Knicks · Carmelo Anthony's MVP Season and the New York Knicks (page 52)

DurzoBlint wrote:REALLY DUDE. Do you think people keep your posting in their "favorites" folder so they can give you credit that ain't due. Pound your chest on your own time instead of attacking a guys who isn't a homer but is willing to accept reality unlike some.

No one is "attacking" anyone but I'm sorry, I'm not going to allow someone to make remarks such as "what is happening with this team is something both Haters and Homers did not have knowledge about before it happened" and/or "Nobody saw this coming". Because I did. Lots of us long-time Knick fans did as well. Anyone with any type of basketball knowledge and/or insight understood (at the time) that our current Knicks team were on the verge of becoming a serious contender heading into the season. It was written in stone and wasn't hard to see.

During the offseason I seen our strongest team dating back to our Knicks of 1993-1994. Envisioned our strongest Knicks team in over 19-20 years. Like I stated earlier, all it took were years of Knicks fan experience combined with a thought process. Even went as far as explaining exactly why during a thread I created "Knicks of 2012-2013 vs Knicks of 1993-1994".

During the entire offseason, I talked about how we were on the verge of featuring (by far) the deepest team in the NBA and maybe even in franchise history. Our overall depth from top to bottom was (and is) unheard of, the ability our players had (and have) on the basketball court is something special, veteran leadership galore etc, etc our potential goes through the roof and I'm still not sure how fans and posters such as Nalod (for example) didn't see this coming heading into the season. I predicted our first Atlantic Division title dating back to our 1993-1994 season not because I'm some type of "homer" but because I've been around the game of basketball and/or a fan of these Knicks for well over 20 years now. I know great potential when I see it. And yes, I seen this during the offseason.

So yeah, I don't need a poster such as Nalod stating "what is happening with this team is something both Haters and Homers did not have knowledge about before it happened" and/or "Nobody saw this coming". He can speak for himself. Hindsight is always 20/20 but just because he never had the (offseason) ability to envision one of our (potentially) greatest Knick teams of all-time... Doesn't mean that everyone else shared his doom and gloom and/or "wait and see" approach. He could've simply stated that what's happening now is something that he himself never had any knowledge about (before it happened) and/or he himself never seen this coming. Don't speak for us all. Speak for yourself.

Because during the offseason after we signed Steve Novak long term, extended J.R Smith for another year, while landing the likes of a lockdown defender in Ronnie Brewer, a veteran and future HOF leader in Jason Kidd, an overseas great in Pablo Prigioni, true veteran BIG's looking to play tough down low in Kurt Thomas, Rasheed Wallace and Marcus Camby to go along with our core group of players in Iman Shumpert, Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler? It;s hard to believe how anyone could've gone out of their way to call a fellow Knicks fan "a homer".

They don't play for D'antoni.
Their TS% sucks because that's an offical stat in the rule book now.
They dont' have potential like Gallinari.
They're not 21-9 after beating elite teams.
They don't run SSOL.
They don't play good good defense.
They don't have success in the postseason.

What else?

You showed the league tonight why you are so high on the mvp list.

Thank you sir!

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

RAY for MVP?

BA-LEE-DAT he might be in the Scussin..... at least as an AHHH-STAH!

Lol you make me chuckle.

David West up next for MVP?

David Lee Player of The Week

Lee helped the Warriors to a 3-1 record which included wins at Miami and Atlanta. Lee tallied 22.8 points on .606 shooting from the field, 12.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists and 1.0 steals. He posted a point-rebound double-double in all four contests and extended his double-double streak to seven consecutive games -- the longest such streak in the NBA this season.

Warriors 5th seed 16-8 he's in the Scussin

Meanwhile after tonight Felton might have to be satisfied with doing antiperspirant commercials

mrKnickShot wrote:Carmelo,

You showed the league tonight why you are so high on the mvp list.

Thank you sir!

AnubisADL wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Carmelo,

You showed the league tonight why you are so high on the mvp list.

Thank you sir!

Why? Lol. Lol.

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

Ok skimmed some. Basically stating the obvious, Kevin Durant is the MVP. Better numbers paired with most wins in the NBA for OKC.

No surprise.

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

LOL like a million pages ago.

ChuckBuck wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

LOL like a million pages ago.

Not sure why JKidd is not at the to - SMH

mrKnickShot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

LOL like a million pages ago.

Not sure why JKidd is not at the to - SMH

And if anyone wants to argue the numbers game, Lebron James has better numbers than Durant, but won't win it because Durant's team has the better record.

It's all anyone here was saying defending Melo. The best player on the best team will get MVP recognition. How is that so hard to fathom for people? Doesn't mean he's the best player in the league, just the most valuable to his franchise.

ChuckBuck wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

LOL like a million pages ago.

