3G4G wrote:WE ARE WHAT OUR TEAM AGE SAYS WE ARE......OLD
Even though no one in our starting lineup is over 30?
Give me Jason Kidd over Toney Douglass, Rasheed Wallace over Josh Harrellson, Ronnie Brewer way over Bill Walker, Pablo Prigioni over Mike Bibby and Marcus Camby over Jerome Jordan any day of the week.
Age ain't nothin' but a number.
dude this is not a fairy tale, or some aaliyah song.... cute but no cigar... this is not a relationship.. this is pro sports where bodies have to perform... As barkely said, this is a young mans game..... I mean why isn't Hakeem still playing instead of teaching amare how to untangle his feet in the post?
"Ooooohhhh It's The L. I. Y. A. H".... Kickin Up The MSG Stage
This Starting Lineup Is Going To....."Rock The Boat"
The Best Pure Scorer Is...."One In A Million"....He Scores On and On and On
This Team Is Going To be...."Hot Like Fiyah"
LOL....
tkf@ 10/2/2012 6:13 PM
gunsnewing wrote:other than Dallas and Detroit have there been any finals upsets in the past 30+years?
Dallas had Dirk. Where is the Knicks Dirk? Detroit was truly the only team to win without hall of fame talent.
that pretty much covers 30yrs. Who knows how far that list can keep going if you wanted to extended for 40-50yrs?
well according to kidd, that is carmelo... but then again we all see kidd has been back to hitting the bottle again....
CrushAlot@ 10/2/2012 7:17 PM
misterearl wrote:Exactly
ChuckBuck wrote:
3G4G wrote:WE ARE WHAT OUR TEAM AGE SAYS WE ARE......OLD
Even though no one in our starting lineup is over 30?
Give me Jason Kidd over Toney Douglass, Rasheed Wallace over Josh Harrellson, Ronnie Brewer way over Bill Walker, Pablo Prigioni over Mike Bibby and Marcus Camby over Jerome Jordan any day of the week.
Age ain't nothin' but a number.
Absolutely agree. Douglas would be cut if he didn't have a moveable contract. I miss Jorts but he was cut in Houston and isn't a lock in Miami now that Pittman has upped his game. Bibby, Walker and soon Jordan will be out of the league. How many 15th men should a contending team hang onto to build for the future and hope that one turns into a rotation player?
ChuckBuck@ 10/2/2012 9:49 PM
gunsnewing wrote:other than Dallas and Detroit have there been any finals upsets in the past 30+years?
Dallas had Dirk. Where is the Knicks Dirk? Detroit was truly the only team to win without hall of fame talent.
that pretty much covers 30yrs. Who knows how far that list can keep going if you wanted to extended for 40-50yrs?
Speaking of Dallas and Detroit, seems like we have alot of vital pieces from those teams:
Mike Woodson Jason Kidd Tyson Chandler Rasheed Wallace
misterearl@ 10/2/2012 9:52 PM
Never Call The Answer Man Dude, Dude
Q. tkf: I mean why isn't Hakeem still playing instead of teaching amare how to untangle his feet in the post?
A. Because he already has his ring and has nothing to prove.
newyorknewyork@ 10/2/2012 10:14 PM
Hopefuly the age brings wisdom, wisdom that can help propel Felton, Shump, Melo and Amare to the next level of there games.
mrKnickShot@ 10/2/2012 10:17 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Wait until Melo and Amare are old in a few years and we have no up and coming young players and lottery picks. It will be another 12yrs of futility. I guess if we win a title in the next 3yrs it will be worth it. Problem is they are not getting past Lakers, Miami and OKC
Yeah - we need those draft picks so we can draft a few more Mike Sweetney's and Jordan Hills. At least if we trade them we can get some value
mrKnickShot@ 10/2/2012 10:21 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Wait until Melo and Amare are old in a few years and we have no up and coming young players and lottery picks. It will be another 12yrs of futility. I guess if we win a title in the next 3yrs it will be worth it. Problem is they are not getting past Lakers, Miami and OKC
If we win it will be worth it for me because i'm a jets and mets and rangers fan so im prayign for a title from one of my teams
I know but they are not beating Lakers, Miami and OKC. Not in the next 3yrs
They could have gone in 20 different ways. They were not getting past those teams especially once they signed Amare who is in decline IMHO.
misterearl@ 10/3/2012 8:05 AM
The Old Players Anthem
MUS: heavy bass
One, two, three and to the fo' Rasheed Wallace and Kurt Thomas is at the do' Ready to make a Garden entrance, so back on up ('Cause you know about to rip Broadway up) Gimme the basketball first, so they can bust like a bubble Crazy eyes and Sheed together, now you know you in trouble Ain't nuthin' but a "NYK" thang, baaaaabay! Two AARP'd up ballers so we're craaaaazay! Cablevision is the network that paaaaays me!
Ain't Nothin but a NYK Thang
Bonn1997@ 10/3/2012 9:12 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Wait until Melo and Amare are old in a few years and we have no up and coming young players and lottery picks. It will be another 12yrs of futility. I guess if we win a title in the next 3yrs it will be worth it. Problem is they are not getting past Lakers, Miami and OKC
If we win it will be worth it for me because i'm a jets and mets and rangers fan so im prayign for a title from one of my teams
I know but they are not beating Lakers, Miami and OKC. Not in the next 3yrs
They could have gone in 20 different ways. They were not getting past those teams especially once they signed Amare who is in decline IMHO.
With that I agree. They did a great job getting a clean slate but the Amare signing was the beginning of a series of bad decisions that didn't end until Walsh left.
