Knicks · Doctor: "Amare has the knees of a 70 year old" (page 1)

When news broke Monday night that Amar'e Stoudemire would be out another six to eight weeks, it sparked a lot of speculation as to the root of his left knee problem.

But one renowned orthopedist strongly believes that Stoudemire's recovery from the ruptured popliteal cyst isn't the only thing he's facing.

"Something else is going on in his knee besides the Baker's cyst," said Stephen E. Blythe, a Miami surgeon who's been practicing for more than 40 years and has experience treating pro athletes. "It's unusual to rest someone that long. I'd be looking at really what's wrong with the inside of his knee that causes a Baker's cyst, and how is that going to affect things?"

The doctor said that because Stoudemire is a patient of microfracture surgery in 2005, he already has some damaged bone in his knee. Therefore, some degenerative changes could have been giving him trouble lately, resulting in the popliteal cyst. While the doctor said that many regular people have asymptomatic Baker's cysts, Stoudemire's was likely larger and more symptomatic.

But even if it ruptured, and may have required a surgical procedure to clean up the inside of his knee, it wouldn't take up to eight weeks for Stoudemire to return.

"The cyst doesn't add any stability or instability to the knee at all," Blythe said. "It just bulges out in the back of your knee, and most of the time, it's symptomatic when it gets large enough that it causes mechanical symptoms in the back of the knee. But when it ruptures, the inflammation, bleeding and so forth usually go away fairly quickly."

The doctor said there is likely more knowledge on Stoudemire's knee that is yet to be released.

"There's information there that you don't know about," he said. "It sounds to me like (the Knicks) are just giving some information, but not full information about what's going in the knee. The only way you'll know if there's more to it than what they say is if the team or the surgeons are willing to give that info to you."

What we do know, however, is that Stoudemire's left knee will never be 100 percent again. In fact, another orthopedist surgeon who currently works for a championship-contending team said, "Stoudemire's knees, at this point in his career, are like a 70-year-old's." (His right knee has also been operated on.)

Knicks fans may have to deal with the reality that STAT's minutes could be curtailed, but he can still be effective in the time he plays. Perhaps that's more with the second unit?

We're phucked. Can't move him, amnesty him, or force him to retire. Only hope is the last year, if someone wants his expiring.

He better put pride aside and accept a bench role, when he gets back healthy. Feast and beast on 2nd unit centers and PF's. It's the only way the Knicks will get some return on his uninsured china doll 70 year old knees ass.

Could be much worse, we are in year 3 of his contract. Next year we will find a trade partner if we choose being in year 4. The year after he becomes a big fat expiring. I think we just have to figure out what is going to happen based on this year and make a decision. Look at Eric Gordon, Stephen Curry, and their lingering issues and just be happy we didn't just give them large longterm contracts.

Knixkik wrote:Could be much worse, we are in year 3 of his contract. Next year we will find a trade partner if we choose being in year 4. The year after he becomes a big fat expiring. I think we just have to figure out what is going to happen based on this year and make a decision. Look at Eric Gordon, Stephen Curry, and their lingering issues and just be happy we didn't just give them large longterm contracts.

Those guys make half and are very young. Their outlook is one of two things:

Teams are idiots for signing them after looking at all the evidence from doc's

or

Their longer term out look is good.

Do you not sign them because of Amare?

BTW, they make HALF of what Amare does.

H20 2.0

At least we saved some money by not resigning Lin (Note sarcasm and tears...)

ChuckBuck wrote:

When news broke Monday night that Amar'e Stoudemire would be out another six to eight weeks, it sparked a lot of speculation as to the root of his left knee problem.

But one renowned orthopedist strongly believes that Stoudemire's recovery from the ruptured popliteal cyst isn't the only thing he's facing.

"Something else is going on in his knee besides the Baker's cyst," said Stephen E. Blythe, a Miami surgeon who's been practicing for more than 40 years and has experience treating pro athletes. "It's unusual to rest someone that long. I'd be looking at really what's wrong with the inside of his knee that causes a Baker's cyst, and how is that going to affect things?"

The doctor said that because Stoudemire is a patient of microfracture surgery in 2005, he already has some damaged bone in his knee. Therefore, some degenerative changes could have been giving him trouble lately, resulting in the popliteal cyst. While the doctor said that many regular people have asymptomatic Baker's cysts, Stoudemire's was likely larger and more symptomatic.

