Knicks · Barkley is going to be @ the garden thursday..switching up his nets rant (page 1)

Charles Barkley retired as a player in 2000, and in the intervening dozen years visited the World's Most Famous Arena to watch the Knicks . . . once!?!

Why?

"Cause y'all's team stunk," he said. "Why would I go see y'all play? One thing about me is I'm not going to watch the bad teams play."

So, presumably it is a good sign that the TNT star -- for years the most visible Knicks skeptic on television -- will be at Madison Square Garden on Thursday for a rare appearance as a game analyst when the Lakers come to town.

And, get this: Unlike when he visited 23 months ago for a game against the Heat, at which time he pooh-poohed the notion the Knicks were "back," Sir Charles has been won over.

Mostly.

"I think they're a good team, and I think Jason Kidd has had a huge effect on Raymond Felton and J.R. Smith," Barkley he said Tuesday, before Kidd's latest heroics against the Nets. (Barkley was in Los Angeles taping a celebrity edition of "The Price is Right.")

"But when I look at their stats, they only out-rebounded the teams they've played like twice. That concerns me. And I don't know if they can keep shooting threes like that. That's my only critique. It's not a criticism, it's a critique."

Entering Wednesday night, the Knicks ranked third in the NBA in three-point field-goal percentage at .409 and 27th in rebounding differential at minus-3.8.

Hence Barkley's stance on the looming question for the Knicks: What to do with Amar'e Stoudemire?

"Even though they're winning, they are getting killed on the boards," he said. "So is he going to help them with the defense and rebounding or not? That's a very simple question for me."

Another key to the Knicks maintaining their momentum is keeping their older players healthy -- one older player above all others.

"Jason Kidd was the best leader we had in the NBA for a while when he was in New Jersey," Barkley said.

So how is he still doing this at age 39?

"He plays the game with his brain," Barkey said"

This will be Barkley's second foray into game analysis this season. "I like doing the games, because you get a little stagnant and bored in a studio," he said. "I like the action of the game."

Being courtside at the Garden could be interesting, because Knicks fans are well aware of his bluntly stated positions on their team.

"I think they will treat me fine; I think fans appreciate you being honest," he said. "First of all, I've been right. I don't say things because I don't like the Knicks. But they stunk."

Barkley insisted his motives are pure. "For me, it's never personal," he said. "It's always about basketball. I'm never going to have a hidden agenda."

Players don't always see it that way.

Monday night the Heat's LeBron James suggested Barkley "shut up" after Dwyane Wade bounced back with a strong game after Barkley suggested he was declining physically.

"Oh my God," Barkley said. "These guys are so sensitive."

Barkley conceded the Knicks' revival is good for the NBA, and will be even more so "if Brooklyn can ever keep that [Brook] Lopez kid healthy," for the sake of the teams' budding rivalry.

In the meantime, it's enough that the Knicks are better. Even Charles thinks so! Mostly.

"Everybody in New York thinks the Knicks are Playboy bunnies, and I have been telling them for years the Knicks are a rabbit," he said. "They're closer to a Playboy bunny this year but for the last few years these guys are like, 'We have a really good team!' And I say, 'You really think that?' And I say, 'No, they don't.' But this is the best team they've had in a while."

wtf barkley, a week ago it was the Nets

Let's see how many pages this can generate.

maybe he does know what he's talking about, although I still think he's a tnt mascott

ChuckBuck wrote:I can't take him seriously when he says Iman Shumpert doesn't play defense and JR Smith is a starter.

and Nick Novak

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:I can't take him seriously when he says Iman Shumpert doesn't play defense and JR Smith is a starter.

and Nick Novak

Haha I still remember the dude had to leak it on the sideline during the game

knicks1248 wrote:Actually no kidding..The last time barkley said the knicks were a good team, was when we went to the finals against the rockets and he said in december of the season.., that was his 2nd year at tnt..

maybe he does know what he's talking about, although I still think he's a tnt mascott

Wait, what? Barkley was still playing in 1994. I think you mean the Spurs? But even then he retired in 2000.

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:I can't take him seriously when he says Iman Shumpert doesn't play defense and JR Smith is a starter.

and Nick Novak

I wish I was going to that game. I hope/pray that Knicks fans give him all the hell a they can muster. If I was there I make sure I have a roll of quarters to pelt his ass.

