Knicks · Bill Simmons on leaving the Knicks. (page 1)
VCoug@ 7/15/2012 3:05 PM
1. To the Knicks fans who keep asking: If you're going to switch allegiance to Brooklyn, it has to happen this summer. But I'm fine with it. 1h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 2. Here's the thing - Dolan is NEVER selling. The franchise will ALWAYS be screwed up. You have a 2nd NYC team and a legit excuse to leave. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 3. If Celtics were in same situation (with a Dolan owner), I'd stop rooting for them and be an NBA widow unless there was a 2nd Boston team. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 4. The important thing to remember - Dolan is a complete buffoon. You have a 12-year track record to examine now. He's an incompetent owner. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 5. So you have to ask yourself... "Do I really want to spend DECADES of my life with my NBA fate tied to this guy?" You control that answer. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 6. And if you're a diehard, loyal down-with-the-ship type fan, that's fine too... stay with the Knicks. Just saying you have an out here. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 7. My buddy @housefromdc quit on Orioles because of Angelos (Dolan-esque). Baseball widow for years, now a huge Nats fan. Totally happy. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 8. Last thought - I have a great deal of respect for Knicks fans (and NYK history + MSG). They deserve better than... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiM91 ….. View video Reply Retweet Favorite 1h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33
Not going to lie, this isn't the first time I've thought about quitting the team. I came close twice before; once near the end of the Layden error and again near the end of the Isiah error. Dolan just makes it so fucking hard to be a Knicks fan.
JamesLin@ 7/15/2012 3:25 PM
Yup, you know the hate and anger of a diehard Knicks fan.. the owner gots to go....
Knixkik@ 7/15/2012 3:29 PM
For years we have been unhappy because he overpays. NOw you are ready to quit on the team because he's not overpaying? Come on.
markvmc@ 7/15/2012 3:29 PM
Fuck Simmons. You either follow a team or you don't. It's nice if they win, but if you follow a team, their not winning is no reason to stop.
ATrain@ 7/15/2012 3:29 PM
Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 2. Here's the thing - Dolan is NEVER selling. The franchise will ALWAYS be screwed up. You have a 2nd NYC team and a legit excuse to leave. Expand
I refuse to believe. I have everlasting hope.
ChuckBuck@ 7/15/2012 3:35 PM
Simmons is a knowitall douche, he can suck my nuts with his Boston Bias based out of LA.
DaNixFan@ 7/15/2012 3:37 PM
I will always love the Knicks and I'm die hard. I want be that Rangers fan who had the sign that read "Now I Can Die in Peace" after they win a championship.
VCoug@ 7/15/2012 3:37 PM
Knixkik wrote:For years we have been unhappy because he overpays. NOw you are ready to quit on the team because he's not overpaying? Come on.
The problem isn't overpaying or overpaying for players, it's about getting the right players to compete for a championship. Dolan is more concerned with his own ego than putting a championship caliber team on the floor.
holfresh@ 7/15/2012 3:39 PM
hahahahahaha...A Celtic fan telling Knicks fans to be Nets fans..A true Classic...
Swishfm3@ 7/15/2012 3:40 PM
VCoug wrote:
1. To the Knicks fans who keep asking: If you're going to switch allegiance to Brooklyn, it has to happen this summer. But I'm fine with it. 1h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 2. Here's the thing - Dolan is NEVER selling. The franchise will ALWAYS be screwed up. You have a 2nd NYC team and a legit excuse to leave. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 3. If Celtics were in same situation (with a Dolan owner), I'd stop rooting for them and be an NBA widow unless there was a 2nd Boston team. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 4. The important thing to remember - Dolan is a complete buffoon. You have a 12-year track record to examine now. He's an incompetent owner. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 5. So you have to ask yourself... "Do I really want to spend DECADES of my life with my NBA fate tied to this guy?" You control that answer. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 6. And if you're a diehard, loyal down-with-the-ship type fan, that's fine too... stay with the Knicks. Just saying you have an out here. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 7. My buddy @housefromdc quit on Orioles because of Angelos (Dolan-esque). Baseball widow for years, now a huge Nats fan. Totally happy. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 8. Last thought - I have a great deal of respect for Knicks fans (and NYK history + MSG). They deserve better than... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiM91 ….. View video Reply Retweet Favorite 1h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33
Not going to lie, this isn't the first time I've thought about quitting the team. I came close twice before; once near the end of the Layden error and again near the end of the Isiah error. Dolan just makes it so fucking hard to be a Knicks fan.
Whats stopping you
smackeddog@ 7/15/2012 3:43 PM
Why has the media embraced all the Nets moves? They have added the worst contracts in the league- Joe Johnson for 4 years, Wallace at $10 mil for 4 years, Lopez for the max! If we'd signed those players for those amounts we would have been torn apart and ridiculed!
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN@ 7/15/2012 3:45 PM
markvmc wrote:Fuck Simmons. You either follow a team or you don't. It's nice if they win, but if you follow a team, their not winning is no reason to stop.
Yep, that, in a nutshell, is the difference between a True Fan and a fair weather bandwagon rider.
There were tons of them riding the Bulls' sack like that in the '90's. When they started losing after MJ left, they claimed to be "Jordan fans". I think most Knicks fans know chumps like that. Most of those same types ended up "Laker fans" when they started winning, too.
CashMoney@ 7/15/2012 3:50 PM
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:
markvmc wrote:Fuck Simmons. You either follow a team or you don't. It's nice if they win, but if you follow a team, their not winning is no reason to stop.
Yep, that, in a nutshell, is the difference between a True Fan and a fair weather bandwagon rider.
