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I would add charlie ward chris childs to that list too solid pgs but no rings to show

gunsnewing wrote:Exactly everyone of those guys like travis best were vet min players. That is where i agree with Bonn. And agreeing with him is a rare occurence

Travis Best was a key member of a team that went to the NBA Finals. i fyou want to call him 'nothing special' or 'an average player' okay, I'll bite. But a vet min player? Nope, not buying at all

SupremeCommander wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Exactly everyone of those guys like travis best were vet min players. That is where i agree with Bonn. And agreeing with him is a rare occurence

Travis Best was a key member of a team that went to the NBA Finals. i fyou want to call him 'nothing special' or 'an average player' okay, I'll bite. But a vet min player? Nope, not buying at all

I don't think he understands what a vet minimum player is imo. A starter/sixth man on a nba team with 14/7 as a career isn't a vet min.

Jr smith has a lower grade that Felot on his Bask-ref win shares similarity grade if you didn't know gun............ is he a vet min too???

I would like to add that I think win shares for the most don't mean much too me.

Anji wrote:Jr smith and felton have the same score.

I would like to add that I think win shares for the most don't mean much too me.

same here... but Bonn is the first guy to shit all over an argument if you can't qualify your position with numbers. well here are the numbers. Waiting for him to provide numbers to back his point

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

ChuckBuck wrote:Only reason Dwight Howard isn't a Laker is possibly because of those 4 draft picks the Lakers shipped out for Nash. If the Nash trade backfires or proves ringless, it could be considered a terrible move no?

Yeah, the Lakers are always trading picks. The difference is that their picks are always low, so no one cares. From the Laker's standpoint, they already Bynum. Howard would make them better, but they don't have to go in desperation mode to get him.

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

Its funny that many of the same people were so upset he was traded from the knicks.

LOVE IT!

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

Its funny that many of the same people were so upset he was traded from the knicks.

LOVE IT!

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

Its funny that many of the same people were so upset he was traded from the knicks.

LOVE IT!

Said by a poster who wasn't even here when Felton was traded

Not here? How do you know that? I have been following this forum for a number of years and maybe just maybe - I was actually someone else

Ever think of that Mr Professor?

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

Its funny that many of the same people were so upset he was traded from the knicks.

LOVE IT!

Said by a poster who wasn't even here when Felton was traded

Not here? How do you know that? I have been following this forum for a number of years and maybe just maybe - I was actually someone else

Ever think of that Mr Professor?

SupremeCommander wrote:

Anji wrote:Jr smith and felton have the same score.

I would like to add that I think win shares for the most don't mean much too me.

same here... but Bonn is the first guy to shit all over an argument if you can't qualify your position with numbers. well here are the numbers. Waiting for him to provide numbers to back his point

it'll be a cold day in hell bro...

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

Its funny that many of the same people were so upset he was traded from the knicks.

LOVE IT!

Said by a poster who wasn't even here when Felton was traded

Not here? How do you know that? I have been following this forum for a number of years and maybe just maybe - I was actually someone else

Ever think of that Mr Professor?

seems to be a lot of that going around

Yes, they'bve made some good moves and theri management has definitely kept them consistently relevant for many years.

...but-

To hell with them. Time or the KNICKS to get some shine!

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:Luck the Fakers.

Yes, they'bve made some good moves and theri management has definitely kept them consistently relevant for many years.

...but-

To hell with them. Time or the KNICKS to get some shine!

+1

I don't think the Lakers are ready for us....

To be honest, I think we are the sleeper team to win it all.....

Yes I said it....book it!

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

No one seems to remeber that, but i sure do...he started looking like the old felton 3 weeks before the trade..

but his last yr with the bobcats under larry brown, he was very steady

knicks1248 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

No one seems to remeber that, but i sure do...he started looking like the old felton 3 weeks before the trade..

but his last yr with the bobcats under larry brown, he was very steady

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Turk, jrich & qrich.

For Howard I see. Don't think there was a Knick offer, so that's pretty hypothetical the Knicks would take on those contracts.

For Nash to Knicks, it was a pretty reasonable sign and trade offer:

Nash would receive a three-year contract in the $25 million range while Phoenix would receive Shumpert and a handful of cap-friendly contracts such as Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

Don't see any bad contract taking in there, just Shumpert and some expirings by the Knicks.

P.S. 3 year/$25mill for Nash is a steal compared to you know who

18 mil for Felton?

Isn't it 3 years/$10 mill or 4 years/$18 mill. Forgot what the official contract was, but doesn't seem like much no?

4 yr(s) / $14,861,532
2012 - $3,480,453
2013 - $3,637,073
2014 - $3,793,693
2015 - $3,950,313 (Plyer option)

Can anyone say bargain?

uh no, no one can. For most of his career, Felton has played like a vet min player.

except when he was in New York and played like a borderline all-star

Under mda. Bonn is right outside of that one season he has played like a vet min player

Outside that season? No. Outside the first 7 or 8 weeks of that season would be more accurate.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...

I think you're giving Felton too much credit, his play started to tank in December of that year. If you look at his splits, even though he was still scoring and making assists his shooting percentages dropped to 41.4% fg and 33% 3fg and never recovered.

Its funny that many of the same people were so upset he was traded from the knicks.

LOVE IT!

Said by a poster who wasn't even here when Felton was traded

Not here? How do you know that? I have been following this forum for a number of years and maybe just maybe - I was actually someone else

Ever think of that Mr Professor?

You bring up a good point. On behalf of my UK brothers, I kindly ask you to disclose your former handle for track keeping sake.

nyk4ever wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Anji wrote:Jr smith and felton have the same score.

I would like to add that I think win shares for the most don't mean much too me.

same here... but Bonn is the first guy to shit all over an argument if you can't qualify your position with numbers. well here are the numbers. Waiting for him to provide numbers to back his point

it'll be a cold day in hell bro...