Knicks · Hahahahahaha Nets are finished (page 1)

gunsnewing @ 5/30/2012 8:20 PM
Their #6 pick goes to the Blazers hahahahahaha. Gerald Wallace trade goes down as the worst in history!
gunsnewing @ 5/30/2012 8:23 PM
Hornets pickin first. Owned by the nba. New Orleans not far from Kentucky hmmmmm
ChuckBuck @ 5/30/2012 8:24 PM

CrushAlot @ 5/30/2012 9:06 PM
Billy King had a wealth of assets and made some extremely risky moves. The Melo situation, and thenHoward's situation have hung over their franchise for the past two seasons. Now if they lose Williams, they gave up a ton and never even made the playoffs.
AnubisADL @ 5/30/2012 9:09 PM
Nets arent finished they still have cap space.
gunsnewing @ 5/30/2012 9:12 PM
Who exactly are they bringing in to team up with gerald wallace with "cap space"
CrushAlot @ 5/30/2012 9:23 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Nets arent finished they still have cap space.
They have been in good shape cap wise for several years. They also used to have a stockpile of draft picks. They tried to make some moves, gave up a lot of assets and now are left with cap space. I don't think any big name free agent is going to Brooklyn if D-Will leaves. And this year some of the lesser guys may have better options. I don't see them having two stars or making the playoffs next year.
AnubisADL @ 5/30/2012 10:52 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Nets arent finished they still have cap space.
They have been in good shape cap wise for several years. They also used to have a stockpile of draft picks. They tried to make some moves, gave up a lot of assets and now are left with cap space. I don't think any big name free agent is going to Brooklyn if D-Will leaves. And this year some of the lesser guys may have better options. I don't see them having two stars or making the playoffs next year.

The swamp isnt Brooklyn.

CrushAlot @ 5/30/2012 11:09 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Nets arent finished they still have cap space.
They have been in good shape cap wise for several years. They also used to have a stockpile of draft picks. They tried to make some moves, gave up a lot of assets and now are left with cap space. I don't think any big name free agent is going to Brooklyn if D-Will leaves. And this year some of the lesser guys may have better options. I don't see them having two stars or making the playoffs next year.

The swamp isnt Brooklyn.

Yeah but guys were never flocking to play for the Clips. That might change with Blake and Paul but geography is overrated unless there isn't a state income tax.
OasisBU @ 5/30/2012 11:35 PM
In Brooklyn you have NYC tax, might as well play in Manhattan.
Papabear @ 5/31/2012 12:20 AM
OasisBU wrote:In Brooklyn you have NYC tax, might as well play in Manhattan.

Papabear Says

They need to do a sign and trade with Amare for Williams and at least they will draw some people to New York and then we trade Chandler and another one of our players for Howard and that will give us Howard and Williams.

IrishKnickFan @ 5/31/2012 12:47 AM
Papabear wrote:
OasisBU wrote:In Brooklyn you have NYC tax, might as well play in Manhattan.

Papabear Says

They need to do a sign and trade with Amare for Williams and at least they will draw some people to New York and then we trade Chandler and another one of our players for Howard and that will give us Howard and Williams.

got anymore weed?
blackisblack @ 5/31/2012 5:46 AM
I wouldn't be so happy for now. It's not like NYK is in any better position now.
Anji @ 5/31/2012 7:05 AM
I saw this early this morning and it made me laugh.


Few hours later and it still makes me laugh.


HAHAHAHA the Nets are finished!!!!!!!!!

GustavBahler @ 5/31/2012 7:15 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Hornets pickin first. Owned by the nba. New Orleans not far from Kentucky hmmmmm


good article from Wojo...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-s-...

NBA's problematic ownership of Hornets opens door to talk of rigged draft lottery
By Adrian Wojnarowski | Yahoo! Sports

MIAMI – This was the fitting end to one of the darkest, most unseemly episodes in the history of the NBA, the perfect punctuation on the commissioner's manipulation of the sale and salvation of a lost franchise.

The New Orleans Hornets won the draft lottery and get to pick one of the most transcendent prospects in years, Kentucky's Anthony Davis. The NBA-owned New Orleans Hornets, with a 13.7 percent chance, won the lottery. For over a year, David Stern pushed hard to get maximum value for his owners on the re-sale of the Hornets, and Tom Benson gave Stern an asking price and an assurance the franchise wouldn't leave New Orleans.

"It's such a joke that the league made the new owners be at the lottery for the show," one high-ranking team executive told Yahoo! Sports. "The league still owns the Hornets. Ask their front office if new owners can make a trade right now. They can't. This is a joke."

Hornets coach Monty Williams represented the franchise at the draft lottery. (AP)The reaction of several league executives was part disgust, part resignation on Wednesday night. So many had predicted this happening, so many suspected that somehow, someway, the Hornets would walk away with Davis. That's the worst part for the NBA; these aren't the railings from the guy sitting at the corner tavern, but the belief of those working within the machinery that something undue happened here, that they suspect it happens all the time under Stern.

