holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:There are probably at least 15 or 20 PGs in the league who could do what Felton does and shoot a higher percentage. With Chandler you just have to be able to drive and throw the ball anywhere within a 2 or 3 foot radius and Chandler will put it in. It helps when you have several guys hitting 40% of their 3s also. We have Felton because we didn't have the money available to get a better PG. He's not awful by any means. Clearly guys like Bibby, Douglas, and and Davis couldn't do last year what Felton does but he doesn't have any admirable unique abilities either.
Name them...
Let's just say more than half of the starting PGs in the league.
Anji wrote:LOL, i only said that because of that hijacking thread. I don't care about tangent Novack talk, but how is Felton a part of the convo??!!(Guns going off the deep end Linsanity I know.
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My original response in this thread was about Novak. I'm not sure how Felton and Lin came into the discussion
holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
Apples and Oranges....shouldn't even mention both players in the same breath.
Anji wrote:LOL, i only said that because of that hijacking thread. I don't care about tangent Novack talk, but how is Felton a part of the convo??!!(Guns going off the deep end Linsanity I know.)
He got into the conversation when I pointed out that his bad games hurt the team at least as much as Novak's do.
Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Bonn1997 wrote:Anji wrote:LOL, i only said that because of that hijacking thread. I don't care about tangent Novack talk, but how is Felton a part of the convo??!!(Guns going off the deep end Linsanity I know.)
He got into the conversation when I pointed out that his bad games hurt the team at least as much as Novak's do.
The thing is, Novak's production is replaceable on this very roster...We don't have to look far and wide...Dude is listed at 6' 10" and grabbing 2 boards per 25 mins...Can't shoot over Nate Robinson...
holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Anji wrote:LOL, i only said that because of that hijacking thread. I don't care about tangent Novack talk, but how is Felton a part of the convo??!!(Guns going off the deep end Linsanity I know.)
He got into the conversation when I pointed out that his bad games hurt the team at least as much as Novak's do.
The thing is, Novak's production is replaceable on this very roster...We don't have to look far and wide...Dude is listed at 6' 10" and grabbing 2 boards per 25 mins...Can't shoot over Nate Robinson...
That's what I was talking about. Could the team be stronger if we traded Novack and gave Copeland 15 minutes a night?
I'm pretty sure he'll give us what Novack produces. Plus we could add a better fitting role player.
holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Anji wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Anji wrote:LOL, i only said that because of that hijacking thread. I don't care about tangent Novack talk, but how is Felton a part of the convo??!!(Guns going off the deep end Linsanity I know.)
He got into the conversation when I pointed out that his bad games hurt the team at least as much as Novak's do.
The thing is, Novak's production is replaceable on this very roster...We don't have to look far and wide...Dude is listed at 6' 10" and grabbing 2 boards per 25 mins...Can't shoot over Nate Robinson...
That's what I was talking about. Could the team be stronger if we traded Novack and gave Copeland 15 minutes a night?
I'm pretty sure he'll give us what Novack produces. Plus we could add a better fitting role player.
I think you're selling Novak very short.
His value isn't his points, it's the potential of those points.
Teams aren't gameplanning for Copeland, Novak is in their scouting report.
gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.
And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
Anji wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Anji wrote:LOL, i only said that because of that hijacking thread. I don't care about tangent Novack talk, but how is Felton a part of the convo??!!(Guns going off the deep end Linsanity I know.)
He got into the conversation when I pointed out that his bad games hurt the team at least as much as Novak's do.
The thing is, Novak's production is replaceable on this very roster...We don't have to look far and wide...Dude is listed at 6' 10" and grabbing 2 boards per 25 mins...Can't shoot over Nate Robinson...
That's what I was talking about. Could the team be stronger if we traded Novack and gave Copeland 15 minutes a night?
I'm pretty sure he'll give us what Novack produces. Plus we could add a better fitting role player.
