Knicks · Knicks sign Jason Kidd - will either match Lin or sign Felton?!!?! WHAT? (page 9)

KNICKSBIGCATS @ 7/5/2012 8:25 PM
AlexanderFuSheng wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
But.....Lin does not have a signed offer sheet, so there is no "match".
Sign and trade him to Houston like BRIGGS suggests for Jeremy Lamb and #1 pick.

Of all the stupid shit I read here - and there is a lot of it - this is one of the stupidest things suggested.

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Sure. Whatever you say, chop suey.
Your comment and MDA badge makes no sense.

But here....look at my middle finger pointed up in the air in your direction.

loweyecue @ 7/5/2012 8:28 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
AlexanderFuSheng wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
But.....Lin does not have a signed offer sheet, so there is no "match".
Sign and trade him to Houston like BRIGGS suggests for Jeremy Lamb and #1 pick.

Of all the stupid shit I read here - and there is a lot of it - this is one of the stupidest things suggested.

<------Here is your badge. Wear it proudly.


Sure. Whatever you say, chop suey.
Your comment and MDA badge makes no sense.

But here....look at my middle finger pointed up in the air in your direction.

That's messed up, cut it out.

KNICKSBIGCATS @ 7/5/2012 8:30 PM
loweyecue wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
AlexanderFuSheng wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
But.....Lin does not have a signed offer sheet, so there is no "match".
Sign and trade him to Houston like BRIGGS suggests for Jeremy Lamb and #1 pick.

Of all the stupid shit I read here - and there is a lot of it - this is one of the stupidest things suggested.

<------Here is your badge. Wear it proudly.


Sure. Whatever you say, chop suey.
Your comment and MDA badge makes no sense.

But here....look at my middle finger pointed up in the air in your direction.

That's messed up, cut it out.

Sorry if I offended you, loweyecue, but I don't tolerate unprovoked personal attacks....
even on an internet message board.

yellowboy90 @ 7/5/2012 8:30 PM
loweyecue wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I thought about Billy the Kidd, and I think this is good move overall as long as we get Lim back. I am hoping it means Amare spends more time with second unit with Kiddo. That may keep our second unit scoring very efficient, while Melo and Lin can handle the first unit scoring if Woody can teach them to play together.

But if Amare moves to 2nd unit who is our third big in the first unit assuming JR is the 2? We lost Fields and if Melo plays PF who will play SF? BTW -I still think Amare should start but I think him playing majority minutes with Kidd and Novak can be potent.

I like the idea of Shawne Williams coming back for the vet min. He just got bought out by Portland. He can hit the corner 3 to give Melo and Lin space and a target to kick out to. He's also a good defender and can guard most PFs pretty well.

I also want Jeffries back. He's a defensive wizard and highly valuable.

Jeffries -- we were thinking along the same lines.
Extra-E is available? Didn't know that I would like him too. But damn, Odom woulda been nice.

Do you need Jeffries if Shawne is signed? Also, I have brought him up too but how is his knee?

loweyecue @ 7/5/2012 8:40 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I thought about Billy the Kidd, and I think this is good move overall as long as we get Lim back. I am hoping it means Amare spends more time with second unit with Kiddo. That may keep our second unit scoring very efficient, while Melo and Lin can handle the first unit scoring if Woody can teach them to play together.

But if Amare moves to 2nd unit who is our third big in the first unit assuming JR is the 2? We lost Fields and if Melo plays PF who will play SF? BTW -I still think Amare should start but I think him playing majority minutes with Kidd and Novak can be potent.

I like the idea of Shawne Williams coming back for the vet min. He just got bought out by Portland. He can hit the corner 3 to give Melo and Lin space and a target to kick out to. He's also a good defender and can guard most PFs pretty well.

I also want Jeffries back. He's a defensive wizard and highly valuable.

Jeffries -- we were thinking along the same lines.
Extra-E is available? Didn't know that I would like him too. But damn, Odom woulda been nice.

Do you need Jeffries if Shawne is signed? Also, I have brought him up too but how is his knee?

Shawne was a good defender. I have just grown to like Jeffries over time and want him on the roster even if he plays little.

gunsnewing @ 7/5/2012 8:54 PM
Panos wrote:wait... THREE YEARS? WHAT?! Paying him $3M when he's 41, 42 y/o? This is crazy! I'm I the only one concerned the he just became our new dead weight contract?!

Dead weight at 9mil total? If anything he is bought out after the yr

Bonn1997 @ 7/5/2012 8:56 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Panos wrote:wait... THREE YEARS? WHAT?! Paying him $3M when he's 41, 42 y/o? This is crazy! I'm I the only one concerned the he just became our new dead weight contract?!

Dead weight at 9mil total? If anything he is bought out after the yr


Yeah, bought out or a little contract that helps balance the salaries in a trade.
nycisgreat @ 7/5/2012 8:57 PM
crzymdups wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine

Mavs were confident they'd close three-year, $9M deal with Kidd but after all-day deliberations w/both teams Kidd has committed to Knicks
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Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN

Knicks add Jason Kidd and will either match Jeremy Lin or sign Raymond Felton
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If Lin's contract is back loaded, I would prefer to get Felton. The guy is a solid player. I just can't see this team getting its self back into the same hole that it was in a few years ago. If Houston over pays Lin, I have no problem seeing him go, and I hope the Knicks FO feels that same.

nycisgreat @ 7/5/2012 8:58 PM
Mray20 wrote:Sign and trade Lin bring Felton back, That Houston offer sheet is a bad contract to match

I totally agree.

ramtour420 @ 7/5/2012 9:03 PM
nycisgreat wrote:
Mray20 wrote:Sign and trade Lin bring Felton back, That Houston offer sheet is a bad contract to match

I totally agree.