Not sure why JKidd is not at the to - SMH

And if anyone wants to argue the numbers game, Lebron James has better numbers than Durant, but won't win it because Durant's team has the better record.

It's all anyone here was saying defending Melo. The best player on the best team will get MVP recognition. How is that so hard to fathom for people? Doesn't mean he's the best player in the league, just the most valuable to his franchise.

Both the win shares and wins produced favor Durant over Lebron. It's mostly because Durant has a much better TS%.

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

LOL like a million pages ago.

Not sure why JKidd is not at the to - SMH

And if anyone wants to argue the numbers game, Lebron James has better numbers than Durant, but won't win it because Durant's team has the better record.

It's all anyone here was saying defending Melo. The best player on the best team will get MVP recognition. How is that so hard to fathom for people? Doesn't mean he's the best player in the league, just the most valuable to his franchise.

Both the win shares and wins produced favor Durant over Lebron. It's mostly because Durant has a much better TS%.

Doubt that the MVP voting gives a rats ass about those.

perhaps some evidence that stats like effective FG% weren't invented solely to discredit Carmelo Anthony. In a season where many say he's playing better than he ever has, effective fg%...

agrees.

NYKMentality wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:REALLY DUDE. Do you think people keep your posting in their "favorites" folder so they can give you credit that ain't due. Pound your chest on your own time instead of attacking a guys who isn't a homer but is willing to accept reality unlike some.

No one is "attacking" anyone but I'm sorry, I'm not going to allow someone to make remarks such as "what is happening with this team is something both Haters and Homers did not have knowledge about before it happened" and/or "Nobody saw this coming". Because I did. Lots of us long-time Knick fans did as well. Anyone with any type of basketball knowledge and/or insight understood (at the time) that our current Knicks team were on the verge of becoming a serious contender heading into the season. It was written in stone and wasn't hard to see.

During the offseason I seen our strongest team dating back to our Knicks of 1993-1994. Envisioned our strongest Knicks team in over 19-20 years. Like I stated earlier, all it took were years of Knicks fan experience combined with a thought process. Even went as far as explaining exactly why during a thread I created "Knicks of 2012-2013 vs Knicks of 1993-1994".

During the entire offseason, I talked about how we were on the verge of featuring (by far) the deepest team in the NBA and maybe even in franchise history. Our overall depth from top to bottom was (and is) unheard of, the ability our players had (and have) on the basketball court is something special, veteran leadership galore etc, etc our potential goes through the roof and I'm still not sure how fans and posters such as Nalod (for example) didn't see this coming heading into the season. I predicted our first Atlantic Division title dating back to our 1993-1994 season not because I'm some type of "homer" but because I've been around the game of basketball and/or a fan of these Knicks for well over 20 years now. I know great potential when I see it. And yes, I seen this during the offseason.

So yeah, I don't need a poster such as Nalod stating "what is happening with this team is something both Haters and Homers did not have knowledge about before it happened" and/or "Nobody saw this coming". He can speak for himself. Hindsight is always 20/20 but just because he never had the (offseason) ability to envision one of our (potentially) greatest Knick teams of all-time... Doesn't mean that everyone else shared his doom and gloom and/or "wait and see" approach. He could've simply stated that what's happening now is something that he himself never had any knowledge about (before it happened) and/or he himself never seen this coming. Don't speak for us all. Speak for yourself.

Because during the offseason after we signed Steve Novak long term, extended J.R Smith for another year, while landing the likes of a lockdown defender in Ronnie Brewer, a veteran and future HOF leader in Jason Kidd, an overseas great in Pablo Prigioni, true veteran BIG's looking to play tough down low in Kurt Thomas, Rasheed Wallace and Marcus Camby to go along with our core group of players in Iman Shumpert, Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler? It;s hard to believe how anyone could've gone out of their way to call a fellow Knicks fan "a homer".

I think a lot of people felt very hopeful going into last season as well. And not all but many of the last decade or so.

Anyone with any type of basketball knowledge and/or insight understood (at the time) that our current Knicks team were on the verge of becoming a serious contender heading into the season. It was written in stone and wasn't hard to see.

Hmm

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:REALLY DUDE. Do you think people keep your posting in their "favorites" folder so they can give you credit that ain't due. Pound your chest on your own time instead of attacking a guys who isn't a homer but is willing to accept reality unlike some.

No one is "attacking" anyone but I'm sorry, I'm not going to allow someone to make remarks such as "what is happening with this team is something both Haters and Homers did not have knowledge about before it happened" and/or "Nobody saw this coming". Because I did. Lots of us long-time Knick fans did as well. Anyone with any type of basketball knowledge and/or insight understood (at the time) that our current Knicks team were on the verge of becoming a serious contender heading into the season. It was written in stone and wasn't hard to see.

