Your government has no problem slaughtering civilians to advance their agenda. They've slaughtered civilians overseas, they've slaughtered civilians at home. Your government does not want you safe, they want you weak. That is why they funnel you into their government programs and they wage wars against terrorism and drugs. What is a couple of dozen civilians in the grand scheme of things to the monsters in charge of the shadow government?
There has never been anything like this spate of shootings, I wish people would not believe everything the media says. Obviously to me, this is part of getting our guns away from us.
Don't you all see the big plan?
Many have been blinded by their emotions of this horrible incident......which is exactly what they want and certainly why they chose kids this time. Disgusting!
Question everything.
I agree with Briggs' sentiment but I think regulation is the next step. Banning would be too extreme.
Re: Britain is a more violent nation. Well, you used a partial statistic and left off the most pertinent stat for this thread. The article states:
There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007. Experts say there are a number of reasons why violence is soaring in the UK. These include Labour's decision to relax the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock opening, which has led to a rise in the number of serious assaults taking place in the early hours of the morning.
And for a final statistic. I don't know where to check this out, but if it is true - wow - how can anyone argue against gun regulation:
playa2 wrote:Your government has no problem slaughtering civilians to advance their agenda. They've slaughtered civilians overseas, they've slaughtered civilians at home. Your government does not want you safe, they want you weak. That is why they funnel you into their government programs and they wage wars against terrorism and drugs. What is a couple of dozen civilians in the grand scheme of things to the monsters in charge of the shadow government?There has never been anything like this spate of shootings, I wish people would not believe everything the media says. Obviously to me, this is part of getting our guns away from us.
Don't you all see the big plan?
Many have been blinded by their emotions of this horrible incident......which is exactly what they want and certainly why they chose kids this time. Disgusting!
Question everything.
ooook, this is a part of the plot to take away our guns? That's why "they" chose kids?
That makes no sense, and I like to consider all possibilities(even conspiracy ones)
Looking at it from every angle is not a conspiracy theory, it's called critical thinking and its the reason we have truths that weren't supposed to be learned.
Adams brother Ryan was posting on his FB page friday noon. He was insisting that he was framed. He kept saying I WAS FRAMED. I WAS AT WORK. He also mentioned that the GOVT had seen his Youtube videos.
Vmart wrote:AnubisADL wrote:smackeddog wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Might as well ban sharp objects too.Even better, terminate people with mental illness in gas chambers.
People have been killing each other before guns existed. Banning guns isnt going to change anything.
You wouldn't have the number of casualties if the perpetrator was armed with a sharp object. Seriously, why do people need guns?
Guns are an equalizer. You got psychos out there.
I got finger printer and background checked when I got my carry concealed license.
What if your gun falls into the wrong hands or for that matter you wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Guns need to be banned there is absolutely no reason for civilians to have guns.
Wow. Bend over and kiss your butt goodbye! When the only ones carrying the guns are police and military, what are your chances to survive a totalitarian state?
ZERO.
That is the end game here. Be Warned.
VCoug wrote:playa2 wrote:Your government has no problem slaughtering civilians to advance their agenda. They've slaughtered civilians overseas, they've slaughtered civilians at home. Your government does not want you safe, they want you weak. That is why they funnel you into their government programs and they wage wars against terrorism and drugs. What is a couple of dozen civilians in the grand scheme of things to the monsters in charge of the shadow government?There has never been anything like this spate of shootings, I wish people would not believe everything the media says. Obviously to me, this is part of getting our guns away from us.
Don't you all see the big plan?
Many have been blinded by their emotions of this horrible incident......which is exactly what they want and certainly why they chose kids this time. Disgusting!
Question everything.
Shadow government?
Yes shadow govt,
An analogy might be to a sinking ship, in which some want to build and equip lifeboats and others who want to make sure they are the ones who get to go in them. Each needs the other, for the time being, but the latter are beginning to threaten the production and seaworthiness of the lifeboats.
What we have is in many ways a classic oligarchy, with multiple components in an uneasy alliance with one another. No one individual is paramount, and anyone can be replaced if he gets too far out of line, by some combination of the others, each of whom derives his power from the institutions and assets under his influence.
Of course, the ones who get trampled under this regime are the ordinary people, who receive just enough under the deal to keep them quiet. The Powers That Be fear above all that the people might rise up and overthrow them, something that the people could still do if they could ever act in concert. Social control therefore becomes a matter of keeping them placated, divided, and misinformed.
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Vmart wrote:AnubisADL wrote:smackeddog wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Might as well ban sharp objects too.Even better, terminate people with mental illness in gas chambers.
People have been killing each other before guns existed. Banning guns isnt going to change anything.
You wouldn't have the number of casualties if the perpetrator was armed with a sharp object. Seriously, why do people need guns?
Guns are an equalizer. You got psychos out there.
I got finger printer and background checked when I got my carry concealed license.
What if your gun falls into the wrong hands or for that matter you wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Guns need to be banned there is absolutely no reason for civilians to have guns.
Wow. Bend over and kiss your butt goodbye! When the only ones carrying the guns are police and military, what are your chances to survive a totalitarian state?
ZERO.
That is the end game here. Be Warned.
You're crazy if you think that stockpiling some guns in your basement would stop the government if they actually wanted to institute a totalitarian state. Your guns wouldn't have a shot against tanks, warships, and air bombers.
MaTT4281 wrote:My favorite response is that those sick individuals "will find a way anyways". Well, let's at least make it a little more difficult. Maybe not banned entirely, but certainly some heightened regulations. I spent 4 years in Texas, and unfortunately know too many people with guns that should not be allowed to own. I'm almost afraid to check up on them and see what they've been up to after 1.5 years. If it saves one innocent life, it's worth it.
