gunsnewing wrote:gunsnewing wrote:gunsnewing wrote:gunsnewing wrote:gunsnewing wrote:franco12 wrote:Just say NO!He's put up nice numbers, but I don't think he is a winner.
The off the court distractions would be huge- we just don't need that.
Didnt he win a few tiles in LA
Didn't he win a few titles in LA?
Didn't he win a few titles in LA?
Didn't he win a few titles in LA?
Didn't he win a few titles in LA?
Didn't he win a few titles in LA?
Oh and by the time amare comes of the books Lin & Shump will be superstars to go along woth Melo & tyson
BoBo10 wrote:Didn't he win a few titles in LA?
He was fortunate enough to be in that situation and reap the benefits. Yup.
After the crap he pulled in Dallas, that's a big hell no. He's a lot like Melo and Marbury in that if the right circumstances don't present themselves, he quits. I am starting to want to put Dwight Howard on that list too.
gunsnewing wrote:Oh and by the time amare comes of the books Lin & Shump will be superstars to go along woth Melo & tyson
lol
JamesKPolk wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Oh and by the time amare comes of the books Lin & Shump will be superstars to go along woth Melo & tyson
lol
laugh now cry later
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:JohnStarksFan wrote:gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row. Odom comes cheap
You sound like what brought us:
Glen Rice
Vin Baker
Penny Hardaway
Jalen Rose
Antonio McDyess
Eddie House
Tracy McGrady
Baron Davis
--all at the wrong time when they were too old.
Just leave Odom alone. Spend the money to get someone 8 years younger with real value and upside. That's all I'm saying. None of those other signings worked out.
You are not taking their contracts into account. Name as many players as you like other than Baron whi was damaged goods whuch one of those guys were acquired for the vet min? You guys areissing the point. We arent bringing in the odom of 5yrs ago. We are adding a veteran to tbe bench that knows how to play and compliments chandler, amare & melo. He is easily the best passer and rebounder & is second defensively only to Tyson and thats arguable
At $3 mil a year Odom might be an outstanding deal. If we didn't have all our money tied up on you know who, we'd have the potential to get several steals. I'd love to have the ability to add Lin, Fields, Odom, and some other potential great bargains. But we don't. We have to pick one. I'm not convinced that Odom is *the* best choice.
So who us your choice or choices?
I'd have to look into it more closely but I think Fields and Novak are excellent buys. For the vet min, I think Bibby is a very good buy. I didn't follow other teams as closely as the Knicks or as I would if I didn't have a day job!
gunsnewing wrote:Oh and by the time amare comes of the books Lin & Shump will be superstars to go along woth Melo & tyson
No way Shump is on the team in 20 months. We know what Dolan does with players on rookie contracts.
Do it. It's a worthwhile risk. I would first confirm that he's been getting in shape though.
As long as we don't have to give him part of the MLE then yes. We're talking about a guy who's 6'10" or 6'11" who can play all three front court positions, can guard all five positions, can handle the rock, can shoot from range, and would probably be our best rebounder.
VCoug wrote:As long as we don't have to give him part of the MLE then yes. We're talking about a guy who's 6'10" or 6'11" who can play all three front court positions, can guard all five positions, can handle the rock, can shoot from range, and would probably be our best rebounder.
I don't see how we can get him without using the MLE. Surely some team will give a significant portion of the MLE for him.
Bonn1997 wrote:VCoug wrote:As long as we don't have to give him part of the MLE then yes. We're talking about a guy who's 6'10" or 6'11" who can play all three front court positions, can guard all five positions, can handle the rock, can shoot from range, and would probably be our best rebounder.
I don't see how we can get him without using the MLE. Surely some team will give a significant portion of the MLE for him.
Well, he's shown in the past that he's willing to take less money to play where he wants. His last contract he signed with the Lakers was way below market value, so that's what I'm hoping for.
VCoug wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:VCoug wrote:As long as we don't have to give him part of the MLE then yes. We're talking about a guy who's 6'10" or 6'11" who can play all three front court positions, can guard all five positions, can handle the rock, can shoot from range, and would probably be our best rebounder.
