Knicks · Proud of this Knicks team. (page 2)

I'm not sure what game you were watching last night because there was very little to be proud of.

I'm with poster arkrud: it's not that they lost but how they reacted to the challenges they faced in last night's game.

You're gonna lose some games, it's a high level of basketball in the NBA. But you shouldn't be quitting on plays. To my mind, that's unthinkable. It's like punching old ladies.

At the same time, we're 8-3 and a lot of season left to play. Let's hope they can come out of this stronger and with clearer heads.

Jason Kidd needs to slap some of the young kids around, namely Melo.

we need another good winning streak. I mean i nver thought we would go 82-0 but the last few games our defense has been suspect and the patience/composure is not there right now. We need to win 5 or 6 in a row and get back to what we we doing earlier

IrishKnickFan wrote:we need another good winning streak. I mean i nver thought we would go 82-0 but the last few games our defense has been suspect and the patience/composure is not there right now. We need to win 5 or 6 in a row and get back to what we we doing earlier

They got way too comfortable after that streak. In a way, this loss to the Rockets was exactly what they needed to remind them that it's an 82 game season.

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

VCoug wrote:

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

When you have the best record, or best record in the East, teams get up for you. They bust their collective @sses to prove that they can beat you. I do not think that our team is used to being the top dog and teams going extra hard at us this year. As a matter of fact , for the longest time we have been considered the opposite and that allowed us to sneak up on teams. Just think of Indiana home and home games last year and what Granger said about us prior and how we have responded. We need to get back to doing the things that got us here to begin with, great D rotations and passing the ball on O

VCoug wrote:

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

Every one of the those teams are over .500 at home and we lost to them on their home floor (excp. Philly) Dallas, without Dirk, won in L.A. Regardless of who you are, it aint easy to win on the road.

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VCoug wrote:

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

When you have the best record, or best record in the East, teams get up for you. They bust their collective @sses to prove that they can beat you. I do not think that our team is used to being the top dog and teams going extra hard at us this year. As a matter of fact , for the longest time we have been considered the opposite and that allowed us to sneak up on teams. Just think of Indiana home and home games last year and what Granger said about us prior and how we have responded. We need to get back to doing the things that got us here to begin with, great D rotations and passing the ball on O

I don't really agree with you this early in the season. Also, our two games against Philly were our 2nd and 3rd games of the season.

Uptown wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

Every one of the those teams are over .500 at home and we lost to them on their home floor (excp. Philly) Dallas, without Dirk, won in L.A. Regardless of who you are, it aint easy to win on the road.

We let Dallas hang around. we really could have blown them out in teh first half teh but the defeensive lapses have been a problem we need to clean that up quick

In a way, the hot start was the worst thing to happen to this team. I think they got the feeling that things are going to be easy, that they can stroll through the season. Let's be honest, the Knicks caught some breaks with Hurricane Sandy and the Heat throwing in a half-effort, then we played some teams with key injuries and then they crowned us #1 on the NBA rankings. Then Woodson started talking a big game and you got the sense that the wins were taken for granted.

I didn't see Melo being held accountable last night after quitting on a play.

Think about this: what would Popovich do if Tim Duncan or Tony Parker quit on a play to argue with a ref? No, a better question: would any Spurs player quit on a play in the first place? That's the subtle difference between the champs and chumps, and I'm devastated to say that, even after our sizzling start, the Knicks are looking more chump than champ.

VCoug wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

When you have the best record, or best record in the East, teams get up for you. They bust their collective @sses to prove that they can beat you. I do not think that our team is used to being the top dog and teams going extra hard at us this year. As a matter of fact , for the longest time we have been considered the opposite and that allowed us to sneak up on teams. Just think of Indiana home and home games last year and what Granger said about us prior and how we have responded. We need to get back to doing the things that got us here to begin with, great D rotations and passing the ball on O

I don't really agree with you this early in the season. Also, our two games against Philly were our 2nd and 3rd games of the season.