But even if it ruptured, and may have required a surgical procedure to clean up the inside of his knee, it wouldn't take up to eight weeks for Stoudemire to return.

"The cyst doesn't add any stability or instability to the knee at all," Blythe said. "It just bulges out in the back of your knee, and most of the time, it's symptomatic when it gets large enough that it causes mechanical symptoms in the back of the knee. But when it ruptures, the inflammation, bleeding and so forth usually go away fairly quickly."

The doctor said there is likely more knowledge on Stoudemire's knee that is yet to be released.

"There's information there that you don't know about," he said. "It sounds to me like (the Knicks) are just giving some information, but not full information about what's going in the knee. The only way you'll know if there's more to it than what they say is if the team or the surgeons are willing to give that info to you."

What we do know, however, is that Stoudemire's left knee will never be 100 percent again. In fact, another orthopedist surgeon who currently works for a championship-contending team said, "Stoudemire's knees, at this point in his career, are like a 70-year-old's." (His right knee has also been operated on.)

Knicks fans may have to deal with the reality that STAT's minutes could be curtailed, but he can still be effective in the time he plays. Perhaps that's more with the second unit?

We're phucked. Can't move him, amnesty him, or force him to retire. Only hope is the last year, if someone wants his expiring.

He better put pride aside and accept a bench role, when he gets back healthy. Feast and beast on 2nd unit centers and PF's. It's the only way the Knicks will get some return on his uninsured china doll 70 year old knees ass.

THIS ARTICLE IS GARBAGE. Its not coming from the Doc working on Stat so, he's is making a lot of assumption based on NO first hand knowledge.

This isn't rocket science. If you have MF surgery then you are at risk of developing many other problems later on, if you are an athlete. Hopefully this is not the case when it comes to Amar'e but it seems inevitable.

+1. He has no access to imaging, talking to Stat or examining the knee. Just has access to the same crappy articles we read. Dude's an attention seeker or an idiot.

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

When news broke Monday night that Amar'e Stoudemire would be out another six to eight weeks, it sparked a lot of speculation as to the root of his left knee problem.

But one renowned orthopedist strongly believes that Stoudemire's recovery from the ruptured popliteal cyst isn't the only thing he's facing.

"Something else is going on in his knee besides the Baker's cyst," said Stephen E. Blythe, a Miami surgeon who's been practicing for more than 40 years and has experience treating pro athletes. "It's unusual to rest someone that long. I'd be looking at really what's wrong with the inside of his knee that causes a Baker's cyst, and how is that going to affect things?"

The doctor said that because Stoudemire is a patient of microfracture surgery in 2005, he already has some damaged bone in his knee. Therefore, some degenerative changes could have been giving him trouble lately, resulting in the popliteal cyst. While the doctor said that many regular people have asymptomatic Baker's cysts, Stoudemire's was likely larger and more symptomatic.

But even if it ruptured, and may have required a surgical procedure to clean up the inside of his knee, it wouldn't take up to eight weeks for Stoudemire to return.

"The cyst doesn't add any stability or instability to the knee at all," Blythe said. "It just bulges out in the back of your knee, and most of the time, it's symptomatic when it gets large enough that it causes mechanical symptoms in the back of the knee. But when it ruptures, the inflammation, bleeding and so forth usually go away fairly quickly."

The doctor said there is likely more knowledge on Stoudemire's knee that is yet to be released.

"There's information there that you don't know about," he said. "It sounds to me like (the Knicks) are just giving some information, but not full information about what's going in the knee. The only way you'll know if there's more to it than what they say is if the team or the surgeons are willing to give that info to you."

What we do know, however, is that Stoudemire's left knee will never be 100 percent again. In fact, another orthopedist surgeon who currently works for a championship-contending team said, "Stoudemire's knees, at this point in his career, are like a 70-year-old's." (His right knee has also been operated on.)

Knicks fans may have to deal with the reality that STAT's minutes could be curtailed, but he can still be effective in the time he plays. Perhaps that's more with the second unit?

We're phucked. Can't move him, amnesty him, or force him to retire. Only hope is the last year, if someone wants his expiring.

He better put pride aside and accept a bench role, when he gets back healthy. Feast and beast on 2nd unit centers and PF's. It's the only way the Knicks will get some return on his uninsured china doll 70 year old knees ass.

