http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/17/all-s...East starters: Rondo Wade Lebro Melo Garnett
West starters: Paul Kobe Durant Griffin Howard
Melo received the 2nd most votes in the East, behind Lebron, and the 4th most votes in the league behind Durant and Kobe. Tyson finished in 5th for frontcourt players behind the 3 starters and Chris Bosh; Amare finished 11th behind Pierce, Noah, Josh Smith, Battier, and Varejao; Felton finished 7th in the voting for backcourt players behind Wade, Rondo, Deron, Irving, Ray Allen, and Monta. For anyone wondering, Lin, unsurprisingly, received way too many votes and finished about 46,000 votes behind Chris Paul for 3rd in backcourt voting.
The only changes I would make would be to swap Wade out for Kyrie Irving and Howard out for Marc Gasol/ZBo/Aldridge/Duncan/Asik/Ibaka, pretty much any other big man who received votes in the West.
Yea i voted for Kyrie as well over Wade. Would vote jrue holiday over wade too
I feel for Tyson. Tyson should have gotten the start over KG and I'm not basing that on my overall dislike for KG.
Looks like the TNT guys agree too. He should make it to the reserves without question.
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/allsta...
Not sure Tyson makes it over Noah. He does beat out Brook Lopez though
Tyson definitely should have made it over KG
MinsHeartsReezy wrote:I feel for Tyson. Tyson should have gotten the start over KG and I'm not basing that on my overall dislike for KG. Looks like the TNT guys agree too. He should make it to the reserves without question.
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/allsta...
I'm not sure that he'll make the team at all (I'm also not sure that I want him to; I think I'd rather he get that whole weekend off to recuperate). There are four spots left and he'll be competing with Pierce, Lopez, Noah, Deng, Paul George, Chris Bosh, Josh Smith, and Horford. Out of those 9 players I think that Pierce and Noah are virtual locks and I think Bosh is almost guaranteed a spot as well. That leaves him competing with Lopez, Dent, George, Smith, and Horford for the last spot. It's certainly not impossible that he'd make it but I think the odds are stacked against him.
He should make ahead of all those 9 players but he probably won't since mainstream folk care so much about PPG.
Shouldn't he make it if the coaches pick the reserves.
Bonn1997 wrote:He should make ahead of all those 9 players but he probably won't since mainstream folk care so much about PPG.
true but don't you think Noah has a better case?
The coaches tend to lean more by the teams overall record, think bosh and tyson should be a lock
Bonn1997 wrote:Tyson definitely should have made it over KG
I agree.
Chandler: 12.4 points, 10.9 boards (6th overall) and 1.0 blocks per game. A FG % of .672 (1st overall). The Knicks are 25-13. Player Efficiency Rating of 21.51.
Garnett: 14.6 points, 7.0 boards (38th overall) and 0.8 blocks per game. A FG % of .511 (24th overall). The Celtics are 20-18. Player Efficiency Rating of 18.69.
Tyson Chandler, without question, deserves a spot on this years all-star team. Tyson Chandler is on another level when compared to K.G as of right now.
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:He should make ahead of all those 9 players but he probably won't since mainstream folk care so much about PPG.
true but don't you think Noah has a better case?
That's what I was thinking. I can't put together a realistic scenario where Tyson makes the team and Noah doesn't. My AllStar starting lineup would be Rondo-Kyrie-Lebron-Melo-Noah. And, if I'm being completely honest, the only reason we're having this discussion is because Varejao is hurt. If he were healthy I don't think Tyson would have a chance of being selected.
yea but Chicago has the 3rd best record and they are without Rose. I think Noah and Bosh get in
NYKMentality wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Tyson definitely should have made it over KG
I agree.
Chandler: 12.4 points, 10.9 boards (6th overall) and 1.0 blocks per game. A FG % of .672 (1st overall). The Knicks are 25-13. Player Efficiency Rating of 21.51.
Garnett: 14.6 points, 7.0 boards (38th overall) and 0.8 blocks per game. A FG % of .511 (24th overall). The Celtics are 20-18. Player Efficiency Rating of 18.69.
Tyson Chandler, without question, deserves a spot on this years all-star team. Tyson Chandler is on another level when compared to K.G as of right now.
For comparison
Noah : 12.4 points, 10.7 boards (7th overall) and 2.0 blocks per game. A FG % 0.456 of (54th overall). The Bulls are 22-15 and 2nd in their division. Player Efficiency Rating 17.12
FYI these rankings are among centers.
Guns, you have a valid argument that the Bulls are 2nd in their division without Rose and Noah is playing well for them. My question would be: where would we be without Chandler?
The Bulls have owned us 3 times this season already, I'll give you that for sure. However, we have a slightly better record having played teams of a similar caliber ( based on avg win % of opponents) and we've yet to have a completely healthy team either.
It seems Tyson would have the edge going by stats alone but it may be like last year where he was voted DPOY but didn't make all-defensive 1st team. We'll see I guess. It's just strange that most would venture to say he should start for the East but then it be questionable for him to make the reserves.
gunsnewing wrote:yea but Chicago has the 3rd best record and they are without Rose. I think Noah and Bosh get in
I think they're 4th but they're only behind the pacers by one game which is basically the same anyway
MinsHeartsReezy wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yea but Chicago has the 3rd best record and they are without Rose. I think Noah and Bosh get in
I think they're 4th but they're only behind the pacers by one game which is basically the same anyway
They are 4th but Chicago has a better record
I thought Noah had better numbers. Looking at Tyson's numbers again he should get in over Noah based on record. I have a feeling Bosh will get it though defending champion etc
MinsHeartsReezy wrote:NYKMentality wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Tyson definitely should have made it over KG
I agree.
Chandler: 12.4 points, 10.9 boards (6th overall) and 1.0 blocks per game. A FG % of .672 (1st overall). The Knicks are 25-13. Player Efficiency Rating of 21.51.
Garnett: 14.6 points, 7.0 boards (38th overall) and 0.8 blocks per game. A FG % of .511 (24th overall). The Celtics are 20-18. Player Efficiency Rating of 18.69.
Tyson Chandler, without question, deserves a spot on this years all-star team. Tyson Chandler is on another level when compared to K.G as of right now.
For comparison
Noah : 12.4 points, 10.7 boards (7th overall) and 2.0 blocks per game. A FG % 0.456 of (54th overall). The Bulls are 22-15 and 2nd in their division. Player Efficiency Rating 17.12
FYI these rankings are among centers.
Guns, you have a valid argument that the Bulls are 2nd in their division without Rose and Noah is playing well for them. My question would be: where would we be without Chandler?
The Bulls have owned us 3 times this season already, I'll give you that for sure. However, we have a slightly better record having played teams of a similar caliber ( based on avg win % of opponents) and we've yet to have a completely healthy team either.
It seems Tyson would have the edge going by stats alone but it may be like last year where he was voted DPOY but didn't make all-defensive 1st team. We'll see I guess. It's just strange that most would venture to say he should start for the East but then it be questionable for him to make the reserves.
Well put
How does Dwight Howard do all the c**p he did last season, and then under perform on a greatly under performing team, yet still get voted as a starter on the western all star team?!
smackeddog wrote:How does Dwight Howard do all the c**p he did last season, and then under perform on a greatly under performing team, yet still get voted as a starter on the western all star team?!
same reason Vince Carters first game of the year was the Allstar Game. Most fans are too stupid to be allowed to vote the starters. They (the fans) should Vote in the reserves.
Coaches aren't likely to vote someone in based on previous seasons like fans will so we'd be more likely to have guys that have earned it manning the starting spots.