There were tons of them riding the Bulls' sack like that in the '90's. When they started losing after MJ left, they claimed to be "Jordan fans". I think most Knicks fans know chumps like that. Most of those same types ended up "Laker fans" when they started winning, too.
+1
VCoug@ 7/15/2012 3:58 PM
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:
markvmc wrote:Fuck Simmons. You either follow a team or you don't. It's nice if they win, but if you follow a team, their not winning is no reason to stop.
Yep, that, in a nutshell, is the difference between a True Fan and a fair weather bandwagon rider.
There were tons of them riding the Bulls' sack like that in the '90's. When they started losing after MJ left, they claimed to be "Jordan fans". I think most Knicks fans know chumps like that. Most of those same types ended up "Laker fans" when they started winning, too.
This isn't about winning and losing, it's about an owner who cares more about his ego than winning a championship. This is about deciding whether or not to support an owner who's been kicking in the teeth of Knicks fans for over a decade.
jazz74@ 7/15/2012 4:24 PM
holfresh wrote:hahahahahaha...A Celtic fan telling Knicks fans to be Nets fans..A true Classic...
exactly.
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN@ 7/15/2012 4:58 PM
VCoug wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:
markvmc wrote:Fuck Simmons. You either follow a team or you don't. It's nice if they win, but if you follow a team, their not winning is no reason to stop.
Yep, that, in a nutshell, is the difference between a True Fan and a fair weather bandwagon rider.
There were tons of them riding the Bulls' sack like that in the '90's. When they started losing after MJ left, they claimed to be "Jordan fans". I think most Knicks fans know chumps like that. Most of those same types ended up "Laker fans" when they started winning, too.
This isn't about winning and losing, it's about an owner who cares more about his ego than winning a championship. This is about deciding whether or not to support an owner who's been kicking in the teeth of Knicks fans for over a decade.
Well, as far as I'm concerned, A true fan is one who backs his team despite who the owner is. Is one is just a casual follower of a team, they can switch up and bandwagon ride all they want. Personally, I can't stand bandwagon riders.
If this dude Bill Simmons wants to root for the Nyets over the Knicks, then that's on him. Most of that alleged "new Nets fanbase" are Knicks haters anyway, so I say good riddance to them. The Knicks are betetr off without fickle, half-assed fans, anyway.
I know a few dudes who were pseudo-Knicks fans back in the day, and were similarly pissed at Dolan, who is one of the worst owners in sports. They aren't considering themselves Knicks fans now, and I didn't consider them Knicks fans before.
Anyone who wants off the Knicks train can hop out now. Real fans don't need fickle fans polluting our circumference. Take a hike to Barclays Center, and don't let the door hit you on the way out! Believe me, you won't be missed!
GodSaveTheKnicks@ 7/15/2012 5:02 PM
I think if you're a casual fan you stopped following the Knicks at all until maybe Amare got signed.
Dolan is a douchebag but I can't imagine rooting for the Nets. With Billy King at the helm they're not exactly the picture of a well run franchise either.
subzero0@ 7/15/2012 5:02 PM
Knixkik wrote:For years we have been unhappy because he overpays. NOw you are ready to quit on the team because he's not overpaying? Come on.
Yes, Knixkik, THATS why we are unhappy with dolan. /sarc
unbelievable
subzero0@ 7/15/2012 5:04 PM
VCoug wrote:
Knixkik wrote:For years we have been unhappy because he overpays. NOw you are ready to quit on the team because he's not overpaying? Come on.
The problem isn't overpaying or overpaying for players, it's about getting the right players to compete for a championship. Dolan is more concerned with his own ego than putting a championship caliber team on the floor.
This. And Dolan is more concerned with selling tickets than actually winning a championship. He wouldnt mind winning a chip, but if he has to have some down years to get there then it isnt worth it.
subzero0@ 7/15/2012 5:08 PM
VCoug wrote:
1. To the Knicks fans who keep asking: If you're going to switch allegiance to Brooklyn, it has to happen this summer. But I'm fine with it. 1h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 2. Here's the thing - Dolan is NEVER selling. The franchise will ALWAYS be screwed up. You have a 2nd NYC team and a legit excuse to leave. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 3. If Celtics were in same situation (with a Dolan owner), I'd stop rooting for them and be an NBA widow unless there was a 2nd Boston team. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 4. The important thing to remember - Dolan is a complete buffoon. You have a 12-year track record to examine now. He's an incompetent owner. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 5. So you have to ask yourself... "Do I really want to spend DECADES of my life with my NBA fate tied to this guy?" You control that answer. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 6. And if you're a diehard, loyal down-with-the-ship type fan, that's fine too... stay with the Knicks. Just saying you have an out here. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 7. My buddy @housefromdc quit on Orioles because of Angelos (Dolan-esque). Baseball widow for years, now a huge Nats fan. Totally happy. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 8. Last thought - I have a great deal of respect for Knicks fans (and NYK history + MSG). They deserve better than... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiM91 ….. View video Reply Retweet Favorite 1h Bill Simmons @sportsguy33
Not going to lie, this isn't the first time I've thought about quitting the team. I came close twice before; once near the end of the Layden error and again near the end of the Isiah error. Dolan just makes it so fucking hard to be a Knicks fan.
Incase anyone wants to see the two separate videos listed there here they are.
subzero0 wrote: This. And Dolan is more concerned with selling tickets than actually winning a championship. He wouldnt mind winning a chip, but if he has to have some down years to get there then it isnt worth it.
We'll see if he's really concerned with selling tickets than actually winning a championship.. only if he re-signs Lin. Otherwise, he's going for something, but not money or championship..