Talking about our losses , not wins

ramtour420 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

When you have the best record, or best record in the East, teams get up for you. They bust their collective @sses to prove that they can beat you. I do not think that our team is used to being the top dog and teams going extra hard at us this year. As a matter of fact , for the longest time we have been considered the opposite and that allowed us to sneak up on teams. Just think of Indiana home and home games last year and what Granger said about us prior and how we have responded. We need to get back to doing the things that got us here to begin with, great D rotations and passing the ball on O

I don't really agree with you this early in the season. Also, our two games against Philly were our 2nd and 3rd games of the season.

Talking about our losses , not wins

My point still stands. I don't think that other teams really give a shit that we had the best record through a handful of games.

sorry nykmentality but basketball is not merely a game or mindless entertainment at the end of the day. if it were nobody would take it very seriously and book after book would not be written.

so what's behind the seriousness? i don't mean the "seriousness" of the irrational fan, short for "fanatic." i mean intelligent fans who are students of the game and see sport as a serious endeavor that ideally is a reflection of the human condition. if you read walt frazier's terrific book the game within the game, you would see that basketball has some very valuable life lessons to offer the attentive, and is, at the highest level of competition, a crucible that reveals character or lack of character-- last night's game is an example of this.

and mr. frazier is not the only man who takes this approach. many highly-accomplished players and coaches have taken this approach to what we call a "game." ah but a very serious game it is.

VCoug wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Uptown wrote:Keep in mind, we've played 7 of our 11 games on the road. We've also had 2 sets of back-backs on the road as well. Doesn't excuse the way we played last night, but we could be a little road weary already (try saying that 10 times in a row) Think about it, we are 8-3 have already played against the Heat, @ Spurs, @ Grizz, @ Philly, @ Dal and Hous. Things will even out eventually and I think we will be fine.

Philly isn't very good right now especially without their best player Bynum; Dallas doesn't have their best player Dirk; Houston isn't very good period.

When you have the best record, or best record in the East, teams get up for you. They bust their collective @sses to prove that they can beat you. I do not think that our team is used to being the top dog and teams going extra hard at us this year. As a matter of fact , for the longest time we have been considered the opposite and that allowed us to sneak up on teams. Just think of Indiana home and home games last year and what Granger said about us prior and how we have responded. We need to get back to doing the things that got us here to begin with, great D rotations and passing the ball on O

I don't really agree with you this early in the season. Also, our two games against Philly were our 2nd and 3rd games of the season.

Talking about our losses , not wins

My point still stands. I don't think that other teams really give a shit that we had the best record through a handful of games.

It's a great way to motivate players, especially if its a handful of games since all the winning can go to the team's head. Which in our case I think it did and we reverted back to no ball movement and lackluster d.

IM not ashamed of them when they lose, but Im not "proud" of the knicks!

IM proud of my house, I worked hard to buy it.

IM proud of my Kids! Life has its ups and downs but they are good kids, lots of fun. work hard and have some nice acomplishments!

Im proud of my wife, Married 26 years! Been thru lots of life together and she takes amazing care of us!

Im proud of myself and my accomplishments.

Proud of my country. Proud to be an American! Proud of my heritage, Proud of my religion.

Im proud of a lot of things, not the knicks when they lose a game. Not even when they win. Its not like "I" won! What I do, watch a game? Make any money on it? Yell at the TV and some how it motivates them? Really, what do we do? Knicks got players making some real good money. IM happy for them.

Im entertained, not Proud!

Sports is the ultimate distraction from whatever is going on in your life. The Knicks have been really bad for a long time with no end to their bad play or mistakes in sight. Once Woodson took over that changed. The Knicks haven't come out of training camp and won in a long time. I know it didn't happen at all during the last coaches tenure. Coming out and winning and playing d the way they did was awesome. I couldn't sleep after watching the way they played against the heat on the opening night. Last night sucked really bad but I know what this coach and this team is about. I love the ball movement and defense that I have seen so far this season. I guess I agree about being proud of them. Guys have changed and seem to be getting it. I think this team has the potential to be really good. I hope that tomorrow brings a victory and play like I saw for the first 9 1/2 games.

I swear this summer Dolan had a staff meeting and told all his staff, interns and execs that they need to open accounts on this forum and post happy stuff at least 3x a day or no bonus. All hail king James!