ChuckBuck@ 10/3/2012 9:15 AM
misterearl wrote:The Old Players Anthem
MUS: heavy bass
One, two, three and to the fo' Rasheed Wallace and Kurt Thomas is at the do' Ready to make a Garden entrance, so back on up ('Cause you know about to rip Broadway up) Gimme the basketball first, so they can bust like a bubble Crazy eyes and Sheed together, now you know you in trouble Ain't nuthin' but a "NYK" thang, baaaaabay! Two AARP'd up ballers so we're craaaaazay! Cablevision is the network that paaaaays me!
Ain't Nothin but a NYK Thang
The instrumental is surprisingly very soothing:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN@ 10/3/2012 10:32 AM
I think that "Knicks are old" stuff is overblown. We have veteans on the bench, and seasoned starters. I dig the crew that has ben compiled thus far, and am anxious to see them excel on the court this year.
All that haterade is coming from the usual media sources (So-called Knicks beat writers", BSPN analysts who drum up drama to get a check, etc.) who never have anything positive or optimistic to say about the Knicks anyway. I write 'em off and throw 'em out, just like real fans should do with any hater's venom.
Bonn1997@ 10/3/2012 10:48 AM
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I think that "Knicks are old" stuff is overblown. We have veteans on the bench, and seasoned starters. I dig the crew that has ben compiled thus far, and am anxious to see them excel on the court this year.
All that haterade is coming from the usual media sources (So-called Knicks beat writers", BSPN analysts who drum up drama to get a check, etc.) who never have anything positive or optimistic to say about the Knicks anyway. I write 'em off and throw 'em out, just like real fans should do with any hater's venom.
What positive and optimistic stuff should they have been saying over the past 10 years?
NUPE@ 10/3/2012 11:01 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I think that "Knicks are old" stuff is overblown. We have veteans on the bench, and seasoned starters. I dig the crew that has ben compiled thus far, and am anxious to see them excel on the court this year.
All that haterade is coming from the usual media sources (So-called Knicks beat writers", BSPN analysts who drum up drama to get a check, etc.) who never have anything positive or optimistic to say about the Knicks anyway. I write 'em off and throw 'em out, just like real fans should do with any hater's venom.
What positive and optimistic stuff should they have been saying over the past 10 years?
The media has found positive things to say about teams which have been inferior to the Knicks (the last two seasons), such as the Nets...
misterearl@ 10/3/2012 11:15 AM
Thank You
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I think that "Knicks are old" stuff is overblown. We have veteans on the bench, and seasoned starters. I dig the crew that has ben compiled thus far, and am anxious to see them excel on the court this year.
All that haterade is coming from the usual media sources (So-called Knicks beat writers", BSPN analysts who drum up drama to get a check, etc.) who never have anything positive or optimistic to say about the Knicks anyway. I write 'em off and throw 'em out, just like real fans should do with any hater's venom.
This is a new season with 13 new faces on the roster. The Answer Man suggests that any and all bitter beer faces, stuck in the past, should go suck on a lemon. The age thing is an easy headline for lazy writers.
If the usual media suspects wanted to impress us with their basketbal IQ's, they would be writing about how many assists Raymond Felton will drop on Carmelo and Amar'e combined.
Is Ronnie Brewer an upgrade over Landry Fields?
jrodmc@ 10/3/2012 11:15 AM
NUPE wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I think that "Knicks are old" stuff is overblown. We have veteans on the bench, and seasoned starters. I dig the crew that has ben compiled thus far, and am anxious to see them excel on the court this year.
All that haterade is coming from the usual media sources (So-called Knicks beat writers", BSPN analysts who drum up drama to get a check, etc.) who never have anything positive or optimistic to say about the Knicks anyway. I write 'em off and throw 'em out, just like real fans should do with any hater's venom.
What positive and optimistic stuff should they have been saying over the past 10 years?
The media has found positive things to say about teams which have been inferior to the Knicks (the last two seasons), such as the Nets...
Yeah, maybe if we could contend for absolute worst record in the history of the league, and then make great platinum signings like Gerald Wallace and Joe Johnson, we'd be media darlings too.
And don't forget the good feelings everyone had during Linsanity...oooops, sorry guys.
That's right, ESPN had the "ch*nk in the armor" thing...
Nalod@ 10/3/2012 11:32 AM
Knicks media policy the last decade has not exactly helped its case either.
Linsanity was a media creation and a world wide event.
If you did not see the N*t hype machine coming you don't read Nalod. I told it would be big. Its big beyond roster formations.
Prokhorov is boasting but thats to be expected.
Knicks take care of business on the court the media and N*t love are not factors.
If not, it gets ugly as usual. We've had 9 coaches over the last 13 years.
Bonn1997@ 10/3/2012 11:44 AM
NUPE wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I think that "Knicks are old" stuff is overblown. We have veteans on the bench, and seasoned starters. I dig the crew that has ben compiled thus far, and am anxious to see them excel on the court this year.
All that haterade is coming from the usual media sources (So-called Knicks beat writers", BSPN analysts who drum up drama to get a check, etc.) who never have anything positive or optimistic to say about the Knicks anyway. I write 'em off and throw 'em out, just like real fans should do with any hater's venom.
What positive and optimistic stuff should they have been saying over the past 10 years?
The media has found positive things to say about teams which have been inferior to the Knicks (the last two seasons), such as the Nets...
Maybe positive projections but not positive things about their performance over the last few years
NUPE@ 10/3/2012 11:45 AM
Knicks core players (starters) are not old. Then bench is old but I think older vets playing limited minutes off the bench is fine.
