. And guess what ... we lost tonight but at least we had some timely time outs tonight. That's already a net positive for me.
39 points on 17 for 31
10 rebounds
3 goes in and out to tie it and you would rather him pass to baron davis!
Timing my friend is way off! I can see that people gave him a hard time when he was struggling but seriously?? C'mon man!
Superstars don't win Championships. Teams do.
Olbrannon wrote:Superstars don't win Championships. Teams do.
Good point. Who's our team?
Baron Davis? SUCKS!
Shumpert? Alot of promise, great defender, cant rely on him offensively other than some spurts at this point. Again, HUGE upside but not yet and not without a PG
JR? HA!
Oh Jorts? Ha Ha!
Fields? Couldn't throw the ball in the ocean if he was sitting on a boat.
TD? Ok maybe you have something there
Chandler = GREAT! but very limited offensively outside of 5 feet. Badly needs a 10-15 foot jumper - PJax will not stand for that if he comes here.
Billy Walker - we miss his timely offensive fouls
Bibby - He was great for us IN THE CIVIL WAR!
JJ - sorely missed - can't score a lick but getting a bit better at not looking SO BAD (like last years playoffs - nice pass MELO)
Novak - great shot but nobody is leaving him opened anymore and we don't have guards to break down the offense enough to get him opened
OUR BEST PLAY AND PRETTY MUCH ONLY PLAY NOW IS ISO MELO! Followed by a TD 3 pointer, followed by a BD fade away from half court while the clock is winding down cause thats as far as he got being that he is so FUKKING FAST!
mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:Superstars don't win Championships. Teams do.
Good point. Who's our team?
Baron Davis? SUCKS!
Shumpert? Alot of promise, great defender, cant rely on him offensively other than some spurts at this point. Again, HUGE upside but not yet and not without a PG
JR? HA!
Oh Jorts? Ha Ha!
Fields? Couldn't throw the ball in the ocean if he was sitting on a boat.
TD? Ok maybe you have something there
Chandler = GREAT! but very limited offensively outside of 5 feet. Badly needs a 10-15 foot jumper - PJax will not stand for that if he comes here.
Billy Walker - we miss his timely offensive fouls
Bibby - He was great for us IN THE CIVIL WAR!
JJ - sorely missed - can't score a lick but getting a bit better at not looking SO BAD (like last years playoffs - nice pass MELO)
Novak - great shot but nobody is leaving him opened anymore and we don't have guards to break down the offense enough to get him opened
OUR BEST PLAY AND PRETTY MUCH ONLY PLAY NOW IS ISO MELO! Followed by a TD 3 pointer, followed by a BD fade away from half court while the clock is winding down cause thats as far as he got being that he is so FUKKING FAST!
Lin seemed to do well with a bunch of so called "bums"
mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:Superstars don't win Championships. Teams do.
Good point. Who's our team?
Baron Davis? SUCKS!
Shumpert? Alot of promise, great defender, cant rely on him offensively other than some spurts at this point. Again, HUGE upside but not yet and not without a PG
JR? HA!
Oh Jorts? Ha Ha!
Fields? Couldn't throw the ball in the ocean if he was sitting on a boat.
TD? Ok maybe you have something there
Chandler = GREAT! but very limited offensively outside of 5 feet. Badly needs a 10-15 foot jumper - PJax will not stand for that if he comes here.
Billy Walker - we miss his timely offensive fouls
Bibby - He was great for us IN THE CIVIL WAR!
JJ - sorely missed - can't score a lick but getting a bit better at not looking SO BAD (like last years playoffs - nice pass MELO)
Novak - great shot but nobody is leaving him opened anymore and we don't have guards to break down the offense enough to get him opened
OUR BEST PLAY AND PRETTY MUCH ONLY PLAY NOW IS ISO MELO! Followed by a TD 3 pointer, followed by a BD fade away from half court while the clock is winding down cause thats as far as he got being that he is so FUKKING FAST!