I don't see how we can get him without using the MLE. Surely some team will give a significant portion of the MLE for him.
Well, he's shown in the past that he's willing to take less money to play where he wants. His last contract he signed with the Lakers was way below market value, so that's what I'm hoping for.
Well his stock is at an all time low right now. If his mind is right, and he's in shape, I don't see how this could be a bad thing especially as a bench guy for the vet minimum price.
For the minimum you take Odom. For the MLE you pass.
Better off giving the MLE to a guy like Antwan Jamison.
He just wants to come here so him and his wife can make a tv show here. Why you think La La was so anxious to get Melo out of Denver? So they could BOTH get paid.
ShellTopAdidas wrote:He just wants to come here so him and his wife can make a tv show here. Why you think La La was so anxious to get Melo out of Denver? So they could BOTH get paid.
I don't believe that at all. There's nothing in Odom's history to suggest this to be true. This is a guy who's taken less money because he wants to live near the beach.
AnubisADL wrote:For the minimum you take Odom. For the MLE you pass.Better off giving the MLE to a guy like Antwan Jamison.
Another lost couple million. YOUTH! We need YOUTH! As Melo, Stat, Chandler go through the next year they need to be the vet leaders. If this is the 3 we go with, let them be the vets, like Pierce, Allen, Garnett, or Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. Surround them with young talent, then when the mix is right, throw in the veteran garnish, like Spurs did with Jackson and Diaw.
JohnStarksFan wrote:AnubisADL wrote:For the minimum you take Odom. For the MLE you pass.Better off giving the MLE to a guy like Antwan Jamison.
Another lost couple million. YOUTH! We need YOUTH! As Melo, Stat, Chandler go through the next year they need to be the vet leaders. If this is the 3 we go with, let them be the vets, like Pierce, Allen, Garnett, or Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. Surround them with young talent, then when the mix is right, throw in the veteran garnish, like Spurs did with Jackson and Diaw.
Most young talent is restricted.
The MLE isnt going to get the Mayo's this off season.
Might and I mean might get Nick Young but I doubt it.
AnubisADL wrote:JohnStarksFan wrote:AnubisADL wrote:For the minimum you take Odom. For the MLE you pass.Better off giving the MLE to a guy like Antwan Jamison.
Another lost couple million. YOUTH! We need YOUTH! As Melo, Stat, Chandler go through the next year they need to be the vet leaders. If this is the 3 we go with, let them be the vets, like Pierce, Allen, Garnett, or Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. Surround them with young talent, then when the mix is right, throw in the veteran garnish, like Spurs did with Jackson and Diaw.
Most young talent is restricted.
The MLE isnt going to get the Mayo's this off season.
Might and I mean might get Nick Young but I doubt it.
You would think so but that's just not true.
Unrestricted FA examples 25 or younger with 11-12 salary:
Ian Mahinmi - 25 - 0.9 Mil
Lavoy Allen - 23 - 0.5 Mil
Earl Clark - 24 - 1.2 Mil (Player Option)
David Ebanks - 22 - 0.8 Mil
Danny Green - 24 - 0.9 Mil
Alonzo Gee - 24 - 0.9 Mil
Jodie Meeks - 24 - 0.9 Mil
Patty Mills - 23 - 0.3 Mil
**Ryan Hollins - 27 - 0.3 Mil <--- Adding because I want this guy in a Knicks uniform
JohnStarksFan wrote:AnubisADL wrote:For the minimum you take Odom. For the MLE you pass.Better off giving the MLE to a guy like Antwan Jamison.
Another lost couple million. YOUTH! We need YOUTH! As Melo, Stat, Chandler go through the next year they need to be the vet leaders. If this is the 3 we go with, let them be the vets, like Pierce, Allen, Garnett, or Duncan, Parker, Ginobli. Surround them with young talent, then when the mix is right, throw in the veteran garnish, like Spurs did with Jackson and Diaw.
Who cares about youth? We need to talent more than anything. And it's not like Odom is geriatric or something, he's only 32.
I don't want anything that has to do with the Kardashians. No way I am cheering for him.
