Knicks · Coach Woodson may have figured it out ! (page 2)

misterearl wrote:Unfortunately, Amar'e and Shump ain't walking through that door anytime soon.

DurzoBlint wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Having Pablo or Kidd on the floor at the same time as Felton is not going to be a long term solution. We will get exposed. Having Shumpert back would be glorious.

Woody is not going to take Kidd out of the starting unit for Shump. Shump will likely take JR's role as first guy off the bench.

A second unit of Amare, Shump, Pablo and Smith is pretty dynamic.

A second unit of Amar'e, Kidd, Novak and Smith is even more dynamic. I am not a huge fan of Pablo. This is the long term plan for the record because Shump needs to get healthy 110% above anything else. After that, driving Kidd into the ground isn't going to work and he will get exposed as a starting shooting guard. We are better off having Shumpert in the SL for his defense and ability to score.

misterearl wrote:Unfortunately, Amar'e and Shump ain't walking through that door anytime soon.

What is your definition of anytime soon? They are both expected back in January and STAT is even expected back around Christmas.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Uptown wrote:For crying out loud, we are the 4th highest scoring team in the league and we are stil complaining about offense? Is it not beautiful enough? Just because we dont like the way the offense looks or have a total different philosphy doesn't mean it aint working. 102 pts per says it is working. During our losses, it was the defense that let us down. We scored enough pts to beat the Rockets and Mavs but we couldn't hold them to our season defensive scoring average. Had we done that, we probably win.

relax we know the defense is the most important but having extra offense against teams like the heat and the thunder is good to have

If you want to compete with the Heat and Thunder on the offensive end, its going to take more than ball movement to beat them. Last I checked, the Heat and Thunder have 2-3 elite scorer's on their rosters. We have 1. If we resally want to have a chance to compete with those teams, it'll beon the defensive end

IrishKnickFan wrote:Amare will be back next month and shump in january

That is just speculation. The clock only starts when they hit the court.

Allanfan20 wrote:What is your definition of anytime soon? They are both expected back in January and STAT is even expected back around Christmas.

If Amar'e makes it back in time for the first round of The NBA Playoffs it would be awesome.

I would be overjoyed if Shump is 100 per cent healthy for Summer League.

Uptown wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Uptown wrote:For crying out loud, we are the 4th highest scoring team in the league and we are stil complaining about offense? Is it not beautiful enough? Just because we dont like the way the offense looks or have a total different philosphy doesn't mean it aint working. 102 pts per says it is working. During our losses, it was the defense that let us down. We scored enough pts to beat the Rockets and Mavs but we couldn't hold them to our season defensive scoring average. Had we done that, we probably win.

relax we know the defense is the most important but having extra offense against teams like the heat and the thunder is good to have

If you want to compete with the Heat and Thunder on the offensive end, its going to take more than ball movement to beat them. Last I checked, the Heat and Thunder have 2-3 elite scorer's on their rosters. We have 1. If we resally want to have a chance to compete with those teams, it'll beon the defensive end

misterearl wrote:Really?

IrishKnickFan wrote:Amare will be back next month and shump in january

That is just speculation. The clock only starts when they hit the court.

IrishKnicksFan - the sooner you accept that The Answer Man kicked it with Mike Saunders, the quicker you will learn to trust him more that some doctored-down "injury report" than the press feeds on.

Target dates, like Trix, are for kids. The next time Shump dunks a basketball, and lands safely without feeling anything in his joints, will be his first in over a year. Shump played through pain all of last season. Take it slow young buck, take it slow.

The NBA schedule is an unforgiving place for the fragile.

y2zipper wrote:IMO, the Knicks shouldn't rush to play Shump this year. Let him recover from his knee injury then let him take Ronnie Brewer's place in the rotation next season. He's an important piece for the future but depth is a luxury the Knicks have so there's no need to rush.

misterearl wrote:Who You Gonna Believe, Some Beat Reporter or Big Time Danny Whelan?

IrishKnicksFan - the sooner you accept that The Answer Man kicked it with Mike Saunders, the quicker you will learn to trust him more that some doctored-down "injury report" than the press feeds on.

Target dates, like Trix, are for kids. The next time Shump dunks a basketball, and lands safely without feeling anything in his joints, will be his first in over a year. Shump played through pain all of last season. Take it slow young buck, take it slow.

The NBA schedule is an unforgiving place for the fragile.

Misterearl, it has already been video documented and posted on here that Shumpert has dunked and safely landed on his feet. I don't know what you are rambling about.

Secondly, chances of Shumpert playing in anymore Summerleagues are nil and none.

y2zipper wrote:IMO, the Knicks shouldn't rush to play Shump this year. Let him recover from his knee injury then let him take Ronnie Brewer's place in the rotation next season. He's an important piece for the future but depth is a luxury the Knicks have so there's no need to rush.

Iman Shumpert is one awkward landing away from ruining a promising career. Knees are complicated and full of drama. No two players are the same so te whole projected return thing is just for entertainment purposes. Rehab, just to walk pain free, is a b#tch. Playing every other night in the NBA is a recipe for an unhappy ending.

misterearl wrote:Amen

y2zipper wrote:IMO, the Knicks shouldn't rush to play Shump this year. Let him recover from his knee injury then let him take Ronnie Brewer's place in the rotation next season. He's an important piece for the future but depth is a luxury the Knicks have so there's no need to rush.

Iman Shumpert is one awkward landing away from ruining a promising career. Knees are complicated and full of drama. No two players are the same so te whole projected return thing is just for entertainment purposes. Rehab, just to walk pain free, is a b#tch. Playing every other night in the NBA is a recipe for an unhappy ending.

Shumpert being cleared to practice is usually the first hurdle to getting some sign that he'll be back soon. Doesn't look like he'll be cleared to practice until maybe January or February. Around the All Star break is a realistic date to see him in game action.

ChuckBuck wrote:Looks like Rubio just got cleared for practice, but even then he's still probably a few weeks away. Rubio's probably due to play sometime in mid December, but probably 15 minutes a game or so to start.

Shumpert being cleared to practice is usually the first hurdle to getting some sign that he'll be back soon. Doesn't look like he'll be cleared to practice until maybe January or February. Around the All Star break is a realistic date to see him in game action.

If Shump steps on court after the All Star break, it will be abeautiful thing. Enough time to get acclimated to the team and fresh legs for the playoffs.

Is DRose due back in January too?

gunsnewing wrote:Rubio is due back in December. Will be cleared for some practice this week. Same injury as Shump but a month sooner.

The injury is only the same in nomenclature only. Physically, Rubio and Shump are nothing alike. Rubio is thin as a rail and built like a middle school kid. Shump is muscularly built like an NFL safety.

Big difference in degree of difficulty.

I think the knicks should target February as well for his return.