CrushAlot wrote:Sports is the ultimate distraction from whatever is going on in your life. The Knicks have been really bad for a long time with no end to their bad play or mistakes in sight. Once Woodson took over that changed. The Knicks haven't come out of training camp and won in a long time. I know it didn't happen at all during the last coaches tenure. Coming out and winning and playing d the way they did was awesome. I couldn't sleep after watching the way they played against the heat on the opening night. Last night sucked really bad but I know what this coach and this team is about. I love the ball movement and defense that I have seen so far this season. I guess I agree about being proud of them. Guys have changed and seem to be getting it. I think this team has the potential to be really good. I hope that tomorrow brings a victory and play like I saw for the first 9 1/2 games.

You know what they about? The Brotherhood of man? What the hell is going on here that some how a winning streak turned this into some kind of religious experience? We witness a miracle? The Hand of God reach down and bless Woodsons beard? JR wake up and realize he turned his skin into a human lunchbox like cartoon drawing and now he sees the light?

No, they are pro basketball players paid a boat load of money to entertain the fans.

Enjoy it but its not changing anyones life.

If it does, thats what the playoffs are for.

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Sports is the ultimate distraction from whatever is going on in your life. The Knicks have been really bad for a long time with no end to their bad play or mistakes in sight. Once Woodson took over that changed. The Knicks haven't come out of training camp and won in a long time. I know it didn't happen at all during the last coaches tenure. Coming out and winning and playing d the way they did was awesome. I couldn't sleep after watching the way they played against the heat on the opening night. Last night sucked really bad but I know what this coach and this team is about. I love the ball movement and defense that I have seen so far this season. I guess I agree about being proud of them. Guys have changed and seem to be getting it. I think this team has the potential to be really good. I hope that tomorrow brings a victory and play like I saw for the first 9 1/2 games.

You know what they about? The Brotherhood of man? What the hell is going on here that some how a winning streak turned this into some kind of religious experience? We witness a miracle? The Hand of God reach down and bless Woodsons beard? JR wake up and realize he turned his skin into a human lunchbox like cartoon drawing and now he sees the light?

No, they are pro basketball players paid a boat load of money to entertain the fans.

Enjoy it but its not changing anyones life.

If it does, thats what the playoffs are for.

My life has been a bit more enjoyable with this team playing like this. And yeah they seem to be about winning and sacrifice. Nets look good too.

It's amazing the amount of negative energy that can be expended on a team that's now 9-3.

NBA basketball is a sport-based business, played for money to provide entertainment. If you're finding more in it than that, you really need to sit back and assess your values. And your meds. You want to learn life lessons, go to your church or mosque or temple. The deeper morality of life is not to be found in the mecca of NYC basketball or any other sports arena.

It's not a way to learn life lessons. Unless you think millionaires and billionaires hold all the keys to the truth in the universe. These people do not live the same existence you do. They don't truly give two sheets what the price of gas is. They don't worry about mortgage payments. They don't beyatch and moan over how much they're paying for medical insurance each month. If you post on here and really believe your opinion matters, step back and think clearly for a second or two.

Whatever you type on here will be forgotten in less than a month. For the love of sheehit, you'll probably forget it and retype it again in month, anyway. I know I will be.

I am a Knicks fan. I absolutely love the sport itself. Playing it actually, rather than talking, writing, pontificating about X and O's or even watching or listening to it. I love the history of the game, but my allegiance, my loyalty as a fan of a team, is and always has been to the Knicks. If you actually try to correspond fandom to how you feel about your wife and kids and your house, you really have some issues.

Take this team for what they are; a deep bench team that's going to possibly wear down during the course of a long season. That also may get a mid-season boost from two of it's best players. The future looks much brighter than it has in a decade. We play defense again! While shooting the effing hell out of the basket! 52% from THREE!!! If you have a problem with threads about pride and happiness, why do you bother to post here?

