It's the off season people and it's election year. I am posting some articles I read recently by people/websites I read and follow.
Taibbi on Romney, very long article but well worth a read - Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital - How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...
loweyecue wrote:It's the off season people and it's election year. I am posting some articles I read recently by people/websites I read and follow.
Taibbi on Romney, very long article but well worth a read - Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital - How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...
This election will tell alot though lots of folks may lose faith in current prez,
there is 1 thing clear. Mitt isn't the answer
mrKnickShot@ 9/5/2012 1:14 AM
Prediction:
Obama wins by > 20 pct.
Bonn1997@ 9/5/2012 6:12 AM
Prediction: More people actually vote for Obama but electronic voting machines and voter ID laws will give the victory to Romney.
loweyecue@ 9/5/2012 6:23 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:
loweyecue wrote:It's the off season people and it's election year. I am posting some articles I read recently by people/websites I read and follow.
Taibbi on Romney, very long article but well worth a read - Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital - How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...
This election will tell alot though lots of folks may lose faith in current prez,
there is 1 thing clear. Mitt isn't the answer
This may end up as a very low turnout election.
callmened@ 9/5/2012 6:56 AM
Is this a good idea? I hate politics ...not only cuz its confusing but very polarizing...look at how thw the lin transaction went down. That decision still has divided the knicks fan group
Im pro-felton....im ok with lin leavng...his style doesnt fit the team....still unproven and askd for too much money
Nalod@ 9/5/2012 7:10 AM
Im reading the party platforms and I get stuck on the abortion position which only becomes at surface every 4 years.
If my Daughter is brutally raped and the pregnancy could kill her, by law she can't abort. Im not "pro abortion" but Im prochoice.
Any platform that won't recognize a same sex civil union and defines same sex marriage from a religious document is promoting discrimination and in violation of the constitution.
I can't support a platform that attempts to legislate morality and misses the mark.
Those two things are where I get off the GOP.
Economically I agree very much that its not about "smaller government" but has to be about the private sector growth.
The GOP has been out to get Obama since day one.
I would have voted for John McCain if he did not bring that idiot bimbo to the platform.
Personally Romney is tolerable but the GOP has lost it.
callmened@ 9/5/2012 7:14 AM
Wow...for the first time i actually agree with nalod 1000%
@nalod...great points man
callmened@ 9/5/2012 7:20 AM
Im a big fan of balance ...i believe both sides mean well with just different philosopgies (obviously)
Besides knicks bball my life is medicine...so thats the most important thing i care about...i think their needs to be tort refrom (a cap at least)...obamacare sounds good and its a step in the right direction to get insurance to ppl...but that wont solve the problem...the answer comes when ppl take the personal responsibility to take care of themselves with diet exercise and lifestyle modifications that prevent several diseases.
Im also interested to see what they say about immigration. Illegal immigrants do great work for this cointry but they also dont pay taxes yet benefit from being here. Thats not fair. Ots a tricky situation thouh...not sure jow to handle that
VCoug@ 9/5/2012 7:26 AM
Does it matter? Is there anyone who honestly believes Mitt Romney has a chance?
Nalod@ 9/5/2012 7:40 AM
I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
VCoug@ 9/5/2012 8:30 AM
Nalod wrote:I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
I'm in favor of mandatory voting and of changing election day to the weekend. I also like that some states are extending election day to several days beforehand as well
Nalod@ 9/5/2012 8:33 AM
I have been voting early a few years. In NC its getting more voters out also.
OasisBU@ 9/5/2012 8:33 AM
Nalod wrote:I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
How is having it on a tuesday a slap in the face? No job can fire you for going to vote - learn your rights.
Bonn1997@ 9/5/2012 9:42 AM
OasisBU wrote:
Nalod wrote:I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
How is having it on a tuesday a slap in the face? No job can fire you for going to vote - learn your rights.
Employers can fire you for any reason they want to. They just have to make sure the real reason is not provable in court.
mrKnickShot@ 9/5/2012 10:23 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
OasisBU wrote:
Nalod wrote:I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
How is having it on a tuesday a slap in the face? No job can fire you for going to vote - learn your rights.
Employers can fire you for any reason they want to. They just have to make sure the real reason is not provable in court.
If you got fired for going to vote than you either have an awful job for an awful employer or you are doing such a poor job that they would fire you for going to vote.
Either way, time to move on to greener pastures.
Bonn1997@ 9/5/2012 10:43 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
OasisBU wrote:
Nalod wrote:I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
How is having it on a tuesday a slap in the face? No job can fire you for going to vote - learn your rights.
Employers can fire you for any reason they want to. They just have to make sure the real reason is not provable in court.
If you got fired for going to vote than you either have an awful job for an awful employer or you are doing such a poor job that they would fire you for going to vote.
Either way, time to move on to greener pastures.
It's easy for employed people like you and me to say that. But with six unemployed people for every job available, logically people cannot just pick whatever job they want. Obviously the firing would be for taking time off when the employer needs you, not specifically for voting.
mrKnickShot@ 9/5/2012 10:49 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
OasisBU wrote:
Nalod wrote:I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
How is having it on a tuesday a slap in the face? No job can fire you for going to vote - learn your rights.
