Knicks · Top 10 lottery picks 2012 (page 1)

#1 Davis--but don't think he is in the same category as Tim Duncan
#2 Kendall Marshall---just started to show what he is and what he is capable of late in the season with great size at the PG.
#3 Andre Drummond--He's not the best player at 3 now--but I saw what he can do and that is more than anyone else who is left by far--in fact I think this is the tier one end
#4 Austin Rivers--Duke relied on him too much and played him heavy minutes for a freshmen. Nevertheless an NBA team needs to transition him to full time point--he has pedigree and genes--and 6-4 PGs dont fall out of trees.
#5 Jeremy Lamb--just touching his potential when he gets stronger and shot becomes softer--watch out. Not a star but all star caliber.
#6 Moe Harkless--for as much hype as MKG and Harrison Barnes get--this is the best SF prospect in the draft
#7 Meyers Leonard--long athletic big center with rare combination of athletic ability length and touch. BIG upside as he gains strength
#8 Thomas Robinson--strong athletic PF who has explosion at the rim--a bit undersized and it showed late in the season against better players.
#9 Jared Cunningham---elite level athlete who can transition to PG with nice handle good form on shot gets to the line good passer rebounder
#10 Royce White--legit triple threat with great body enormous hands and great handle for his size(his mental make up is a question

no mkg or beal in the top 10?

Austin Rivers is not a point guard. Seen since H.S. he is just an undersized two. Brad Beal is better.

yellowboy90 wrote:Austin Rivers is not a point guard. Seen since H.S. he is just an undersized two. Brad Beal is better.

Beal was the one player I struggled with keeping out--if I had pick 11 it would be him. Hes going to be a really good player---I could make a case for him going as high as number 2. I'm not in love with taking SG's that high in the draft--but in terms of pure talent--hes top 5.

Im not big on Harrison Barnes or MKG but Beal is the one guy who is legit. It was close between him and Lamb for pick 5 then I just went big---but Im a fan--hes a really good player --I would NOT be surprised if he ended up a top 3 pick in this draft.

I'm a St. John's fan and I would take MKG and Barnes over Mo. I do think Mo has upside tho. Drummond has the potential to be better than Davis. Uconn was trainwreck this season and it hurt Drummond's development. Fab Melo is a project and I would not draft him 10. Melo impact had a lot to do with Syracuse's matchup zone. It will take him time to acclimate to NBA level defenses. Austin Rivers is the second coming of Jamal Crawford. He'll be good, but don't expect him to be a star and don't be disappointed if he never develops into a full-time point guard.
Also, I think Perry Jones as to be on the top 10 on most lists if your grading on potential. His motor is questionable, but the dude has the potential to be a beast at at the next level.

Gilchrisrt?

Nalod wrote:Gilchrisrt?

Was saying the same thing. How in the world is Michael Kidd-Gilchrist omitted?

Besides the hitch and slow release on his jumper(fixable), has all the physical tools and played for the pre-NBA (Kentucky). MKG's game reminds me of Evan Turner.

some have him going at no. 2 before the lottery yesterday.

I don't do draft predictions.

Im not saying thats what bobcats do.

Jordan should leave the country before the draft. Me thinks he drafts guys he knows he can still beat in a pick up game.

Adam Morrison???? Really?

Nalod wrote:some have him going at no. 2 before the lottery yesterday.

I don't do draft predictions.

Im not saying thats what bobcats do.

Jordan should leave the country before the draft. Me thinks he drafts guys he knows he can still beat in a pick up game.

Adam Morrison???? Really?

Can't believe he was the 3rd overall pick and now barely sticking around the NBA. That MJ (Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison)really knows how to pick 'em!

That what he looks like now?

Now he is interesting! Hope he sticks with Brooklyn and fulfil his potential!

I predict ALOT of busts in this draft.

Nalod wrote:Gilchrisrt?

I dont think he is worthy of a top 10 pick. Will he get picked top 10--yes but hes not as good as Kawhi Leonard who went just out of lotto last year.

yellowboy90 wrote:Austin Rivers is not a point guard. Seen since H.S. he is just an undersized two. Brad Beal is better.

Thats what they said about Jeremy lin. I dont like Austin Rivers as a 2 guard--but he is a top 5 pick as a PG.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:some have him going at no. 2 before the lottery yesterday.

I don't do draft predictions.

Im not saying thats what bobcats do.

Jordan should leave the country before the draft. Me thinks he drafts guys he knows he can still beat in a pick up game.

Adam Morrison???? Really?

Can't believe he was the 3rd overall pick and now barely sticking around the NBA. That MJ (Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison)really knows how to pick 'em!

Thought he might turn out to be at least a decent spot up shooter, not a total bust. Couldn't of predicted that haircut, Damn!

If I were in the top ten but outside the top three, Royce White and Thomas Robinson would interest the hell out of me if I already had my number one option offensively.