A majority of posts from the UK Somber Six amount to what reads like the lancing of mental boils. Homer hate. Rants against positivism. Inner psychoses that Melo has seemed to dredge up. Maybe some cornrowed phenom beat the sheehit out of you during middle school tryouts or at hoops camp one summer. Whatever, maybe it's just the city cool attitude; liking your team has to involve a certain amount of love/hate. I get that. Nobody really wants to be labeled a homer. It's so Bushian, indelicate and not very sophisticated. Homerism always seems to smack of bible thumping fundamentalism, and face it, nobody's thinking "cool" when they think of Billy Graham. Atheists always seem to come off as so cool, intellectual, fact-filled, clear-eyed afficianados of "real" life.

I still like being a Knicks fan. No matter how much we suhuck when we truly suhuck. Or no matter how long we play .750 ball.

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jrodmc wrote:It's amazing the amount of negative energy that can be expended on a team that's now 9-3.

NBA basketball is a sport-based business, played for money to provide entertainment. If you're finding more in it than that, you really need to sit back and assess your values. And your meds. You want to learn life lessons, go to your church or mosque or temple. The deeper morality of life is not to be found in the mecca of NYC basketball or any other sports arena.

It's not a way to learn life lessons. Unless you think millionaires and billionaires hold all the keys to the truth in the universe. These people do not live the same existence you do. They don't truly give two sheets what the price of gas is. They don't worry about mortgage payments. They don't beyatch and moan over how much they're paying for medical insurance each month. If you post on here and really believe your opinion matters, step back and think clearly for a second or two.

Whatever you type on here will be forgotten in less than a month. For the love of sheehit, you'll probably forget it and retype it again in month, anyway. I know I will be.

I am a Knicks fan. I absolutely love the sport itself. Playing it actually, rather than talking, writing, pontificating about X and O's or even watching or listening to it. I love the history of the game, but my allegiance, my loyalty as a fan of a team, is and always has been to the Knicks. If you actually try to correspond fandom to how you feel about your wife and kids and your house, you really have some issues.

Take this team for what they are; a deep bench team that's going to possibly wear down during the course of a long season. That also may get a mid-season boost from two of it's best players. The future looks much brighter than it has in a decade. We play defense again! While shooting the effing hell out of the basket! 52% from THREE!!! If you have a problem with threads about pride and happiness, why do you bother to post here?

A majority of posts from the UK Somber Six amount to what reads like the lancing of mental boils. Homer hate. Rants against positivism. Inner psychoses that Melo has seemed to dredge up. Maybe some cornrowed phenom beat the sheehit out of you during middle school tryouts or at hoops camp one summer. Whatever, maybe it's just the city cool attitude; liking your team has to involve a certain amount of love/hate. I get that. Nobody really wants to be labeled a homer. It's so Bushian, indelicate and not very sophisticated. Homerism always seems to smack of bible thumping fundamentalism, and face it, nobody's thinking "cool" when they think of Billy Graham. Atheists always seem to come off as so cool, intellectual, fact-filled, clear-eyed afficianados of "real" life.

I still like being a Knicks fan. No matter how much we suhuck when we truly suhuck. Or no matter how long we play .750 ball.

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jrodmc - you captured the essence of being a Knicks fan in 2012-13 in one paragraph. This is a roster (in process of becoming a team) that is fun to watch grow.

Take this team for what they are; a deep bench team that's going to possibly wear down during the course of a long season. That also may get a mid-season boost from two of it's best players. The future looks much brighter than it has in a decade. We play defense again! While shooting the effing hell out of the basket! 52% from THREE!!! If you have a problem with threads about pride and happiness, why do you bother to post here?

Even sportswriters, who are given free seats and paid to direct our thinking, question why we shoot three's too much. All of a sudden Mike Woodson is under suspicion for something that is WORKING. Imagine if we were our standard slow-starting 3-9. The Somber Six, who are not happy unless they are unhappy, would be blowing up the phone lines. There would be angry protests in the streets.

The Answer Man bleeds orange and blue, rain or shine, and he never waits to see how things will turn out before he gets on board.

One more thing. Beat East Rutherford... I mean Newark... I mean Uniondale... I mean Brooklyn.

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IM proud of the pride.

I look in the mirror and can't decide if I am one of the "somber six"?

Im not angry because the team is taking care of business. Team is doing a great job.

We'll have bumps in the road. Its to be expected.

We in a tough division!