Knicks · grunwald hiding in the closet when the lin offer came to his hotel room (page 1)

Glen Grunwald pulled a Las Vegas disappearing act of David Copperfield proportions last week.

The Knicks general manager refused to open the door of his hotel room and avoided a Knicks summer league game in order to avoid being delivered the Jeremy Lin offer sheet by the Rockets, according to a report in the Houston Chronicle. It got so bad that the Rockets went to the NBA for a ruling on when the offer sheet should be considered received.

“We asked the league for help,” Houston GM Daryl Morey told the Chronicle. “They gave us advice. We did what they suggested. They say they consider it a team-to-team issue.”

Grunwald wouldn’t answer the door of his hotel room at the posh Mandarin Oriental or come to the front desk to accept the offer sheet. Grunwald, who just hours earlier had completed a sign-and-trade with the Rockets for Marcus Camby, refused to set up a meeting. Rockets attorneys e-mailed the Lin offer sheet and also sent it overnight to the Knicks offices at Madison Square Garden.

The Rockets took the position that the sheet was received July 13 at 11:59 p.m., which would give the Knicks three days to match. On Tuesday, New York officially declined to meet the backloaded three-year, $25.1 million offer for Lin, mostly because they were angry that Houston made late alterations that would have hit the Knicks with $15 million against their cap in the third year. Lin’s fate was sealed even earlier, though, when reports came in that the Knicks had acquired point guard Raymond Felton in a sign-and-trade with the Blazers.

Still Morey wasn’t convinced that Lin would be a Rocket even after hearing of the liekly Felton transaction.

“I knew about that two nights before,” Morey told the Chronicle, “but I absolutely thought they would match the whole way.”

The Houston GM said he wasn’t certain until Grunwald called Lin and told him the Knicks’ plans in a conversation that lasted less than a minute.

“I knew then they wouldn’t tell Jeremy unless it was done,” Morey said. “That was the first time I really thought it. We got him.”

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he handled this lin thing terrible, just awful, fooled the fans, fooled the media, fooled every damn body, then couldn't face the music when he relise he fck up..he loses some points in my book

I think he was wanted to buy time for Dolan to cool off and reconsider matching the offer to use as a future asset in trades to get back value rather than letting him walk for nothing...

RonRon wrote:I think he was wanted to buy time for Dolan to cool off and reconsider matching the offer to use as a future asset in trades to get back value rather than letting him walk for nothing...

You could be right, but why tell the world you'll match any offer, then don't.. He'll soon see the exact same thing that WALSH saw...Dolan wants his GM's as advisors, that don't have the last word..

It was grunwald who sign him and went out his way to do so, without officially holding the GM title and it should have been him to have the last word...

knicks1248 wrote:

RonRon wrote:I think he was wanted to buy time for Dolan to cool off and reconsider matching the offer to use as a future asset in trades to get back value rather than letting him walk for nothing...

You could be right, but why tell the world you'll match any offer, then don't.. He'll soon see the exact same thing that WALSH saw...Dolan wants his GM's as advisors, that don't have the last word..

It was grunwald who sign him and went out his way to do so, without officially holding the GM title and it should have been him to have the last word...

Did we honestly tell the world we'd match any offer? I did not see any quotes, just "sources". Mysterious "sources".

Solace wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

RonRon wrote:I think he was wanted to buy time for Dolan to cool off and reconsider matching the offer to use as a future asset in trades to get back value rather than letting him walk for nothing...

You could be right, but why tell the world you'll match any offer, then don't.. He'll soon see the exact same thing that WALSH saw...Dolan wants his GM's as advisors, that don't have the last word..

It was grunwald who sign him and went out his way to do so, without officially holding the GM title and it should have been him to have the last word...

Did we honestly tell the world we'd match any offer? I did not see any quotes, just "sources". Mysterious "sources".

In so many ways he did, I mean he did got to lin's house and tell him he was going to be the starter, mutiple reports directly Iout of woody's mouth indicated it was just a formality and lin would be back..

You just read the rockets for sure tought the knicks would match, where would they get that info from, lins girlfriend..

I think grunwald was pissing mad at dolan rather then the Rockets

knicks1248 wrote:

I think grunwald was pissing mad at dolan rather then the Rockets

I "think" that Grunwald had a UTI infection and was just pissing mad.

Sources say that in fact Grunwald wasn't actually in his hotel room at all. He was in fact on a secret mission overseas in his capacity as an occasional operative for the CIA. It is true that the Knicks were willing to pay billions to keep Lin under contract, but other factors came into play as the process unfolded. We are looking at a three-dimensional chess situation here where powerful forces even above Jim Dolan's pay grade were operating to prevent an international incident that could have lead to the onset of World War III.

