Woodson needs to do something about this. Kidd also.
Knicks need a protector for Melo. Ewing had Oakley. Laimbeer and Mahorn used to try to get under Ewings skin and Oak would not have any of it.
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
But really, Sheed could have probably help control this game a little better, just because KG won't mess with crazy-er
Eh, I think you kids are blowing one game way out of proportion, as usual.
NUPE wrote:Eh, I think you kids are blowing one game way out of proportion, as usual.
I'd normally agree but this is kind of a trend. The Knicks allow themselves to loose their cool. It might not matter over 82, but come playoff time the game is all about executing under pressure and tough D.
From what I understand KG said something to Melo about his wife. At least that's what someone tweeted. Completely took Melo out of his game. Yes, he was shooting poorly before, but he made some really bad choices after things got heated. Hopefully their next game in Boston he goes off.
MSG3 wrote:NUPE wrote:Eh, I think you kids are blowing one game way out of proportion, as usual.
I'd normally agree but this is kind of a trend. The Knicks allow themselves to loose their cool. It might not matter over 82, but come playoff time the game is all about executing under pressure and tough D.
From what I understand KG said something to Melo about his wife. At least that's what someone tweeted. Completely took Melo out of his game. Yes, he was shooting poorly before, but he made some really bad choices after things got heated. Hopefully their next game in Boston he goes off.
I have only seen Melo react as he did once - last night - as a Knick. As for it being a trend, I don't see that being a case. The only trend I have seen is bad defense and that has nothing to do with the Knicks losing their cool.
NUPE wrote:Eh, I think you kids are blowing one game way out of proportion, as usual.
TOTALLY. Melo was having a bad game way before they started going at each other in the 4th. Hell, Melo looking in the 4th quarter like someone stole his favorite Kitten. Dude looked about as intense as a snail and if anything KG woke his ass up. Dude's head was never in the game yesterday.
People will say he simply had a poor shooting night but, look back at the 1st quarter, he looked tentative and uninspired from the very start.
NUPE wrote:MSG3 wrote:NUPE wrote:Eh, I think you kids are blowing one game way out of proportion, as usual.
I'd normally agree but this is kind of a trend. The Knicks allow themselves to loose their cool. It might not matter over 82, but come playoff time the game is all about executing under pressure and tough D.
From what I understand KG said something to Melo about his wife. At least that's what someone tweeted. Completely took Melo out of his game. Yes, he was shooting poorly before, but he made some really bad choices after things got heated. Hopefully their next game in Boston he goes off.
I have only seen Melo react as he did once - last night - as a Knick. As for it being a trend, I don't see that being a case. The only trend I have seen is bad defense and that has nothing to do with the Knicks losing their cool.
Not talking about Melo specifically. Talking about the team. In many games where things have not gone their way they loose their temper. It is definitely a trend.
Perimeter D suhucked on both sides. Is that mental? Both teams stood around watching the ball move.
Yes, Melo's 29ppg thin skin. Big problem to solve.
Caseloads wrote:Woodson needs to do something about this. Kidd also.
Woodson should start with cutting back on the whining himself. In a lot of the previous game where we lost our poise, Woodson was picking up techs along with our players. If he remains calm himself, it'd probably be easier to get the players to follow.
You beat the knicks by playing physical.... The word is out....
The bulls and Memphis got respect. Nothing wrong with how they played us. Garnett cruises three line....that's all i have to say. There is physical play and trash talk then there is crossing the line.....
Knicks need to protect the paint and melo better
NYKBocker wrote:Knicks need a protector for Melo. Ewing had Oakley. Laimbeer and Mahorn used to try to get under Ewings skin and Oak would not have any of it.
This is huge imo and speaks volumes about his teammates.
Every teams best player should have a tough guy, that's got his back. We can't have our best player, being the only guy taking exception to hard fouls, cheap shots, etc. This team can't afford him getting suspended, not when we're supposed to be fighting for home-court throughout the playoffs.
The closest thing we have is Chandler, who was punked by Vince Carter earlier this year. Amare gets pushed around by small fowards, so it falls on Melo. A guy who before be came to NY, I thought, was a sissy (remember Nate chasing him back to his bench?).
I'll be so happy if Shumpert can come back with fire... Somebody else who will get in your face and plays relentless defense. He can at the very least return the favor to opposing teams, taking some of that pressure off Melo.
Wow, dude looked totally checked out. If anyone has it on DVR (like I do) go back and take a look. Something was wrong with him even before the game stared.
EnySpree wrote:You beat the knicks by playing physical.... The word is out....The bulls and Memphis got respect. Nothing wrong with how they played us. Garnett cruises three line....that's all i have to say. There is physical play and trash talk then there is crossing the line.....
Knicks need to protect the paint and melo better
This is a copycat league. Other teams have 2 recipes to beat the Knicks.
1. Rebound and Run them to death. This is the Rocket formula.
2. Play physical and trash talk. You will get them off their game.
its not about the teams success this year and the lapse maybe a symptom of the intensity, which is ok at times but lets be real here, teams will antaganize him going forward and maybe Woodson has to tell him when he is "man on fire" he comes out.
StarMelo has to understand his star status is not being a tough guy, its to stab loud mouth KG in the heart by clutch shooting and icewater in his veins.
If we are to survive and move beyond one playoff series where sames teams go at it, its going to get personal and nasty.
The whole thing as "Sheed as protector" to me is a fable. Sheed would be escalating not protecting.
Would make for better drama.
Bottom line Celts minus Rondo beat us at home. Bottom line is we lost a game. A home game against a divisional opponent.
Celts tried this against BKN and they did not back down (in november). Im not saying the nets are better fellas, but the only way to stand up to a bully is to dig your heals in. Make clutch shots, play hard defense and don't get sucked into the emotional fray.
Sorry, StarMelo was a diva last nite. KG is a mean man who will smell the fear and attack. Wipe the smile off of melo and maybe he loses his cool. if that was their plan, it worked.
1. Glad to see the rivalry rekindled.
2. Lets see how Melo reacts next time.
Im rooting for the kid channel his inner Bernard King or inner Clyde. "Be Cool!"
Drug problem?
DurzoBlint wrote:Wow, dude looked totally checked out. If anyone has it on DVR (like I do) go back and take a look. Something was wrong with him even before the game stared.
"Totally checked out" and missing too many layups.
Who, other than Marcus Camby, stalks a team bus?
jrodmc wrote:Perimeter D suhucked on both sides. Is that mental? Both teams stood around watching the ball move.Yes, Melo's 29ppg thin skin. Big problem to solve.
yup... you just saw last year's playoffs repeat themselves. Im sure this year will be different though. After Boston beats us in the 2-7 matchup you can blame Woody's bad offense, Amare's lack of rebounding and Chandler's lack of a post game for another Melo first round exit. More of the same. Now we need a Melo protector. Good stuff.
He had one bad game against the Celtics with 4 more to go. Lets see what happens before we overreact and call him soft.
DurzoBlint wrote:People will say he simply had a poor shooting night but, look back at the 1st quarter, he looked tentative and uninspired from the very start.
yep falls right in line with his pregame comments about the C's
TeamBall wrote:Caseloads wrote:Woodson needs to do something about this. Kidd also.
Woodson should start with cutting back on the whining himself. In a lot of the previous game where we lost our poise, Woodson was picking up techs along with our players. If he remains calm himself, it'd probably be easier to get the players to follow.
This. Memphis, Houston, Chicago and now Boston. Definite trend