IN GEORGIa, everyone I know has guns.. my friend carries his gun all of the time, one day he forgot and left it in my car, and my son found it when he took my car out for a drive.... thank god he did and not my 10 year old daughter... just way too many guns on the street, but even more crazy people it seems... people kill people..
VCoug wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Vmart wrote:AnubisADL wrote:smackeddog wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Might as well ban sharp objects too.Even better, terminate people with mental illness in gas chambers.
People have been killing each other before guns existed. Banning guns isnt going to change anything.
You wouldn't have the number of casualties if the perpetrator was armed with a sharp object. Seriously, why do people need guns?
Guns are an equalizer. You got psychos out there.
I got finger printer and background checked when I got my carry concealed license.
What if your gun falls into the wrong hands or for that matter you wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Guns need to be banned there is absolutely no reason for civilians to have guns.
Wow. Bend over and kiss your butt goodbye! When the only ones carrying the guns are police and military, what are your chances to survive a totalitarian state?
ZERO.
That is the end game here. Be Warned.
You're crazy if you think that stockpiling some guns in your basement would stop the government if they actually wanted to institute a totalitarian state. Your guns wouldn't have a shot against tanks, warships, and air bombers.
You're crazy to think that is not the desired outcome. Wake up. China is even calling for tighter gun control in the US. I wonder why?
Your attitude is exactly what needs to be vanquished. The tired, weak, manipulated and subjective mass. The US Govt already has kill lists of American citizens. Each little freedom that is taken away is not given back.
AnubisADL wrote:smackeddog wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Might as well ban sharp objects too.Even better, terminate people with mental illness in gas chambers.
People have been killing each other before guns existed. Banning guns isnt going to change anything.
You wouldn't have the number of casualties if the perpetrator was armed with a sharp object. Seriously, why do people need guns?
Guns are an equalizer. You got psychos out there.
I got finger printer and background checked when I got my carry concealed license.
You got finger printed? And that makes you less of a psycho??? Totally agree with Briggs. The solutions to Psychos is NOT providing them with means to acquire automatic weapons. I hate people who think their right to own weapons is more important than innocent kids being shot to death. There is no excuse for this insanity.
NYKMentality wrote:
You will never be able to eliminate guns in America. When an evil killer want's a gun? They'll get a gun. You don't take away the freedom of a man looking to protect his family due to evil people using guns.
Freedom of a man is enhanced by making it easy for every asshole and douchebag out there to be armed to the teeth?
Exactly how many homes have ever been protected against violent crimes by using guns on premises? Is there any data that backs up this claim??
All evil people don't own guns but guns are easily accessible if they want them!
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:VCoug wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Vmart wrote:AnubisADL wrote:smackeddog wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Might as well ban sharp objects too.Even better, terminate people with mental illness in gas chambers.
People have been killing each other before guns existed. Banning guns isnt going to change anything.
You wouldn't have the number of casualties if the perpetrator was armed with a sharp object. Seriously, why do people need guns?
Guns are an equalizer. You got psychos out there.
I got finger printer and background checked when I got my carry concealed license.
What if your gun falls into the wrong hands or for that matter you wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Guns need to be banned there is absolutely no reason for civilians to have guns.
Wow. Bend over and kiss your butt goodbye! When the only ones carrying the guns are police and military, what are your chances to survive a totalitarian state?
ZERO.
That is the end game here. Be Warned.
You're crazy if you think that stockpiling some guns in your basement would stop the government if they actually wanted to institute a totalitarian state. Your guns wouldn't have a shot against tanks, warships, and air bombers.
You're crazy to think that is not the desired outcome. Wake up. China is even calling for tighter gun control in the US. I wonder why? Your attitude is exactly what needs to be vanquished. The tired, weak, manipulated and subjective mass. The US Govt already has kill lists of American citizens. Each little freedom that is taken away is not given back.
This isn't Red Dawn, you and the rest of the weekend warriors aren't the last line of defense once the tanks start rolling in. These masturbatory fantasies are ridiculous and aren't evidence to support gun rights.
Hmm, so from reading this thread I guess the real reason people want to own a gun is paranoia!
smackeddog wrote:Hmm, so from reading this thread I guess the real reason people want to own a gun is paranoia!
That is why mental illness needs to be taken more seriously
gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:Hmm, so from reading this thread I guess the real reason people want to own a gun is paranoia!
That is why more attention illness needs to be taken more seriously
You may not be the best poster here but I think you should be allowed in the US
foosballnick wrote:Gunsnewing.....Excellent angle that I never considered before. Regular Gun owner "inspection" would certainly be a game changer and could prevent many crimes. Wpuld also add that one of the inspections needs to be psychological evaluation. The obstacle to this is the NRA lobby. They don't want anything related to guns touched in any way. The problem is ownership was made a constitutional right at the time when people needed guns to protect themselves during war time with the British Army and to hunt for food. That constitutional right does not transfer so well into today's society with millions of people living in close proximity, weapons of mass destruction and supermarkets.
They were not only used for game hunting and against the British... or the French up north and Spanish down south. But I believe the real "enemy" well-regulated militias were to defend against were the American Indians tribes and nations the colonists displaced and were warring against until the early 20th century. It's in this context the amendment makes the most sense. The idea was a standing army was a dangerous forerunner to tyranny, certainly when coupled with an unarmed citizenry, and this nation would instead be able to activate "well-regulated" militias to defend against Indian "raids".