JamesKPolk wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Actually no kidding..The last time barkley said the knicks were a good team, was when we went to the finals against the rockets and he said in december of the season.., that was his 2nd year at tnt..

maybe he does know what he's talking about, although I still think he's a tnt mascott

Wait, what? Barkley was still playing in 1994. I think you mean the Spurs? But even then he retired in 2000.

your right, he was a guess on the panel that night..at which point both the knicks and rockets had 14 game win streaks

47. "We better not be doing the Bulls this year. Man, they suck! Bunch of high school kids with $70 million contracts. Damn! I hate my mother for having me too soon."

30. When the Dream Team was about to play the Angola national team, during pre-game interviews the other USA players provided diplomatic, face saving comments about how they would play hard and felt strongly they would win. When Chuck was asked about Angola and the game, he replied: "They're in a lot of trouble."

7. "When I was recruited at Auburn [university], they took me to a strip joint. When I saw those titties on Buffy, I knew that Auburn met my academic requirements."

1. After an Olympic Dream Team victory over Angola, in which they won 116-48, Charles got into a physical altercation with a member of Angola towards the end of the game, afterwards he says: "Somebody hits me, I'm going to hit him back. Even if it does look like he hasn't eaten in a couple weeks. I thought he was going to pull a spear on me."

DurzoBlint wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:I can't take him seriously when he says Iman Shumpert doesn't play defense and JR Smith is a starter.

and Nick Novak

I wish I was going to that game. I hope/pray that Knicks fans give him all the hell a they can muster. If I was there I make sure I have a roll of quarters to pelt his ass.

He would go Ron Artest I mean Metta World Peace on you.

Now he is see's the record.

Whats the big deal? Y'all got offended he did not show respect when had little to offer?

Nalod wrote:we did suck.

Now he is see's the record.

Whats the big deal? Y'all got offended he did not show respect when had little to offer?

Charles Barkley has said that the Knicks were a bad team and that the Nets are better every year for the past 4 years. He even said the Nets were better that year that they almost set the record for losses. Even this year he is still maintaining that to an extent. Barkley said the Knicks don't play defense. Case closed. Totally out of touch. When he said "Y'all sucked" he is also talking about just up until THIS YEAR. He was saying the Knicks are not a very good team just this summer. Last year he said the Knicks were a bad team while saying he really liked Philly. Case closed again. Anyone who has a bball IQ knew the Knicks would be much improved.....that is except for the few on this forum who still are holding on to the Knicks somehow not being good. Barkley and these people are delusional. Barkley has no choice but to reluctantly say that the Knicks are "better". You can't keep saying that a team who is 6th and a game or so out of 8th is better than the number one team in the east. He has no choice at this point. But 2 weeks ago? Forget it! Matter of fact ONE week ago.

playa2 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:I can't take him seriously when he says Iman Shumpert doesn't play defense and JR Smith is a starter.

and Nick Novak

I wish I was going to that game. I hope/pray that Knicks fans give him all the hell a they can muster. If I was there I make sure I have a roll of quarters to pelt his ass.

He would go Ron Artest I mean Metta World Peace on you.

his fat ass could never, ever, ever catch me and if he did, I'd hurt him. Dude may be bigger than me but, I have a pretty decent amateur boxing background and I stay fit. He'd throw a punch and I'd spin, throw a kick to the back of his knee and quickly floor his ass.

TheloniusMonk wrote:

Nalod wrote:we did suck.

Now he is see's the record.

Whats the big deal? Y'all got offended he did not show respect when had little to offer?

Charles Barkley has said that the Knicks were a bad team and that the Nets are better every year for the past 4 years. He even said the Nets were better that year that they almost set the record for losses. Even this year he is still maintaining that to an extent. Barkley said the Knicks don't play defense. Case closed. Totally out of touch. When he said "Y'all sucked" he is also talking about just up until THIS YEAR. He was saying the Knicks are not a very good team just this summer. Last year he said the Knicks were a bad team while saying he really liked Philly. Case closed again. Anyone who has a bball IQ knew the Knicks would be much improved.....that is except for the few on this forum who still are holding on to the Knicks somehow not being good. Barkley and these people are delusional. Barkley has no choice but to reluctantly say that the Knicks are "better". You can't keep saying that a team who is 6th and a game or so out of 8th is better than the number one team in the east. He has no choice at this point. But 2 weeks ago? Forget it! Matter of fact ONE week ago.

