Knicks · Shump comparison... (page 4)

Iman, the new GP:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

So now Im a troll? Thats rich.Im the one that brought up comparing Shump to Payton.

cooch2584 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

So now Im a troll? Thats rich.Im the one that brought up comparing Shump to Payton.

As long as Martin and Andrew dont call me a troll,what you guys say dont mean jack.LOL

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Anji wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Don't have a problem with him disagreeing. Problem is with his troll post with CAPS on individuals like Durzo and me. That is why I have him on ignore. Kinda stuff that will get you banned if caught. Unnecessary and adds nothing to the discuss but trouble

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Don't have a problem with him disagreeing. Problem is with his troll post with CAPS on individuals like Durzo and me. That is why I have him on ignore. Kinda stuff that will get you banned if caught. Unnecessary and adds nothing to the discuss but trouble

I never said nothing about JR and Kobe.Where did that come from? Yes guns you have a problem with anyone disagreeing with your posts. Already talked to the mods and they havent warned me guns so Im sure your disappointed. But then again you have me on ignore,but still read my posts and comment on them,so whos the troll here guns?

cooch2584 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Don't have a problem with him disagreeing. Problem is with his troll post with CAPS on individuals like Durzo and me. That is why I have him on ignore. Kinda stuff that will get you banned if caught. Unnecessary and adds nothing to the discuss but trouble

I never said nothing about JR and Kobe.Where did that come from? Yes guns you have a problem with anyone disagreeing with your posts. Already talked to the mods and they havent warned me guns so Im sure your disappointed. But then again you have me on ignore,but still read my posts and comment on them,so whos the troll here guns?

Of course all I hear from guns is crickets because it has been pointed out that he has me on ignore and still lurks at my posts and responds to them.Classic troll move guns.

cooch2584 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Don't have a problem with him disagreeing. Problem is with his troll post with CAPS on individuals like Durzo and me. That is why I have him on ignore. Kinda stuff that will get you banned if caught. Unnecessary and adds nothing to the discuss but trouble

I never said nothing about JR and Kobe.Where did that come from? Yes guns you have a problem with anyone disagreeing with your posts. Already talked to the mods and they havent warned me guns so Im sure your disappointed. But then again you have me on ignore,but still read my posts and comment on them,so whos the troll here guns?

The Jr/Kobe thing has nothing to do with this.

I see your point guns, but instead of leaving at that I will troll you about putting people on ignore.

Anji wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Don't have a problem with him disagreeing. Problem is with his troll post with CAPS on individuals like Durzo and me. That is why I have him on ignore. Kinda stuff that will get you banned if caught. Unnecessary and adds nothing to the discuss but trouble

I never said nothing about JR and Kobe.Where did that come from? Yes guns you have a problem with anyone disagreeing with your posts. Already talked to the mods and they havent warned me guns so Im sure your disappointed. But then again you have me on ignore,but still read my posts and comment on them,so whos the troll here guns?

The Jr/Kobe thing has nothing to do with this.

I see your point guns, but instead of leaving at that I will troll you about putting people on ignore.

OK I'm moving on

cooch2584 wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Don't have a problem with him disagreeing. Problem is with his troll post with CAPS on individuals like Durzo and me. That is why I have him on ignore. Kinda stuff that will get you banned if caught. Unnecessary and adds nothing to the discuss but trouble

I never said nothing about JR and Kobe.Where did that come from? Yes guns you have a problem with anyone disagreeing with your posts. Already talked to the mods and they havent warned me guns so Im sure your disappointed. But then again you have me on ignore,but still read my posts and comment on them,so whos the troll here guns?

Of course all I hear from guns is crickets because it has been pointed out that he has me on ignore and still lurks at my posts and responds to them.Classic troll move guns.

cooch2584, stop, why can't you stick to basketball?

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I don't see Spree in Shump. I do see a jacked up Gary Payton. The Glove 2.0 would be great.

I see Shump's potential as Gary Payton on steroids as well.

He can have a similar effect on Defense but, looking at his physical mannerisms, I don't see any Gary Payton there.

Physical mannerisms?? HUH?

what, you've never heard the term before? What about body language? They way someone walks, stands, they way they carry themselves i.e.: Physical mannerisms.

