Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:EnySpree wrote:.fishmike wrote:I always confuse Corey Brewer and Ronnie Brewer... Ronnie is the less talented one. Its a good pickup.
Every guy on the roster is a good defender, and the 2 guys who arent good defenders are our primary scorers which is fine. Seems like they are creating an identity which I 100% endorse.
Novak and A'mare are our worst defenders....melo was vastly improved since joining the knicks...
I didn't realize it but Ronnie Brewer actually averaged 12 & 13 points a game while sitting over 50% two years while in Utah playing with Deron Williams. He didn't show that in Chicago. Knicks don't need him to drop 13 a night but if he has the threat to score like that the knicks are getting a bonus.
Fields is close to 50% too. Both guys are slashers who cant shoot. Brewer will never play with a guy like deron again. What Brewer has over fields is he actually plays defense. But having a shooting guard in the starting lineup who cant shoot will hurt melo and amare because we will be playing 3 on 5 on offense
You're not gonna get a perfect player for the vet min. Like you said, Brewer is a great 2 point scorer. Like Fields, he's also a very good passer. Other than the handling of the Lin situation, I think Grunwald/Dolan have done a very good job this summer.
Thats true unlike fields he can pass and dribble without turning the ball over eveery time
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:EnySpree wrote:.fishmike wrote:I always confuse Corey Brewer and Ronnie Brewer... Ronnie is the less talented one. Its a good pickup.
Every guy on the roster is a good defender, and the 2 guys who arent good defenders are our primary scorers which is fine. Seems like they are creating an identity which I 100% endorse.
Novak and A'mare are our worst defenders....melo was vastly improved since joining the knicks...
I didn't realize it but Ronnie Brewer actually averaged 12 & 13 points a game while sitting over 50% two years while in Utah playing with Deron Williams. He didn't show that in Chicago. Knicks don't need him to drop 13 a night but if he has the threat to score like that the knicks are getting a bonus.
Fields is close to 50% too. Both guys are slashers who cant shoot. Brewer will never play with a guy like deron again. What Brewer has over fields is he actually plays defense. But having a shooting guard in the starting lineup who cant shoot will hurt melo and amare because we will be playing 3 on 5 on offense
You're not gonna get a perfect player for the vet min. Like you said, Brewer is a great 2 point scorer. Like Fields, he's also a very good passer. Other than the handling of the Lin situation, I think Grunwald/Dolan have done a very good job this summer.
Thats true unlike fields he can pass and dribble without turning the ball over eveery time
I definitely would not call Fields a turnover machine.
Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:EnySpree wrote:.fishmike wrote:I always confuse Corey Brewer and Ronnie Brewer... Ronnie is the less talented one. Its a good pickup.
Every guy on the roster is a good defender, and the 2 guys who arent good defenders are our primary scorers which is fine. Seems like they are creating an identity which I 100% endorse.
Novak and A'mare are our worst defenders....melo was vastly improved since joining the knicks...
I didn't realize it but Ronnie Brewer actually averaged 12 & 13 points a game while sitting over 50% two years while in Utah playing with Deron Williams. He didn't show that in Chicago. Knicks don't need him to drop 13 a night but if he has the threat to score like that the knicks are getting a bonus.
Fields is close to 50% too. Both guys are slashers who cant shoot. Brewer will never play with a guy like deron again. What Brewer has over fields is he actually plays defense. But having a shooting guard in the starting lineup who cant shoot will hurt melo and amare because we will be playing 3 on 5 on offense
You're not gonna get a perfect player for the vet min. Like you said, Brewer is a great 2 point scorer. Like Fields, he's also a very good passer. Other than the handling of the Lin situation, I think Grunwald/Dolan have done a very good job this summer.
Thats true unlike fields he can pass and dribble without turning the ball over eveery time
I definitely would not call Fields a turnover machine.