During the offseason I seen our strongest team dating back to our Knicks of 1993-1994. Envisioned our strongest Knicks team in over 19-20 years. Like I stated earlier, all it took were years of Knicks fan experience combined with a thought process. Even went as far as explaining exactly why during a thread I created "Knicks of 2012-2013 vs Knicks of 1993-1994".

During the entire offseason, I talked about how we were on the verge of featuring (by far) the deepest team in the NBA and maybe even in franchise history. Our overall depth from top to bottom was (and is) unheard of, the ability our players had (and have) on the basketball court is something special, veteran leadership galore etc, etc our potential goes through the roof and I'm still not sure how fans and posters such as Nalod (for example) didn't see this coming heading into the season. I predicted our first Atlantic Division title dating back to our 1993-1994 season not because I'm some type of "homer" but because I've been around the game of basketball and/or a fan of these Knicks for well over 20 years now. I know great potential when I see it. And yes, I seen this during the offseason.

So yeah, I don't need a poster such as Nalod stating "what is happening with this team is something both Haters and Homers did not have knowledge about before it happened" and/or "Nobody saw this coming". He can speak for himself. Hindsight is always 20/20 but just because he never had the (offseason) ability to envision one of our (potentially) greatest Knick teams of all-time... Doesn't mean that everyone else shared his doom and gloom and/or "wait and see" approach. He could've simply stated that what's happening now is something that he himself never had any knowledge about (before it happened) and/or he himself never seen this coming. Don't speak for us all. Speak for yourself.

Because during the offseason after we signed Steve Novak long term, extended J.R Smith for another year, while landing the likes of a lockdown defender in Ronnie Brewer, a veteran and future HOF leader in Jason Kidd, an overseas great in Pablo Prigioni, true veteran BIG's looking to play tough down low in Kurt Thomas, Rasheed Wallace and Marcus Camby to go along with our core group of players in Iman Shumpert, Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler? It;s hard to believe how anyone could've gone out of their way to call a fellow Knicks fan "a homer".

I think a lot of people felt very hopeful going into last season as well. And not all but many of the last decade or so.

Anyone with any type of basketball knowledge and/or insight understood (at the time) that our current Knicks team were on the verge of becoming a serious contender heading into the season. It was written in stone and wasn't hard to see.

Hmm

Anyone who thought that we would be contender going into last year with TD as our starting PG and MDA as his coach just didnt get it.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

LOL like a million pages ago.

Not sure why JKidd is not at the to - SMH

And if anyone wants to argue the numbers game, Lebron James has better numbers than Durant, but won't win it because Durant's team has the better record.

It's all anyone here was saying defending Melo. The best player on the best team will get MVP recognition. How is that so hard to fathom for people? Doesn't mean he's the best player in the league, just the most valuable to his franchise.

Both the win shares and wins produced favor Durant over Lebron. It's mostly because Durant has a much better TS%.

Doubt that the MVP voting gives a rats ass about those.

I've been watching NBA basketball since the early 90s, and NOT ONCE have I ever heard anyone get the award because of their TS%. Not one commentator, analyst, player, etc has credited an MVP due to their TS%.

The NBA does not even have TS% as an official measurement in the game rules book.

It's always about how they've carried their team to a high number of wins.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

3G4G wrote:Current ESPN main NBA page states...

"IT DOESN'T ADD UP"

Melo's MVP candidacy....lol Hmmm I wonder what could be their(the writer's article) reasoning?

It's an insider article...I don't subscribe so I can't post what information they are using for Scussin. Anyone who does can post if they like. I'll search another forum to see if someone has mentioned it.

Please someone do. I'm curious as to what Justin Kubatko has to say.

I guess Sekou in your mind would have Kubato in a Figure Four Leg Lock forcing him to Tap Out on credibility huh?

Basically said what you or I anyone with a keyboard can say. Durant has better numbers and better record so he deserves MVP.

What a revelation!

Durant is the best player on the best team.

This is why he's first.

Chuck, Isn't this what you and I have been saying this all along?

LOL like a million pages ago.

Not sure why JKidd is not at the to - SMH

And if anyone wants to argue the numbers game, Lebron James has better numbers than Durant, but won't win it because Durant's team has the better record.

It's all anyone here was saying defending Melo. The best player on the best team will get MVP recognition. How is that so hard to fathom for people? Doesn't mean he's the best player in the league, just the most valuable to his franchise.

Both the win shares and wins produced favor Durant over Lebron. It's mostly because Durant has a much better TS%.

Doubt that the MVP voting gives a rats ass about those.

I've been watching NBA basketball since the early 90s, and NOT ONCE have I ever heard anyone get the award because of their TS%. Not one commentator, analyst, player, etc has credited an MVP due to their TS%.

The NBA does not even have TS% as an official measurement in the game rules book.

It's always about how they've carried their team to a high number of wins.

The earth being flat was once a popular idea too. Right now, PPG and team wins is what makes you popular. I never claimed otherwise.