Thats a good way to compare Shump and the Glove(green font rolling my eyes)

you seem to have misread what I wrote because I said he seems more like Spree. You obviously have no familiarity with the term which isn't rare and is a real term but, I guess it depends on the circles one travels.

So Shump hasta,walk,stand and carry himself like payton to play the game like payton?? BIZARRO WORLD LOL YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?

DAMN MAN, chill out. All I said was I thought his body language was more like Spree. What is your problem, its called an opinion.

OK WHATEVER LOL

now your just trolling me. Get a life

He did the same to me. I put him on ignore. Never had used the feature before. Came in handy although I can still see his posts when he is quoted but better than nothing

LOL, this reminds of that JR Smith/Kobe Skills comments.........love the consistency guns, shouldn't be on Cooches side/Pov.

Don't have a problem with him disagreeing. Problem is with his troll post with CAPS on individuals like Durzo and me. That is why I have him on ignore. Kinda stuff that will get you banned if caught. Unnecessary and adds nothing to the discuss but trouble

I never said nothing about JR and Kobe.Where did that come from? Yes guns you have a problem with anyone disagreeing with your posts. Already talked to the mods and they havent warned me guns so Im sure your disappointed. But then again you have me on ignore,but still read my posts and comment on them,so whos the troll here guns?

The Jr/Kobe thing has nothing to do with this.

I see your point guns, but instead of leaving at that I will troll you about putting people on ignore.

OK I'm moving on

OH, OH, OH so now we moving on.

All I hear is crickets bra!!!!!

Seriously though, I think Shumps is 1 of 1, he uses his physical ability, but he isn't that physical to me.

Martin,I was called a troll yet guns said that Im on ignore but he still reads my posts and comments on them. Isnt this troll behavior? I am sticking to basketball, talking about Shump and Payton and all I get is that Im a troll.

cooch2584 wrote:Martin,I was called a troll yet guns said that Im on ignore but he still reads my posts and comments on them. Isnt this troll behavior? I am sticking to basketball, talking about Shump and Payton and all I get is that Im a troll.

Basketball, I am tired of asking, thanks.

Shump reminds me of Larry Hughes on offense. I remember Hughes was plugged in as a point guard early in his career and he faltered. He moved to shooting guard, but still had to learn when to shoot, drive etc. By the time he got to the Wizards, Hughes became a quality two-guard. I think Shump works harder and will have a shorter learning curve, but I see the similarities. Defensivley, Shump reminds of a young Gary Payton/Derek Harper. I love the fact that opposing guards dread facing him. I also like the fact that he's able to get steals without gambling.

I would bet that Shump looks at a lot of film of players and I bet he looks how the great defenders,ie clyde,payton etc took the ball away from guards just by tipping it and going after it hard.

Hughes is another good one but he was a volume scorer. A volume shooter who shot too much, a chucker. Shump plays within the offensive confines of Melo and Amare and his jumpshot will only get better. Shump also has a higher ceiling as a stronger defender

gunsnewing wrote:Hughes is another good one but he was a volume scorer. A volume shooter who shot too much. Shump plays within the offensive confines of Melo and Amare and his jumpshot will only get better. Shump also has a higher ceiling as a stronger defender

True and I hope that playing Kidd and Prigs only accelerates his basketball IQ.

The reaction time of an offensive guard having the ball tipped away from him is too slow compared to the reaction time of a defensive guard tipping the ball away and going after that loose ball. Not to mention the feeling the offensive guard gets once that ball is taken away from him.Its all in the head.IMHO there are very few guards,ex westbrook,kobe,rose that wont let a steal by the defensive guard play into their minds.

I think Shumpert is a new breed of defender, he hasn't grown up with the arm bar and hand checking. He is physical with being physical.

Coming out of college I thought Westbrook or Wade but I think he's closer to Iguodala

i feel there needs to be a limit as to how many times you can quote and reply to a post. once you hit the 10 mark, take it to personal email to have that debate or re-quote only the last comment. sometimes the quoting continues to a point where there's only 3 posts on one page. wtf? now back to bball :)