@BRIGGS. - Kendall Marshall?!?!?...Im a fan of most lefty PGs (please see posts referring to "we must sign the dragon - G. Dragic) and also i was a lefty PG myself..

anyways, VERY overrated here at #2...even though hes a gifted passer, hes slow and a streaky shooter..i think he did well only because he was around other great players...he reminds me of that UConn PG (williams, the one who played with Rudy Gay and stole laptops)

but i do agree...rivers is a devon harris 2.0 edition...moe harkless is a steal...lamb might be the best player you mentioned after two years...(after he hits puberty)

the draft is weak and keeps getting weaker year after year...thats why im not mad that the knicks DONT have a 1st rd draft pick

ChuckBuck wrote:

That guy and Brooklyn are in love. He just needs some tattoos and a headband and he's the hipster posterballer.

callmened wrote:the draft is weak and keeps getting weaker year after year...thats why im not mad that the knicks DONT have a 1st rd draft pick

Forget that. I'm not happy about it. I had no clue who Iman Shumpert was, but I'll never forget that name now. I wish we had a 1st rounder for sure.
Maybe if we didn't give it to Houston ages ago for Tracy McGrady I might be able to live with it.

BRIGGS wrote:#1 Davis--but don't think he is in the same category as Tim Duncan
#2 Kendall Marshall---just started to show what he is and what he is capable of late in the season with great size at the PG.
#3 Andre Drummond--He's not the best player at 3 now--but I saw what he can do and that is more than anyone else who is left by far--in fact I think this is the tier one end
#4 Austin Rivers--Duke relied on him too much and played him heavy minutes for a freshmen. Nevertheless an NBA team needs to transition him to full time point--he has pedigree and genes--and 6-4 PGs dont fall out of trees.
#5 Jeremy Lamb--just touching his potential when he gets stronger and shot becomes softer--watch out. Not a star but all star caliber.
#6 Moe Harkless--for as much hype as MKG and Harrison Barnes get--this is the best SF prospect in the draft
#7 Royce White--legit triple threat with great body enormous hands and great handle for his size(his mental make up is a question)
#8 Thomas Robinson--strong athletic PF who has explosion at the rim--a bit undersized and it showed late in the season against better players.
#9 Fab Melo---simply when he played Syracuse did not lose. He's got some red flags starting with his head--but at a legit 7 260 with his defensive skills impossible to ignore in this weak class.
#10 Tyler Zeller--best combo C-PF in the draft--has great touch could use 5-10 more pds of muscle but legit top 10 in a weak draft.

I don't even think half of those players will go in the top 10 !?

This draft class is horribly weak. I'm honestly almost happy we dont have a pick. No player in this draft really seems to have an all around game.
Davis is still pretty raw but I do like him.

Drummond doesn't have good touch around the basket and has awful shot selection. Plus he's top heavy with stiff hips.

Rivers isn't a true point but he could be a Stephen Curry type.

Kidd Gilchrist is a great athlete but he doesn't have the handle or the shot to be a successful scorer. I'd say he's similar to a Trevor Ariza.

K Marshall has nice pg skills but not athletic enough and has very little scoring ability. I prefer true PG's but he might not be talented enough.

Teague might be the better PG overall. Lilard might just be a scoring guard off the bench.

Barnes has bust written all over him. He's not overly athletic and has a streaky shot, yet he likes to shoot A LOT.

Beal looks like he could be really solid. He actually reminds me quite a bit of Gary Neal but with more upside.

I like Thomas Robinson but he's kinda a tweener at the 3/4. Still, he has great footwork and quickness. One of my favorite players in this draft.

Jeremy Lamb is another exceptional athlete but I'm not sure he's skilled enough. And Doron is just a spot up shooter.

There's just way too much inconsistency. Too much bust potential this year.

helloharv wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:#1 Davis--but don't think he is in the same category as Tim Duncan
#2 Kendall Marshall---just started to show what he is and what he is capable of late in the season with great size at the PG.
#3 Andre Drummond--He's not the best player at 3 now--but I saw what he can do and that is more than anyone else who is left by far--in fact I think this is the tier one end
#4 Austin Rivers--Duke relied on him too much and played him heavy minutes for a freshmen. Nevertheless an NBA team needs to transition him to full time point--he has pedigree and genes--and 6-4 PGs dont fall out of trees.
#5 Jeremy Lamb--just touching his potential when he gets stronger and shot becomes softer--watch out. Not a star but all star caliber.
#6 Moe Harkless--for as much hype as MKG and Harrison Barnes get--this is the best SF prospect in the draft
#7 Royce White--legit triple threat with great body enormous hands and great handle for his size(his mental make up is a question)
#8 Thomas Robinson--strong athletic PF who has explosion at the rim--a bit undersized and it showed late in the season against better players.
#9 Fab Melo---simply when he played Syracuse did not lose. He's got some red flags starting with his head--but at a legit 7 260 with his defensive skills impossible to ignore in this weak class.
#10 Tyler Zeller--best combo C-PF in the draft--has great touch could use 5-10 more pds of muscle but legit top 10 in a weak draft.

I don't even think half of those players will go in the top 10 !?

I like Darius Odom and Kevin Jones as top 15-20 players and they are either not on draft 60 boards or 2nd round. It never works out the way you think. I know this is not how the draft will go--but this is how I would likely rate them in a general talent pool. If it was the Knicks--I really like Moe Harkless and Jeremy Lamb either one. Both have a chance to be all stars. I was watching Jeremy speak about his comparisons--but I think he is a combo of a young Allan Houston with a little Scottie pIppen mixed in. If I was picking top 5 for the Knicks I would go Davis Lamb Drummond Harkless Beal---we need either a C or a quality SG. There is no PG high enough--even Marshall who I would take that high since we have Lin. I would go need fit first.