There's no proof, and there will never be proof. Yet, there's an appearance of impropriety – always an appearance – that marches arm-and-arm with Stern into the twilight of his commissionership, marches right out the door with him.

In New Orleans this season, everyone followed orders. The Hornets feared crossing Stern could cost them not only jobs with the Hornets, but futures in the NBA. They ate that trade for Chris Paul to the Lakers, and dutifully sold the commissioner's story that it was never agreed upon, never completed. The Hornets played Darryl Watkins, Jerome Dyson and Lance Thomas 41-plus minutes in the final game of the season in an 84-77 loss to Houston. They played them until the Hornets bottomed out with six points in the fourth quarter of the loss that left them at 21-45 for the season.

"I bet I could get my owner to tank if I knew the chance of getting the No. 1 pick was 100 percent," an NBA team president said in an email.

Perhaps this is too harsh, but it's how rivals feel; a lot of them. They're suspicious, dubious, and the Hornets' winning the lottery fed all of that in an immense way. Monty Williams had the Hornets playing hard for so much of the season, making the most out of so little. They weren't designed to win 21 games in that shortened schedule, and that's a credit to Williams, one of the NBA's fine young coaches.

This is the problem for Stern, and will always be: Within his own league, they're dubious about him, his underlings, about the centralized power structure in New York. Stern created the mayhem of the Hornets season – the vetoed Paul trade that disrupted the operations and balance of several teams – and the fallout never relented. Here comes Tom Benson now, whose NFL organization is mired in one of the great institutional scandals in pro sports history, walking into New York for the draft lottery with a bad team, in a bad arena, and leaving with a franchise star.

Yes, the Hornets are staying in New Orleans, and that's wonderful news for the people there, for the NBA. All around the league, though, everyone will forever wonder: At what cost?

GustavBahler @ 5/31/2012 7:19 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Billy King had a wealth of assets and made some extremely risky moves. The Melo situation, and thenHoward's situation have hung over their franchise for the past two seasons. Now if they lose Williams, they gave up a ton and never even made the playoffs.

I know King put together a decent team in philly by the time he left, but I was glad he came nowhere near the Knicks.

Nalod @ 5/31/2012 7:20 AM
The odds of the Bobcats were the best.

At 25% chance!

That means they had a 75% chance of not getting it.

Every team has a representative in the room when they get the balls to fly and land.

Is it rigged? I don't know but the way the balls fly few teams with the worst record get the top pick.

Rule is simple: "Don't tank"!

MattSuspect @ 5/31/2012 8:29 AM
Yup, this is just a case of even smart businessmen not understanding probability and statistics, and the media trying to make us believe that David Stern is some evil (and stupid) business villain.
GustavBahler @ 5/31/2012 8:56 AM
MattSuspect wrote:Yup, this is just a case of even smart businessmen not understanding probability and statistics, and the media trying to make us believe that David Stern is some evil (and stupid) business villain.

Once they put the lottery process behind closed doors they invited suspicion. Some guy from Ernst & Young declaring the lottery to be fair doesn't make me feel better. Arthur Andersen performed the same function for Enron. If this were the only incident that made people scratch their heads I would see your point.

Worst refs in sports who almost always seem to come down on the side of the team who would bring in the higher ratings, its not like this isn't the first time people have wondered what the hell is going on with the NBA. I didn't expect the Bobcats to get it because the worst team usually doesn't win, just seems too tidy.

martin @ 5/31/2012 9:13 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
MattSuspect wrote:Yup, this is just a case of even smart businessmen not understanding probability and statistics, and the media trying to make us believe that David Stern is some evil (and stupid) business villain.

Once they put the lottery process behind closed doors they invited suspicion. Some guy from Ernst & Young declaring the lottery to be fair doesn't make me feel better. Arthur Andersen performed the same function for Enron. If this were the only incident that made people scratch their heads I would see your point.

Worst refs in sports who almost always seem to come down on the side of the team who would bring in the higher ratings, its not like this isn't the first time people have wondered what the hell is going on with the NBA. I didn't expect the Bobcats to get it because the worst team usually doesn't win, just seems too tidy.

they did put it behind closed doors but isn't a representative from each team also behind that closed door with E&Y?

VCoug @ 5/31/2012 9:26 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Their #6 pick goes to the Blazers hahahahahaha. Gerald Wallace trade goes down as the worst in history!

We traded LaMarcus Aldridge and Joakim Noah for Eddy Curry. We also traded Nene and Marcus Camby for a broken down Antonion McDyess. We also traded Patrick Ewing and his expiring contract for a washed-up Glen Rice and a bunch of terrible, long-term contracts. Hell, this isn't even the worst move the Nets have mad, they're almost certainly going to lose Deron Williams to free agency; they'll have traded Derrick Favors and two(?) first rounders to rent Deron Williams for a season and a half.

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