If you look at his turnover stats it may seem like an exageration but when you watch the games and you see that in the very few times he touched the ball he usually turned it over
http://www.basketball-reference.com/
Ronnie BrewerPer 36 Minutes
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Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2006-07 21 UTA NBA 56 14 675 5.4 10.3 .528 0.0 0.5 .000 3.0 4.4 .675 2.0 2.0 4.0 1.3 2.0 0.3 1.3 2.3 13.9
2007-08 22 UTA NBA 76 76 2088 6.1 10.9 .558 0.2 0.9 .220 3.4 4.4 .759 1.7 2.1 3.8 2.3 2.2 0.3 1.2 1.9 15.8
2008-09 23 UTA NBA 81 80 2605 5.8 11.4 .508 0.3 1.2 .259 3.4 4.9 .702 1.4 2.8 4.1 2.5 1.9 0.4 1.5 1.8 15.4
2009-10 24 TOT NBA 58 53 1742 4.3 8.9 .487 0.2 0.6 .258 1.8 2.7 .639 0.9 2.9 3.9 3.2 1.9 0.3 1.1 1.7 10.6
2009-10 24 UTA NBA 53 53 1662 4.5 9.0 .495 0.2 0.7 .258 1.8 2.8 .633 1.0 2.9 3.9 3.3 1.8 0.3 1.1 1.7 10.9
2009-10 24 MEM NBA 5 0 80 1.4 5.9 .231 0.0 0.0 1.8 2.3 .800 0.5 2.7 3.2 1.4 2.7 0.0 0.9 0.0 4.5
2010-11 25 CHI NBA 81 1 1781 4.1 8.6 .480 0.1 0.5 .222 1.8 2.7 .654 1.1 4.2 5.3 2.8 2.1 0.4 1.1 1.7 10.2
2011-12 26 CHI NBA 66 43 1635 4.2 9.8 .427 0.4 1.5 .275 1.2 2.2 .560 1.6 3.5 5.1 3.0 1.6 0.5 1.3 1.4 10.0
Career NBA 418 267 10526 5.1 10.1 .501 0.2 0.9 .244 2.5 3.6 .686 1.4 3.0 4.4 2.6 2.0 0.4 1.3 1.7 12.8
Landry Fields
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2010-11 22 NYK NBA 82 81 2541 4.2 8.5 .497 1.2 3.1 .393 1.6 2.1 .769 1.5 5.9 7.4 2.2 1.1 0.2 1.5 1.6 11.3
2011-12 23 NYK NBA 66 62 1894 4.5 9.8 .460 0.6 2.3 .256 1.5 2.6 .562 1.1 4.2 5.3 3.2 1.5 0.3 1.9 1.9 11.0
Career NBA 148 143 4435 4.3 9.1 .480 0.9 2.8 .344 1.5 2.3 .669 1.3 5.2 6.5 2.6 1.3 0.3 1.7 1.7 11.2
So we pick up ronnie, a shooting guard who can't shoot. This looks like a similar issue we had at the pg position last season..
A point guard who can't direct, waiting on baron to get healthy
now we have a shooting guard who can't shoot and waiting on shump to get healthy..
Shumpert needs to work on his shot too and getting it down consistently. Difference is he is a rookie and was shsowing improvement late in the year. Ronnie is entering his 7th year and didnt fair well starting in chicago last year. Gotta hope his passing and defense will offset the fact that we will be playing 3 on 5 til shump returns
SupremeCommander wrote:Jmpasq wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:ToddTT wrote:After a few shooting lessons from Houston and Novak this guy will be just what we need.
Yup. As Houston and Novak demonstrated with how great of a shooter they turned Fields into 
Fields was to busy with Lin to hang with those two.[:D]
On the real Brewer I believe had an injury to his arm the restricts him from being able to bring his elbow in.
I would send him to a person Like Tom House, a motion specialist, he works with athletes from different sports to help there motion. I think Brewer needs someone who can perfect a shooting motion around his condition.
Really? I think Fields was busy, but not from hanging with Jeremy Lin.
Yeah hard to blame Fields for not working on his shot. Well at least not his basketball shot.
his backdoor play should be vastly improved
knicks1248 wrote:So we pick up ronnie, a shooting guard who can't shoot. This looks like a similar issue we had at the pg position last season..A point guard who can't direct, waiting on baron to get healthy
now we have a shooting guard who can't shoot and waiting on shump to get healthy..
Difference this year, is Brewer is an upgrade over Fields in that he actually isn't a human turnstile. Also, we now have 3 point guards that can direct.
ChuckBuck wrote:knicks1248 wrote:So we pick up ronnie, a shooting guard who can't shoot. This looks like a similar issue we had at the pg position last season..A point guard who can't direct, waiting on baron to get healthy
now we have a shooting guard who can't shoot and waiting on shump to get healthy..
Difference this year, is Brewer is an upgrade over Fields in that he actually isn't a human turnstile. Also, we now have 3 point guards that can direct.