THIS ARTICLE IS GARBAGE. Its not coming from the Doc working on Stat so, he's is making a lot of assumption based on NO first hand knowledge.

Amare's knees aren't cut out for the dream shake.

nykshaknbake wrote:+1. He has no access to imaging, talking to Stat or examining the knee. Just has access to the same crappy articles we read. Dude's an attention seeker or an idiot.

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

When news broke Monday night that Amar'e Stoudemire would be out another six to eight weeks, it sparked a lot of speculation as to the root of his left knee problem.

But one renowned orthopedist strongly believes that Stoudemire's recovery from the ruptured popliteal cyst isn't the only thing he's facing.

"Something else is going on in his knee besides the Baker's cyst," said Stephen E. Blythe, a Miami surgeon who's been practicing for more than 40 years and has experience treating pro athletes. "It's unusual to rest someone that long. I'd be looking at really what's wrong with the inside of his knee that causes a Baker's cyst, and how is that going to affect things?"

The doctor said that because Stoudemire is a patient of microfracture surgery in 2005, he already has some damaged bone in his knee. Therefore, some degenerative changes could have been giving him trouble lately, resulting in the popliteal cyst. While the doctor said that many regular people have asymptomatic Baker's cysts, Stoudemire's was likely larger and more symptomatic.

But even if it ruptured, and may have required a surgical procedure to clean up the inside of his knee, it wouldn't take up to eight weeks for Stoudemire to return.

"The cyst doesn't add any stability or instability to the knee at all," Blythe said. "It just bulges out in the back of your knee, and most of the time, it's symptomatic when it gets large enough that it causes mechanical symptoms in the back of the knee. But when it ruptures, the inflammation, bleeding and so forth usually go away fairly quickly."

The doctor said there is likely more knowledge on Stoudemire's knee that is yet to be released.

"There's information there that you don't know about," he said. "It sounds to me like (the Knicks) are just giving some information, but not full information about what's going in the knee. The only way you'll know if there's more to it than what they say is if the team or the surgeons are willing to give that info to you."

What we do know, however, is that Stoudemire's left knee will never be 100 percent again. In fact, another orthopedist surgeon who currently works for a championship-contending team said, "Stoudemire's knees, at this point in his career, are like a 70-year-old's." (His right knee has also been operated on.)

Knicks fans may have to deal with the reality that STAT's minutes could be curtailed, but he can still be effective in the time he plays. Perhaps that's more with the second unit?

We're phucked. Can't move him, amnesty him, or force him to retire. Only hope is the last year, if someone wants his expiring.

He better put pride aside and accept a bench role, when he gets back healthy. Feast and beast on 2nd unit centers and PF's. It's the only way the Knicks will get some return on his uninsured china doll 70 year old knees ass.

THIS ARTICLE IS GARBAGE. Its not coming from the Doc working on Stat so, he's is making a lot of assumption based on NO first hand knowledge.

Yet, no one from the Knicks' organization, Amare's camp, or the doctors who have examined him have disputed this charge.

Bonn1997 wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:+1. He has no access to imaging, talking to Stat or examining the knee. Just has access to the same crappy articles we read. Dude's an attention seeker or an idiot.

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

When news broke Monday night that Amar'e Stoudemire would be out another six to eight weeks, it sparked a lot of speculation as to the root of his left knee problem.

But one renowned orthopedist strongly believes that Stoudemire's recovery from the ruptured popliteal cyst isn't the only thing he's facing.

"Something else is going on in his knee besides the Baker's cyst," said Stephen E. Blythe, a Miami surgeon who's been practicing for more than 40 years and has experience treating pro athletes. "It's unusual to rest someone that long. I'd be looking at really what's wrong with the inside of his knee that causes a Baker's cyst, and how is that going to affect things?"

The doctor said that because Stoudemire is a patient of microfracture surgery in 2005, he already has some damaged bone in his knee. Therefore, some degenerative changes could have been giving him trouble lately, resulting in the popliteal cyst. While the doctor said that many regular people have asymptomatic Baker's cysts, Stoudemire's was likely larger and more symptomatic.

But even if it ruptured, and may have required a surgical procedure to clean up the inside of his knee, it wouldn't take up to eight weeks for Stoudemire to return.

"The cyst doesn't add any stability or instability to the knee at all," Blythe said. "It just bulges out in the back of your knee, and most of the time, it's symptomatic when it gets large enough that it causes mechanical symptoms in the back of the knee. But when it ruptures, the inflammation, bleeding and so forth usually go away fairly quickly."