A lot of people hide in their rooms to avoid people. This is a common behavior, albeit usually occurring only among those under nine years of age.

Bonn1997 wrote:A lot of people hide in their rooms to avoid people. This is a common behavior, albeit usually occurring only among those under nine years of age.

Ha!
That's the only laughable thing about Lin-gate.

BasketballJones wrote:Sources say that in fact Grunwald wasn't actually in his hotel room at all. He was in fact on a secret mission overseas in his capacity as an occasional operative for the CIA. It is true that the Knicks were willing to pay billions to keep Lin under contract, but other factors came into play as the process unfolded. We are looking at a three-dimensional chess situation here where powerful forces even above Jim Dolan's pay grade were operating to prevent an international incident that could have lead to the onset of World War III.

China was insisting on Lin to Taxes... They needed somebody close to US main military installations rather than in NYC, already overcrowded with Chines spies.
Jao was uncovered when he broke his leg second time... he needed a sound replacement. Watch out...

He was hiding in the closet because hotels keep the ironing board is there and he had a lot of clothes to iron. No conspiracy here, folks.

Cmon come out...I know your in there...

This is so two 2000 and late. Lin is a thing of the past. Everything that had to do with that process was so messed up its just better left in the past.

Terrible management style. If he is a ship captain, he'd bail out on his crews and passengers. Tsk. tsk... but I am sure Dolan is part of this game. Knicks is a goner.

This is all James Dolan tactics. This is his yes men doing the job for him.

Solace wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

RonRon wrote:I think he was wanted to buy time for Dolan to cool off and reconsider matching the offer to use as a future asset in trades to get back value rather than letting him walk for nothing...

You could be right, but why tell the world you'll match any offer, then don't.. He'll soon see the exact same thing that WALSH saw...Dolan wants his GM's as advisors, that don't have the last word..

It was grunwald who sign him and went out his way to do so, without officially holding the GM title and it should have been him to have the last word...

Did we honestly tell the world we'd match any offer? I did not see any quotes, just "sources". Mysterious "sources".

If it was the original offer then I believe they would have matched. Out of everything that has come out about this. It seems to come down to Dolan got pissed off that Lin went back to jack up the price.

If we had a little more luck the better senario would have been Lin not signing the offer sheet right away but informing the Knicks of the new offer thus allowing us to work out a S&T instead. Maybe we could have done a Lin, cap fodder and a 2nd rder for K.Martin and Camby.

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newyorknewyork wrote:If we had a little more luck the better senario would have been Lin not signing the offer sheet right away but informing the Knicks of the new offer thus allowing us to work out a S&T instead. Maybe we could have done a Lin, cap fodder and a 2nd rder for K.Martin and Camby.

Nah, it would have been a three-way S&T (with Lin) for The Mayor, Gallinari and Mozgov. Straight up.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Solace wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

RonRon wrote:I think he was wanted to buy time for Dolan to cool off and reconsider matching the offer to use as a future asset in trades to get back value rather than letting him walk for nothing...

You could be right, but why tell the world you'll match any offer, then don't.. He'll soon see the exact same thing that WALSH saw...Dolan wants his GM's as advisors, that don't have the last word..

It was grunwald who sign him and went out his way to do so, without officially holding the GM title and it should have been him to have the last word...

Did we honestly tell the world we'd match any offer? I did not see any quotes, just "sources". Mysterious "sources".

If it was the original offer then I believe they would have matched. Out of everything that has come out about this. It seems to come down to Dolan got pissed off that Lin went back to jack up the price.

If we had a little more luck the better senario would have been Lin not signing the offer sheet right away but informing the Knicks of the new offer thus allowing us to work out a S&T instead. Maybe we could have done a Lin, cap fodder and a 2nd rder for K.Martin and Camby.

the most the Knicks could sign Lin for was $5M plus raises over 4 years; Houston was not limited to that.

100% James Dolan induced. Dolan was having a spoiled child hissy fit somewhere about the extra 5 million, and Grunwald wanted to Lin to come back. Now it's just another great example of why James Dolan is a joke and the whole world knows it.

I wonder who would have been a better chip to trade for Chris Paul. Jeremy Lin or Raymond Felton.

I never advocated for a trade but just this time, can we trade Dolan?

toodarkmark wrote:100% James Dolan induced. Dolan was having a spoiled child hissy fit somewhere about the extra 5 million, and Grunwald wanted to Lin to come back. Now it's just another great example of why James Dolan is a joke and the whole world knows it.

I wonder who would have been a better chip to trade for Chris Paul. Jeremy Lin or Raymond Felton.

Does it matter? We can't trade for Paul anyway.