Baron is hurt and playing on heart alone.
Shumpert was my choice for the best value in the draft
JR?? See the look off sunday when he should have passed to Melo
Jorts? Love wha he brings.
Fields? Love the way he plays most nights. He does all the little things. and has a great BBall IQ
TD...I'm biased. No comment
Chandler? I'd rather have his defense than Gasol's offense. Great team player that makes those around him better.
JJ. The most underrated player in the NBA
Novak. You have to guard him so he is no liability
It's not really about who can do what or how many points or double doubles you can record. It's about wins.
Melo had all those great stats you noted above...bottom line we still lost.
Olbrannon wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Olbrannon wrote:Superstars don't win Championships. Teams do.
Good point. Who's our team?
Baron Davis? SUCKS!
Shumpert? Alot of promise, great defender, cant rely on him offensively other than some spurts at this point. Again, HUGE upside but not yet and not without a PG
JR? HA!
Oh Jorts? Ha Ha!
Fields? Couldn't throw the ball in the ocean if he was sitting on a boat.
TD? Ok maybe you have something there
Chandler = GREAT! but very limited offensively outside of 5 feet. Badly needs a 10-15 foot jumper - PJax will not stand for that if he comes here.
Billy Walker - we miss his timely offensive fouls
Bibby - He was great for us IN THE CIVIL WAR!
JJ - sorely missed - can't score a lick but getting a bit better at not looking SO BAD (like last years playoffs - nice pass MELO)
Novak - great shot but nobody is leaving him opened anymore and we don't have guards to break down the offense enough to get him opened
OUR BEST PLAY AND PRETTY MUCH ONLY PLAY NOW IS ISO MELO! Followed by a TD 3 pointer, followed by a BD fade away from half court while the clock is winding down cause thats as far as he got being that he is so FUKKING FAST!
Baron is hurt and playing on heart alone.
Shumpert was my choice for the best value in the draft
JR?? See the look off sunday when he should have passed to Melo
Jorts? Love wha he brings.
Fields? Love the way he plays most nights. He does all the little things. and has a great BBall IQ
TD...I'm biased. No comment
Chandler? I'd rather have his defense than Gasol's offense. Great team player that makes those around him better.
JJ. The most underrated player in the NBA
Novak. You have to guard him so he is no liability
It's not really about who can do what or how many points or double doubles you can record. It's about wins.
Melo had all those great stats you noted above...bottom line we still lost.
Yeah - sounds like a championship team to me. replace Kobe with Melo and that should do it.
Yeah resort to sarcasm...that will win the argument for you.
I'd be willing to do that Melo for Kobe. Right now.
Olbrannon wrote:Yeah resort to sarcasm...that will win the argument for you. I'd be willing to do that Melo for Kobe. Right now.
yeah me too. but that won't help our pain. I want Jordan.
SlimChin wrote:Uh we lost...
Yea but he put up Superstar Numbers!
This is a win in my book.
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:SlimChin wrote:Uh we lost...
Yea but he put up Superstar Numbers!
This is a win in my book.
I respect you for being fair and balanced (today 
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mrKnickShot wrote:tj23 wrote:What do his teammates have to do with his horrific shot % before he hit this good stretch? Or his unwillingness to give up the ball when double teamed against Boston in the playoffs? Or just the fact that he wasn't playing as hard for D'Antoni?
Haha - that pretty funny? Give up the ball to WHOM in the playoffs if I may ask?? Jared Jefferies? Uh ... that worked out great. 26 points and 10 rebounds per game with zero supporting cast.
This is a common misunderstanding. Even the best players in the league make a lower percentage of their contested shots than mediocre players do of their layups and shots near the rim. For anyone in the NBA (maybe except Jared Jeffries!), you're better off trying to create an easy shot first and shooting a contested shot only if the shot-clock is winding down and nothing better is available.