Employers can fire you for any reason they want to. They just have to make sure the real reason is not provable in court.
If you got fired for going to vote than you either have an awful job for an awful employer or you are doing such a poor job that they would fire you for going to vote.
Either way, time to move on to greener pastures.
It's easy for employed people like you and me to say that. But with six unemployed people for every job available, logically people cannot just pick whatever job they want. Obviously the firing would be for taking time off when the employer needs you, not specifically for voting.
you are a kind and caring man. Most companies are fair about these things as long as you are fair to them. There are those who take advantage on both sides.
Moonangie@ 9/5/2012 10:58 AM
Did you see the speeches last night? One thing's for certain: The Dems have a bunch of terrific talent in public oratory. Michelle's speech was particularly magnificent.
I'm a progressive voter, so my issue with Obama is that he sought bipartisanship with feckless morons whose only interest was obstructionism and corporate/billionaire welfare. I suppose he did that to protect his chances at re-election. Once he wins this November 7th, the gloves should come off.
He should move America to a single-payer health system, enact tough environmental regulation to combat pollution and climate change, protect civil rights for gay couples, protect women's reproductive rights, spend on education reform building off of the national standards movement and 21st century learning models, invest in infrastructure (i.e., smart-grid, road/bridge repair, local transport such as light rail, reinvigorating urban centers) and invest in new energy tech (solar, tidal, geothermal, water-based fuel cell, wind and zero-point: electromagnetic and nuclear fusion).
Do I think he will do these things? Maybe, but not for certain, since the Democrats aren't really progressives just like the Republicans aren't really conservatives. The system is rigged (e.g., Citizen's United) and the Supreme Court has become a political action committee.
But a guy can still hope for the best.
Markji@ 9/5/2012 11:49 AM
Nalod wrote:Im reading the party platforms and I get stuck on the abortion position which only becomes at surface every 4 years.
If my Daughter is brutally raped and the pregnancy could kill her, by law she can't abort. Im not "pro abortion" but Im prochoice.
Any platform that won't recognize a same sex civil union and defines same sex marriage from a religious document is promoting discrimination and in violation of the constitution.
I can't support a platform that attempts to legislate morality and misses the mark.
Those two things are where I get off the GOP.
Economically I agree very much that its not about "smaller government" but has to be about the private sector growth.
The GOP has been out to get Obama since day one.
I would have voted for John McCain if he did not bring that idiot bimbo to the platform.
Personally Romney is tolerable but the GOP has lost it.
Nalod wrote:I was in Lima Peru a few years ago and my driver explained that voting is compulsory there. Your kids can't go to school and other rights are taken away if you don't vote.
Having the election on a Tuesday is slaps in the face of the common man. Most elections in other countries are on a Sunday.
"A country by the people and for the people" must have majority participation to vote for that statement to hold true.
THe GOP has lost its vision. It has lost its compassion.
the GOP is trying to cater to the aging baby boomer and quell its fears.
Nalod, I'm in agreement with you on all points except mandatory voting. People should vote but I wouldn't make it compulsory.
"The GOP has been out to get Obama since day one." I very much agree and this is why I can't bring myself to vote for a Republican. Once Obama got elected their policy was to oppose everything he tried to do, and make all of his policies fail; just so they could get elected in the next election. They put their party's interests before the interests of the country. We were in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, which they very much help create, and then were opposing everything to solve it.
Have 2 days for voting - Saturday and Sunday.
Shorten the election and campaigning period from the now infinite to 2 months. Also limit spending; pacts; and reverse the Supreme Court's ruling that corporations have the rights of an individual. I can't believe that the "most brilliant" minds in the country came to that decision.
loweyecue@ 9/5/2012 12:02 PM
Nalod wrote:Im reading the party platforms and I get stuck on the abortion position which only becomes at surface every 4 years.
If my Daughter is brutally raped and the pregnancy could kill her, by law she can't abort. Im not "pro abortion" but Im prochoice.
Any platform that won't recognize a same sex civil union and defines same sex marriage from a religious document is promoting discrimination and in violation of the constitution.
I can't support a platform that attempts to legislate morality and misses the mark.
Those two things are where I get off the GOP.
Economically I agree very much that its not about "smaller government" but has to be about the private sector growth.
The GOP has been out to get Obama since day one.
I would have voted for John McCain if he did not bring that idiot bimbo to the platform.
Personally Romney is tolerable but the GOP has lost it.
Interesting that you pick those issues. To me the broader context for both issues is separation of church and state. I think it's either Scalia or Alito that actually said he thinks it's his duty to interpret the law based on biblical teachings.
Over the last three four years the GOP has become increasingly more totalitarian in its approach. The constitution specifically warns against the tyranny of the minority but we seem to be headed that way. Both are worrying trends.
IMO - Romney is the first ever Banking Party candidate to run for POTUS. He is using a false flag approach and has little interest in Republican ideals or any other ideals for that matter. If elected he will probably try to privatize the government revenue streams at significant cost to common people. The Buy Out of the government is complete, he will definitely make sure he adds Leverage to it, so his Banking Party can absorb whatever "value" is left in the economy.
