I mean Melo was blamed for everything last season and was downgraded as a player. Yet with Dwight Howard, Paul Gasol, Kobe Bryant (which is Melo, Amare and Chandler on steroids) the Lakers have been failing miserably. Meanwhile Carmelo seems to be thriving.
Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
D'antoni shouldn't have to encourage these dudes to play defense.
There is two players on that team that has won DPOY, and another that is usually 1st or 2nd team.
No excuses for that mess out there.
Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
Mike Brown should have not been fired in the first place. The Laker's should improve but right now they are a total mess and Dantoni won't be stressing defense anytime soon.
newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
I guess the Lakers didn't learn much from the Knicks.
newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
That doesn't contradict anything I wrote
I will die laughing if Howard goes to the Atlanta Hawks this summer.
Lakers will so screwed. Oh man.
Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
That doesn't contradict anything I wrote
Sure it does.
You posted as if Mike D'antoni has righted the ship.
He's officially sunken it now.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
That doesn't contradict anything I wrote
Sure it does.
You posted as if Mike D'antoni has righted the ship.
He's officially sunken it now.
Calling things "less bad" means the ship is righted?
Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
That doesn't contradict anything I wrote
Y is this acceptable to you. Shouldn't you be calling MDA Mr.500 right now? Then again I'm not even looking to blame MDA. We all know who he is and what his system is. if they moved around some pieces that fit his system then I have no doubt that he would be doing very wel right now though it would still be questionable if his system can win it all.
I am more talking about the players. It was argued that the players and the system didn't fit together with the Knicks. Yet many people didn't want to hear that and just wanted to blame one specific person. Yet players that are viewed as even better then Melo are in the same situation as him and are producing similar results while he is excelling when put in a position to succeed.
I actually supported D'Antoni but what Woodson has done with this team minus Amare and Shump and what D'Antoni is doing in LA makes it very hard to make a case for him.
newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
That doesn't contradict anything I wrote
Y is this acceptable to you. Shouldn't you be calling MDA Mr.500 right now? Then again I'm not even looking to blame MDA. We all know who he is and what his system is. if they moved around some pieces that fit his system then I have no doubt that he would be doing very wel right now though it would still be questionable if his system can win it all.
I am more talking about the players. It was argued that the players and the system didn't fit together with the Knicks. Yet many people didn't want to hear that and just wanted to blame one specific person. Yet players that are viewed as even better then Melo are in the same situation as him and are producing similar results while he is excelling when put in a position to succeed.
Did you miss what happened with Brown? This group seems to need a new coach every 5 games.
The following are 2 statements that I believe to be true:
1) You cannot judge D'Antoni on the Lakers until he has Nash back for a few weeks
2) D'Antoni has not had success in this league without Nash. Nash made him. It's not a coincidence that our record was so much better right after D'Antoni left. To not admit this is foolish.
They looked better with Bernie. All this means nothing. MDA hasn't been there that long wait until after the trading deadline to get a little clearer picture. Also, Woodson was around the Knicks players unlike MDA.
I want to hear Nalod's perspective on this matter.
Its the little things thats killing that team..howards FT's have been brutal..the other night he miss 12 last night 8..turnovers are also a problem..
With no real perimeter players other then kobe, forgetaboutit..
Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
That doesn't contradict anything I wrote
Y is this acceptable to you. Shouldn't you be calling MDA Mr.500 right now? Then again I'm not even looking to blame MDA. We all know who he is and what his system is. if they moved around some pieces that fit his system then I have no doubt that he would be doing very wel right now though it would still be questionable if his system can win it all.
I am more talking about the players. It was argued that the players and the system didn't fit together with the Knicks. Yet many people didn't want to hear that and just wanted to blame one specific person. Yet players that are viewed as even better then Melo are in the same situation as him and are producing similar results while he is excelling when put in a position to succeed.
Did you miss what happened with Brown? This group seems to need a new coach every 5 games.
Brown has nothing to do with Lakers losing to the Pacers or Orlando in the last 2 of 3 games.
MSG3 wrote:The following are 2 statements that I believe to be true:1) You cannot judge D'Antoni on the Lakers until he has Nash back for a few weeks
2) D'Antoni has not had success in this league without Nash. Nash made him. It's not a coincidence that our record was so much better right after D'Antoni left. To not admit this is foolish.
An alternative way of phrasing that is that he's always had success when he had a competent PG. Two sides to every coin
Right. As much as I hate Dantoni's coaching philosophy I think you have to wait to see what the team looks like with Nash and once Pau is traded for complimentary pieces before callig this a failure what 5 games in? There is too much talent on the team not to figure it out themselves
Bonn1997 wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Why? They look better (or less bad) with MDA than with Mike Brown. Before MDA, it looked like this was a group of players whose time has passed.
They just lost to the Orlando Magic and have some bad losses to the Kings, Pacers, and now Orlando over the last 8 games.
That doesn't contradict anything I wrote
Sure it does.
You posted as if Mike D'antoni has righted the ship.
He's officially sunken it now.
Calling things "less bad" means the ship is righted?
"Just as bad" or "even worse" is probably more appropriate.