The doctor said there is likely more knowledge on Stoudemire's knee that is yet to be released.

"There's information there that you don't know about," he said. "It sounds to me like (the Knicks) are just giving some information, but not full information about what's going in the knee. The only way you'll know if there's more to it than what they say is if the team or the surgeons are willing to give that info to you."

What we do know, however, is that Stoudemire's left knee will never be 100 percent again. In fact, another orthopedist surgeon who currently works for a championship-contending team said, "Stoudemire's knees, at this point in his career, are like a 70-year-old's." (His right knee has also been operated on.)

Knicks fans may have to deal with the reality that STAT's minutes could be curtailed, but he can still be effective in the time he plays. Perhaps that's more with the second unit?

We're phucked. Can't move him, amnesty him, or force him to retire. Only hope is the last year, if someone wants his expiring.

He better put pride aside and accept a bench role, when he gets back healthy. Feast and beast on 2nd unit centers and PF's. It's the only way the Knicks will get some return on his uninsured china doll 70 year old knees ass.

THIS ARTICLE IS GARBAGE. Its not coming from the Doc working on Stat so, he's is making a lot of assumption based on NO first hand knowledge.

Yet, no one from the Knicks' organization, Amare's camp, or the doctors who have examined him have disputed this charge.

You are assuming they even care to dignify the charge with a response.

Bonn1997 wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:+1. He has no access to imaging, talking to Stat or examining the knee. Just has access to the same crappy articles we read. Dude's an attention seeker or an idiot.

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

When news broke Monday night that Amar'e Stoudemire would be out another six to eight weeks, it sparked a lot of speculation as to the root of his left knee problem.

But one renowned orthopedist strongly believes that Stoudemire's recovery from the ruptured popliteal cyst isn't the only thing he's facing.

"Something else is going on in his knee besides the Baker's cyst," said Stephen E. Blythe, a Miami surgeon who's been practicing for more than 40 years and has experience treating pro athletes. "It's unusual to rest someone that long. I'd be looking at really what's wrong with the inside of his knee that causes a Baker's cyst, and how is that going to affect things?"

The doctor said that because Stoudemire is a patient of microfracture surgery in 2005, he already has some damaged bone in his knee. Therefore, some degenerative changes could have been giving him trouble lately, resulting in the popliteal cyst. While the doctor said that many regular people have asymptomatic Baker's cysts, Stoudemire's was likely larger and more symptomatic.

But even if it ruptured, and may have required a surgical procedure to clean up the inside of his knee, it wouldn't take up to eight weeks for Stoudemire to return.

"The cyst doesn't add any stability or instability to the knee at all," Blythe said. "It just bulges out in the back of your knee, and most of the time, it's symptomatic when it gets large enough that it causes mechanical symptoms in the back of the knee. But when it ruptures, the inflammation, bleeding and so forth usually go away fairly quickly."

The doctor said there is likely more knowledge on Stoudemire's knee that is yet to be released.

"There's information there that you don't know about," he said. "It sounds to me like (the Knicks) are just giving some information, but not full information about what's going in the knee. The only way you'll know if there's more to it than what they say is if the team or the surgeons are willing to give that info to you."

What we do know, however, is that Stoudemire's left knee will never be 100 percent again. In fact, another orthopedist surgeon who currently works for a championship-contending team said, "Stoudemire's knees, at this point in his career, are like a 70-year-old's." (His right knee has also been operated on.)

Knicks fans may have to deal with the reality that STAT's minutes could be curtailed, but he can still be effective in the time he plays. Perhaps that's more with the second unit?

We're phucked. Can't move him, amnesty him, or force him to retire. Only hope is the last year, if someone wants his expiring.

He better put pride aside and accept a bench role, when he gets back healthy. Feast and beast on 2nd unit centers and PF's. It's the only way the Knicks will get some return on his uninsured china doll 70 year old knees ass.

THIS ARTICLE IS GARBAGE. Its not coming from the Doc working on Stat so, he's is making a lot of assumption based on NO first hand knowledge.

Yet, no one from the Knicks' organization, Amare's camp, or the doctors who have examined him have disputed this charge.

LoL!

Amar'e: "I used to be a ballplayer like you, until I took an arrow in the knee.."