Knicks are earning it. Its the only way. We all thougth the team would be better on paper but they had to go out and do it.

I have no problem with him. Nets on paper last year were decent but it was a disaster on the court. The guy is what he is, a personality with good knowledge of the game because he played at a high level. He made error with his comment on Shump.

It don't matter what he or anyone says. The team gets cred from being on the court and winning. Respect earned is better than respect given.

16-5 exceeds not our hopes but most of our projections.

knicks1248 wrote:

Charles Barkley retired as a player in 2000, and in the intervening dozen years visited the World's Most Famous Arena to watch the Knicks . . . once!?!

Why?

"Cause y'all's team stunk," he said. "Why would I go see y'all play? One thing about me is I'm not going to watch the bad teams play."

So, presumably it is a good sign that the TNT star -- for years the most visible Knicks skeptic on television -- will be at Madison Square Garden on Thursday for a rare appearance as a game analyst when the Lakers come to town.

And, get this: Unlike when he visited 23 months ago for a game against the Heat, at which time he pooh-poohed the notion the Knicks were "back," Sir Charles has been won over.

Mostly.

"I think they're a good team, and I think Jason Kidd has had a huge effect on Raymond Felton and J.R. Smith," Barkley he said Tuesday, before Kidd's latest heroics against the Nets. (Barkley was in Los Angeles taping a celebrity edition of "The Price is Right.")

"But when I look at their stats, they only out-rebounded the teams they've played like twice. That concerns me. And I don't know if they can keep shooting threes like that. That's my only critique. It's not a criticism, it's a critique."

Entering Wednesday night, the Knicks ranked third in the NBA in three-point field-goal percentage at .409 and 27th in rebounding differential at minus-3.8.

Hence Barkley's stance on the looming question for the Knicks: What to do with Amar'e Stoudemire?

"Even though they're winning, they are getting killed on the boards," he said. "So is he going to help them with the defense and rebounding or not? That's a very simple question for me."

Another key to the Knicks maintaining their momentum is keeping their older players healthy -- one older player above all others.

"Jason Kidd was the best leader we had in the NBA for a while when he was in New Jersey," Barkley said.

So how is he still doing this at age 39?

"He plays the game with his brain," Barkey said"

This will be Barkley's second foray into game analysis this season. "I like doing the games, because you get a little stagnant and bored in a studio," he said. "I like the action of the game."

Being courtside at the Garden could be interesting, because Knicks fans are well aware of his bluntly stated positions on their team.

"I think they will treat me fine; I think fans appreciate you being honest," he said. "First of all, I've been right. I don't say things because I don't like the Knicks. But they stunk."

Barkley insisted his motives are pure. "For me, it's never personal," he said. "It's always about basketball. I'm never going to have a hidden agenda."

Players don't always see it that way.

Monday night the Heat's LeBron James suggested Barkley "shut up" after Dwyane Wade bounced back with a strong game after Barkley suggested he was declining physically.

"Oh my God," Barkley said. "These guys are so sensitive."

Barkley conceded the Knicks' revival is good for the NBA, and will be even more so "if Brooklyn can ever keep that [Brook] Lopez kid healthy," for the sake of the teams' budding rivalry.

In the meantime, it's enough that the Knicks are better. Even Charles thinks so! Mostly.

"Everybody in New York thinks the Knicks are Playboy bunnies, and I have been telling them for years the Knicks are a rabbit," he said. "They're closer to a Playboy bunny this year but for the last few years these guys are like, 'We have a really good team!' And I say, 'You really think that?' And I say, 'No, they don't.' But this is the best team they've had in a while."

wtf barkley, a week ago it was the Nets

Listen never trust another MAN whom kisses a MAN in public view on the lips !
especially a referree & if other person is named Charles Barkey. Barkely at MSG Da Garden is = N/A
*LOL

NYKMentality wrote:If Barkley's calling tonights game, I'll have the game on mute instead call the game for me and my daughter play by play. Either that or play some music in the background. No way I'm listning to 3 hours of Barkley calling a KNICKS game.

good one!
lol
agreed

Chuckster needs to admit he's wrong about the Knicks

Nothing new with his act, move along.

If he hates the Knicks, he'd better hold that stance. He can take those backhanded compliments and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:Buck Farkley. He will get booed tonight, too.

If he hates the Knicks, he'd better hold that stance. He can take those backhanded compliments and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

lmao!!! easy buddy