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ChuckBuck @ 7/26/2012 12:25 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

mrKnickShot @ 7/26/2012 12:26 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

Didnt we pay him about 7m per and everyone was up in arms about trading him?

CashMoney @ 7/26/2012 12:29 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

RicanHavok @ 7/26/2012 12:31 PM
smh
CashMoney @ 7/26/2012 12:34 PM
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

I don't think the above is accurate...found it at http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/raymond-felton/. It's probably $1 million more per season but still a good deal for the Knicks.

Bonn1997 @ 7/26/2012 12:40 PM
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.
SupremeCommander @ 7/26/2012 12:49 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Lakers would love to land Dwight but refuse to take on the bloated contracts of turkeyglue, jrich & Qrich that Orlando is trying to unload. If it were the Knicks not only would they take on the ridiculous contracts but they would include 2 first round pick and 2 second round picks. One organization knows what they are doing the one on the opposite coast is CLUMSY

Lakers and Spurs are very well run. They rarely trade away picks or take on bad contracts, and never act out of desperation.

Oklahoma City too

SupremeCommander @ 7/26/2012 12:51 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Still they gave up nothing for Nash. This topic is about the Lakers refusal to take on bloated contracts for one player. And what Dolan would give up for that same one player in a ny minute

if Nash was 30 that package would've been nothing

SupremeCommander @ 7/26/2012 12:53 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Uptown @ 7/26/2012 12:54 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Still they gave up nothing for Nash. This topic is about the Lakers refusal to take on bloated contracts for one player. And what Dolan would give up for that same one player in a ny minute

2 first and 2 seconds - nothing?

Its comical to read a thread and watch the original thread starter avoid the responses that trump his original statement. If we gave up all those draft picks the board would be up in arms. You've stated this 2 times and he conveniently skips this and picks at other arguments....

ChuckBuck @ 7/26/2012 1:06 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

LOL Ba-ZINGA!

Anji @ 7/26/2012 1:10 PM
I wonder if the Knicks can get in on this action.
gunsnewing @ 7/26/2012 1:10 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star


Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player
gunsnewing @ 7/26/2012 1:11 PM
Uptown wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Still they gave up nothing for Nash. This topic is about the Lakers refusal to take on bloated contracts for one player. And what Dolan would give up for that same one player in a ny minute

2 first and 2 seconds - nothing?

Its comical to read a thread and watch the original thread starter avoid the responses that trump his original statement. If we gave up all those draft picks the board would be up in arms. You've stated this 2 times and he conveniently skips this and picks at other arguments....


This isnt about nash its about dwight howard. To answer your question yes nash for 4 late round picks is a bit of a gamble but one that is well worth it for a team like the lakers. Maybe not so much for the knicks who dont have kobe, gasol & bynum. I thought I said that already earlier
Bonn1997 @ 7/26/2012 1:14 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star


Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.
gunsnewing @ 7/26/2012 1:16 PM
True he was awful in denver and i watched them every time they were on tv which was often after the melo trade. Really looked out of place. But i think he will do fine in new york because he will be motivated. Hopefully for 4yrs
Anji @ 7/26/2012 1:17 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star


Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Really dude, I understand Bonn is one of your dogs in your corner, but you really going to parrot anything he says, no matter how jaded and dumb????
KnicksFE @ 7/26/2012 1:18 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star


Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

But MDA is not longer here, so I guess Felton all-star number may be over.
gunsnewing @ 7/26/2012 1:20 PM
Anji wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star


Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Really dude, I understand Bonn is one of your dogs in your croner in this fight, but you really going to parrot anything he says, no matter how jaded and dumb????

Ive been saying the same thing for a few weeks. Go back to the Lin contract fiasco. Not going intobthat now when whatthe damage has already been done
SupremeCommander @ 7/26/2012 1:23 PM
Anji wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.


P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?


uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star


Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Really dude, I understand Bonn is one of your dogs in your croner in this fight, but you really going to parrot anything he says, no matter how jaded and dumb????

let's use some statistical analysis: [url="http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/feltora01.html"]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/feltora01.html[/url]

basketball reference's similarity scores has Ray Felton most similar thru seven years to Aaron McKie, Gerald Henderson, Luke Ridnour, John Paxson, Larry Steele, Travis Best, Austin Carr, Foots Walker, Al Attles, and Spud Webb. Are these world class players? No, but no one said they are. Are these guys who played meaningful minutes for a long time in the NBA? YES

gunsnewing @ 7/26/2012 1:25 PM
Felton will be fine its not that hard to dump the ball to Melo. Except in the playoffs when Miami shuts down melo and amare and we dont have a 3rd option offensively to counter
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