Or the Heat but we neeeeeeeeeed him!!!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/a... I'll take this guy in a heatbeat...It clears up so many things for us...He would be great off the bench or even start...Depends on health and other issues...
I'll say hell yes!!!!
IT BEGINS.
Everyone wants to come to the Knicks before Free Agency. 
I don't know, he'll be 37 next season and he's looked terrible during the playoffs. There's a very good chance he's washed up; we should only bring him in if he's willing to take the vet minimum.
AnubisADL wrote:IT BEGINS.Everyone wants to come to the Knicks before Free Agency.
Well everyone knows we have no money to pay him..So it would have to be the vet min...This may be authentic...Heat has zero space as well ...
It'll take more than Jesus to fix the knicks.
Lala Bonilla coming with him?
Doc and Ray are probably the the only two guys in that damn organization we shall not speak of that I like. I'd welcome Ray. If working out with a combination of Ray Allen and Allan Houston can't fix Landry's shot, nothing will.
Ray Allen is the man. We need him desperately.
Can't we give him the bi-annual exception? That's at least a little more money.
MaTT4281 wrote:Doc and Ray are probably the the only two guys in that damn organization we shall not speak of that I like. I'd welcome Ray. If working out with a combination of Ray Allen and Allan Houston can't fix Landry's shot, nothing will.
Forget Landry, I'd be excited to see what advice Ray could impart to Shump. They have similar forms and maybe Allen could help Shump develop more consistency.
BigDaddyG wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:Doc and Ray are probably the the only two guys in that damn organization we shall not speak of that I like. I'd welcome Ray. If working out with a combination of Ray Allen and Allan Houston can't fix Landry's shot, nothing will.
Forget Landry, I'd be excited to see what advice Ray could impart to Shump. They have similar forms and maybe Allen could help Shump develop more consistency.
Landry = a bag of peanuts and a small soda. His jumpshot got worse between seasons 1&2, still can't dribble or make good decisions. I still believe we could find a better replacement in the d-league for what he brings to the table. Lots of energy guys down there that are true 2guard. Landry fields is the 2nd coming of Shannon Anderson with less defense. Gethimoutofhere.
Ray Allen would be an unbelievable good fit here even now as he is starting to break down.
I would take Ray Allen over Landry Fields anyday, bone spurs old age and all.
ChuckBuck wrote:I would take Ray Allen over Landry Fields anyday, bone spurs old age and all.
I would too, but I worry about the Knicks getting too old. The names I've heard thrown out lately are well past their prime.
I said this in another thread!
Imgine having novak and allen running to the corners during a fastbreak?
Its like pick your poison
unstopaball12 wrote:I said this in another thread!Imgine having novak and allen running to the corners during a fastbreak?
Its like pick your poison
If Ray can stay healthy, it'd be a great pickup. Big IF, but if he can, it would do wonders for the offense and spacing, since it is the Knicks major weakness. 27.5% isn't going to get it done if we're going to step up to be elite:
3-point Field Goal Percentage Leaders
RK TEAM PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% PPS AFG%
1 San Antonio 104.1 38.9 78.8 .494 9.0 21.8 .413 17.3 24.0 .721 1.32 .551
2 LA Clippers 90.9 34.5 75.3 .458 6.2 16.4 .378 15.8 23.7 .667 1.21 .499
3 Dallas 93.3 31.5 78.0 .404 8.0 21.5 .372 22.3 26.8 .832 1.20 .455
4 Oklahoma City 100.8 36.5 79.9 .456 6.8 18.5 .368 21.1 25.3 .835 1.26 .499
5 Chicago 84.3 34.0 80.7 .421 4.3 12.7 .342 12.0 18.5 .649 1.05 .448
6 Orlando 83.8 31.0 77.8 .398 8.4 24.6 .341 13.4 19.0 .705 1.08 .452
7 Miami 96.8 34.5 75.4 .458 6.2 19.2 .324 21.5 29.5 .728 1.28 .499
8 Indiana 90.9 33.7 79.5 .424 5.7 17.9 .320 17.7 23.0 .771 1.14 .461
9 Atlanta 82.2 31.8 79.3 .401 5.8 18.8 .310 12.7 16.2 .784 1.04 .438
10 LA Lakers 94.0 35.2 83.2 .423 5.3 17.3 .304 18.4 23.7 .778 1.13 .454
11 Philadelphia 85.7 32.1 78.1 .411 4.0 13.2 .304 17.5 24.4 .719 1.10 .436
12 Memphis 91.4 32.6 76.3 .427 3.4 11.9 .289 22.9 30.7 .744 1.20 .449
13 Boston 89.0 33.5 76.7 .437 4.4 15.6 .282 17.5 21.6 .812 1.16 .466
14 Denver 96.7 38.4 89.3 .430 5.3 19.0 .278 14.6 20.3 .718 1.08 .460
15 New York 82.8 30.6 73.4 .417 5.0 18.2 .275 16.6 21.8 .761 1.13 .451
16 Utah 86.3 32.8 85.8 .382 2.3 11.3 .200 18.5 26.3 .705 1.01 .395
Also, a healthy Ray Allen can still run circles around the court, would be a return to the motion and screen offense we've missed since Allan Houston been retired, something Novak isn't skilled or quick enough to do.
Alls well and good until Ray tears an acl or achilles or his back and is done in year 1 of his contract
gunsnewing wrote:Alls well and good until Ray tears an acl or achilles or his back and is done in year 1 of his contract
That's my only fear as well. With our luck, Bdiddy and Bibby, it'll happen that way.
If (and that's a big if- every FA uses us to get a bigger contract somewhere else) it came down to us and the Heat, I fancy our chances more, simply because we could offer him a starting spot, and the heat can't. He seemed really p'd off and disrespected when he got moved to the bench with the Celtics.
But then again, I look at the Heats awful roster, and I don't want us to make the same mistake of filling out our roster with vets who are past it and in decline- none of them have really contributed anything to the Heat. Even with the Celtics, over the past few years they've got nothing from the over-the hill players they've signed (Jermaine O'Neal, Shaq), but seem to have gotten a lot more from young players they took a chance on (Rondo, Perkins, Avery Bradley etc).
So I'd say take a chance on one vet (be it Ray Allen, Nash, Grant Hill), but don't sign too many of them- take a chance on some players with upside (and yes, that includes Landry Fields!), because the new cba is going to lock us down for the next 3 years after this summer.
ChuckBuck wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Alls well and good until Ray tears an acl or achilles or his back and is done in year 1 of his contract
That's my only fear as well. With our luck, Bdiddy and Bibby, it'll happen that way.
+100000000000000000
Is NY becoming the prime dump site for every aging guard in the NBA? Maybe we can start an over the hill, one tweak away from a wheelchair Free Agency forum?
Dallas caught Haley's comet's lightening bolt in a glass one year.
Let that balloon go. Please.