He was pretty bad last yr, and this isn't mda system were 3s get inflated..this particular position requires a you to shoot, come off of screens, spot up and slash...he's equivilent to fields IMO
Brewer has a role here... run the floor and defend. Fields is a nice fill out the stat sheet guy if your running an open offense. With iso-joe Melo pounding the rock and Fields just standing around he was useless here
The question is, does brewer have any glue?
fishmike wrote:Brewer has a role here... run the floor and defend. Fields is a nice fill out the stat sheet guy if your running an open offense. With iso-joe Melo pounding the rock and Fields just standing around he was useless here
Melo is the cause for global warming too
FoeDiddy wrote:fishmike wrote:Brewer has a role here... run the floor and defend. Fields is a nice fill out the stat sheet guy if your running an open offense. With iso-joe Melo pounding the rock and Fields just standing around he was useless here
Melo is the cause for global warming too
really? how so?
fishmike wrote:FoeDiddy wrote:fishmike wrote:Brewer has a role here... run the floor and defend. Fields is a nice fill out the stat sheet guy if your running an open offense. With iso-joe Melo pounding the rock and Fields just standing around he was useless here
Melo is the cause for global warming too
really? how so?
don't question it..if all fails..It's Melo's fault.
fishmike wrote:FoeDiddy wrote:fishmike wrote:Brewer has a role here... run the floor and defend. Fields is a nice fill out the stat sheet guy if your running an open offense. With iso-joe Melo pounding the rock and Fields just standing around he was useless here
Melo is the cause for global warming too
really? how so?
Because of his never ending flatulations - he farts on everything and does not stop. Ask him, he actually said this in an interview.
mrKnickShot wrote:fishmike wrote:FoeDiddy wrote:fishmike wrote:Brewer has a role here... run the floor and defend. Fields is a nice fill out the stat sheet guy if your running an open offense. With iso-joe Melo pounding the rock and Fields just standing around he was useless here
Melo is the cause for global warming too
really? how so?
Because of his never ending flatulations - he farts on everything and does not stop. Ask him, he actually said this in an interview.
I think he twitter farted it the other day, it's on record.
ChuckBuck wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:fishmike wrote:FoeDiddy wrote:fishmike wrote:Brewer has a role here... run the floor and defend. Fields is a nice fill out the stat sheet guy if your running an open offense. With iso-joe Melo pounding the rock and Fields just standing around he was useless here
Melo is the cause for global warming too
really? how so?
Because of his never ending flatulations - he farts on everything and does not stop. Ask him, he actually said this in an interview.
I think he twitter farted it the other day, it's on record.
Yup - twas the fart heard around the world. He also infected Asia with his mad cow disease - BASTARD!
misterearl wrote:You Damn SkippyCashMoney wrote:EnySpree wrote:With this signing we finally see thebig picture as what Glenn has been trying to do. They basically gave the true fans what we been begging for from coach all the way down to the 14th man....we are now ready for war!!!!We are back bitches!!!
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fishmike wrote:I always confuse Corey Brewer and Ronnie Brewer... Ronnie is the less talented one. Its a good pickup.
Every guy on the roster is a good defender, and the 2 guys who arent good defenders are our primary scorers which is fine. Seems like they are creating an identity which I 100% endorse.
Based on what I've heard Corey Brewer is the less talented one.
Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:EnySpree wrote:.fishmike wrote:I always confuse Corey Brewer and Ronnie Brewer... Ronnie is the less talented one. Its a good pickup.
Every guy on the roster is a good defender, and the 2 guys who arent good defenders are our primary scorers which is fine. Seems like they are creating an identity which I 100% endorse.
Novak and A'mare are our worst defenders....melo was vastly improved since joining the knicks...
I didn't realize it but Ronnie Brewer actually averaged 12 & 13 points a game while sitting over 50% two years while in Utah playing with Deron Williams. He didn't show that in Chicago. Knicks don't need him to drop 13 a night but if he has the threat to score like that the knicks are getting a bonus.
Fields is close to 50% too. Both guys are slashers who cant shoot. Brewer will never play with a guy like deron again. What Brewer has over fields is he actually plays defense. But having a shooting guard in the starting lineup who cant shoot will hurt melo and amare because we will be playing 3 on 5 on offense
You're not gonna get a perfect player for the vet min. Like you said, Brewer is a great 2 point scorer. Like Fields, he's also a very good passer. Other than the handling of the Lin situation, I think Grunwald/Dolan have done a very good job this summer.
Bonn I'm suddenly liking your thinking. +1
fishmike wrote:I always confuse Corey Brewer and Ronnie Brewer... Ronnie is the less talented one.
I don't know about that. I think they have different skill sets. Scoring, yea Corey's got the edge, but Corey can't bang with big SG's and SF's like Ronnie can. He can't post up and muscle to the rim like Ronnie can. This is a good pickup and a better fit than Corey would have been. I like this