To be fair, I do think Novak has a role with this team...I think Woody is running him out there for long periods isn't a good thing...He is too much of a defensive liability to play 30 mins a night...We are getting killed on the boards and he can't help...I would like to see him split time with Copeland at this point...When the playoffs come and defenses tighten, Novak can't help us...
knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
Yup Felt the Knicks were having a great off-season up until Dolan's hissy fit. Lin penetrates as much if not more than Felton and he has better court vision. In his time here he got guys like Novak and JR much easier shots than they are getting now from Felton
gunsnewing wrote:knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
Yup Felt the Knicks were having a great off-season up until Dolan's hissy fit. Lin penetrates as much if not more than Felton and he has better court vision. In his time here he got guys like Novak and JR much easier shots than they are getting now from Felton
I think the healthy competition would have been great, but that wouldn't have been my reason for keeping Lin.
Both him and Felton would be a Clipper by the trade deadline, and whatever other peice need to make the deal happen.
knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
I don't see it as being so obvious..Five games ago, Felton was being talked about as an all star while Lin was minutes reduced to play Toney Douglas...
knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
Yup Felt the Knicks were having a great off-season up until Dolan's hissy fit. Lin penetrates as much if not more than Felton and he has better court vision. In his time here he got guys like Novak and JR much easier shots than they are getting now from Felton
I think the healthy competition would have been great, but that wouldn't have been my reason for keeping Lin.Both him and Felton would be a Clipper by the trade deadline, and whatever other peice need to make the deal happen.
I was hoping to see Lin with Kidd as his mentor. With Prigs fitting in nicely as insurance
holfresh wrote:knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
I don't see it as being so obvious..Five games ago, Felton was being talked about as an all star while Lin was minutes reduced to play Toney Douglas...
So when is Woodson gonna reduce Feltons minutes?
gunsnewing wrote:knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
Yup Felt the Knicks were having a great off-season up until Dolan's hissy fit. Lin penetrates as much if not more than Felton and he has better court vision. In his time here he got guys like Novak and JR much easier shots than they are getting now from Felton
I think the healthy competition would have been great, but that wouldn't have been my reason for keeping Lin.Both him and Felton would be a Clipper by the trade deadline, and whatever other peice need to make the deal happen.
I was hoping to see Lin with Kidd as his mentor. With Prigs fitting in nicely as insurance
Cool, no issues with that.
knickscity wrote:holfresh wrote:knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
I don't see it as being so obvious..Five games ago, Felton was being talked about as an all star while Lin was minutes reduced to play Toney Douglas...
So when is Woodson gonna reduce Feltons minutes?
I guarantee you we would not have the same record if Lin was the PG given the year he has had thus far...
knickscity wrote:holfresh wrote:knickscity wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Right according to Clyde Felton is an allstar
Felton is very instrumental to where we are right now...How are u missing this fact...
I think we are on separate wave lengths. I think we are where we are despite Felton. We're here mainly because of Melo, Kidd, Chandler, JR and the biggest culprit of all Mike Woodson
Two wave lengths is correct...U don't see it's Felton play that has help Chandler and JKidd and getting Brewer open looks...U don't have to believe me..U can listen to the post game commentary of Hahn and Wally...
Sure, but most starting PGs get open looks for their teammates. He's not doing anything special or unreplaceable.
U say that now that he is having a bad run of things...Who else do u think was attainable that could replace his production???...Who doesn't want Chris Paul or Tony Parker...But at some point reality has to set in...
Lin. Who just so happens to be having another good game tonight. Houston with a lead over Memphis
Shouldn't be any argument here, we could have had the same exact team and kept Lin.And I don't like Lin as a basketball player, but can't deny the obvious.
I don't see it as being so obvious..Five games ago, Felton was being talked about as an all star while Lin was minutes reduced to play Toney Douglas...
So when is Woodson gonna reduce Feltons minutes?
He already has. Felton hasn't been on the floor the last few 4th quarters. He was inserted in the game last night after JR fouled out and Melo was ejected. Hopefully the garbage time layups he picked up will help him get out of the funk he is in somewhat