Maybe we can match but with last year as a team option, in case of a career ending injury?

gunsnewing @ 7/5/2012 9:05 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
Mray20 wrote:Well at least Kidd is strong and can play D I remember him guarding Lebron and locking him down in the 4th James could not post him up in that series
people forget tahn kidd has always been a good defender even at his age. nash despite being a great facilitator was probably the worst defensive point guard

Then why were you fighting with me when I was telling you we dont want Nash & Kidd is a better fit lol

crzymdups @ 7/5/2012 9:06 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
nycisgreat wrote:
Mray20 wrote:Sign and trade Lin bring Felton back, That Houston offer sheet is a bad contract to match

I totally agree.

Maybe we can match but with last year as a team option, in case of a career ending injury?

the last year already is a team option.

it's a totally reasonable contract to match. the exact same guaranteed money as the landry fields deal. 4th year is a team option.

knicks would be insane and bad at business and basketball thinking if they didn't match

Knicksfan @ 7/5/2012 9:06 PM
Lin has set his market. Now, I hope he gets back to the Knicks so they can give him the same amount in his contract but in a balanced amount so it doesn't hurt us musch. If that can be done and ue still signs Houston's offer sheet it says he doesn't want to be so work a sign and trade or let him go kill Linsanity.
gunsnewing @ 7/5/2012 9:07 PM
misterearl wrote:Did someone say Bay Area?

"(Lin) and Kidd both Bay Area guys, and Kidd is a childhood hero of Lin's and someone with a lot of wisdom to impart." - Seth Rosenthal

You gotta admit, it has a nice symmetry to it.

Only one thing matters with our "awkward" roster. Does Kidd make the guys around him better?

You damn skippy.

And Tyson and well Fields...

KNICKSBIGCATS @ 7/5/2012 9:07 PM
nycisgreat wrote:
Mray20 wrote:Sign and trade Lin bring Felton back, That Houston offer sheet is a bad contract to match

I totally agree.

Agree, too. I'm glad that there's at least a few of us here
that see the fallacy in signing Lin to such an albatross contract.
BRIGGS had the right idea.

ramtour420 @ 7/5/2012 9:10 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
nycisgreat wrote:
Mray20 wrote:Sign and trade Lin bring Felton back, That Houston offer sheet is a bad contract to match

I totally agree.

Agree, too. I'm glad that there's at least a few of us here
that see the fallacy in signing Lin to such an albatross contract.
BRIGGS had the right idea.

Every contract has potential to become albatross, so what? BTW, you can't have an albatross without Alba.

gunsnewing @ 7/5/2012 9:13 PM
Finally caught up reading the comments on tbis thread. Where were all the positive comments the past 2months when I was getting killed for wanting Kidd while knick universe was all about Nash
crzymdups @ 7/5/2012 9:14 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Finally caught up reading the comments on tbis thread. Where were all the positive comments the past 2months when I was getting killed for wanting Kidd while knick universe was all about Nash

i tend to rationalize any move the knicks make within two hours of them making it. i'm an eternal optimist with regard to the knicks.

gunsnewing @ 7/5/2012 9:15 PM
crzymdups wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I thought about Billy the Kidd, and I think this is good move overall as long as we get Lim back. I am hoping it means Amare spends more time with second unit with Kiddo. That may keep our second unit scoring very efficient, while Melo and Lin can handle the first unit scoring if Woody can teach them to play together.

But if Amare moves to 2nd unit who is our third big in the first unit assuming JR is the 2? We lost Fields and if Melo plays PF who will play SF? BTW -I still think Amare should start but I think him playing majority minutes with Kidd and Novak can be potent.

I like the idea of Shawne Williams coming back for the vet min. He just got bought out by Portland. He can hit the corner 3 to give Melo and Lin space and a target to kick out to. He's also a good defender and can guard most PFs pretty well.

I also want Jeffries back. He's a defensive wizard and highly valuable.

Would be a nice backup plan to camby. Shawne will take the vet min. Can hit the 3 and defend

gunsnewing @ 7/5/2012 9:18 PM
jeffries is always injured
KNICKSBIGCATS @ 7/5/2012 9:20 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
nycisgreat wrote:
Mray20 wrote:Sign and trade Lin bring Felton back, That Houston offer sheet is a bad contract to match

I totally agree.

Agree, too. I'm glad that there's at least a few of us here
that see the fallacy in signing Lin to such an albatross contract.
BRIGGS had the right idea.

Every contract has potential to become albatross, so what? BTW, you can't have an albatross without Alba.

Just sayin'...I'd rather throw 3 years and 12 million at a PROVEN veteran like Felton and make him the starter with Kidd the backup than committing TWICE as much to an UNPROVEN phenom
with a 25 game sample size. On top of that, you might be able maximize your return on Lin (he was claimed off waivers for NOTHING) by trading him for a young player and a #1 draft pick like the trade that BRIGGS suggested.

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