"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."
- NYPost
let me guess Marc Berman?
Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
I agree he is too much of a liability in every area minus scoring. It's a shame because we could've used a young big man with Camby and Sheed out. Copeland doesn't play like a 6'9 big
martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR's play is up and down offensively but he has a role and Woodson plays guys who give effort on defense. JR is also a better rebounder than Cope
Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR plays hard on both sides and does make mistakes and often times shoots too much, but you can't just bench a guy like JR, especially understanding the dynamics of the NY team. They NEED his output, even when he is struggling. You can't just bench core guys cause they are struggling, unless they are absolutely fucking stuff up.
Would you have benched Melo and JR this past game? What do you think Woody's objectives are? You seem to be asking your question without really considering the big picture.
martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR plays hard on both sides and does make mistakes and often times shoots too much, but you can't just bench a guy like JR, especially understanding the dynamics of the NY team. They NEED his output, even when he is struggling. You can't just bench core guys cause they are struggling, unless they are absolutely fucking stuff up.
Would you have benched Melo and JR this past game? What do you think Woody's objectives are? You seem to be asking your question without really considering the big picture.
I think the problem is that JR shouldn't be considered a core guy. Melo, Tyson, Amare, and maybe Shumpert are core guys and everyone else is a role player. The whole point of having a guy like JR come off the bench is so he can be benched easily if his shot isn't working.
VCoug wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR plays hard on both sides and does make mistakes and often times shoots too much, but you can't just bench a guy like JR, especially understanding the dynamics of the NY team. They NEED his output, even when he is struggling. You can't just bench core guys cause they are struggling, unless they are absolutely fucking stuff up.
Would you have benched Melo and JR this past game? What do you think Woody's objectives are? You seem to be asking your question without really considering the big picture.
I think the problem is that JR shouldn't be considered a core guy. Melo, Tyson, Amare, and maybe Shumpert are core guys and everyone else is a role player. The whole point of having a guy like JR come off the bench is so he can be benched easily if his shot isn't working.
So play coach: you bench JR in Boston, Philly... who else plays his minutes?
I kind of agree. Copeland has played very well for a rookie. yes his defense needs work but his offense has been great
martin wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR plays hard on both sides and does make mistakes and often times shoots too much, but you can't just bench a guy like JR, especially understanding the dynamics of the NY team. They NEED his output, even when he is struggling. You can't just bench core guys cause they are struggling, unless they are absolutely fucking stuff up.
Would you have benched Melo and JR this past game? What do you think Woody's objectives are? You seem to be asking your question without really considering the big picture.
I think the problem is that JR shouldn't be considered a core guy. Melo, Tyson, Amare, and maybe Shumpert are core guys and everyone else is a role player. The whole point of having a guy like JR come off the bench is so he can be benched easily if his shot isn't working.
So play coach: you bench JR in Boston, Philly... who else plays his minutes?
James White, Steve Novak, Chris Copeland. Whoever is able to play well and help us win.
martin wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR plays hard on both sides and does make mistakes and often times shoots too much, but you can't just bench a guy like JR, especially understanding the dynamics of the NY team. They NEED his output, even when he is struggling. You can't just bench core guys cause they are struggling, unless they are absolutely fucking stuff up.
Would you have benched Melo and JR this past game? What do you think Woody's objectives are? You seem to be asking your question without really considering the big picture.
I think the problem is that JR shouldn't be considered a core guy. Melo, Tyson, Amare, and maybe Shumpert are core guys and everyone else is a role player. The whole point of having a guy like JR come off the bench is so he can be benched easily if his shot isn't working.
So play coach: you bench JR in Boston, Philly... who else plays his minutes?
JR has to know that there are/can be repercussions for being a renegade. I would love to see him yanked right after taking an awful shot.
How do you think Popovitch would handle that? If Pop was the coach he would yank him and rip into him and he would even do it if he had to play 4 on 5 for a few minutes just to make his point.
To me it feels almost like JR does not fear Woody and can do whatever the hell he wants.
JR does play hard on defense as is a very good defensive rebounder - if only he was not such a bonehead sometimes ...
Pops would never be fired. Woodson pulls something like that and he loses the whole team and goes the Dantoni route.
Woodson's philosophy of letting his players play has to do with him trying to keep his job
gunsnewing wrote:Pops would never be fired. Woodson pulls something like that and he loses the whole team and goes the Dantoni route.Woodson's philosophy of letting his players play has to do with him trying to keep his job
I don't buy that. He has stood up to Melo numerous times and laid into him
JR is not Melo and is in his contract year. I actually think it would be good for the team to see that. There is nothing worse than to watch a teammate just chuck at will while you are wide open.
If Woody is afraid of JR than we are in trouble.
mrKnickShot wrote:JR has to know that there are/can be repercussions for being a renegade. I would love to see him yanked right after taking an awful shot. How do you think Popovitch would handle that? If Pop was the coach he would yank him and rip into him and he would even do it if he had to play 4 on 5 for a few minutes just to make his point.
To me it feels almost like JR does not fear Woody and can do whatever the hell he wants.
JR does play hard on defense as is a very good defensive rebounder - if only he was not such a bonehead sometimes ...
I feel the exact same way. It seems like Woody gives JR the green light to shoot any shot - good or bad- when hes on the floor. Conversely, ive seen him get on others for their shoot selection. Thats how you lose a team.
VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR plays hard on both sides and does make mistakes and often times shoots too much, but you can't just bench a guy like JR, especially understanding the dynamics of the NY team. They NEED his output, even when he is struggling. You can't just bench core guys cause they are struggling, unless they are absolutely fucking stuff up.
Would you have benched Melo and JR this past game? What do you think Woody's objectives are? You seem to be asking your question without really considering the big picture.
I think the problem is that JR shouldn't be considered a core guy. Melo, Tyson, Amare, and maybe Shumpert are core guys and everyone else is a role player. The whole point of having a guy like JR come off the bench is so he can be benched easily if his shot isn't working.
So play coach: you bench JR in Boston, Philly... who else plays his minutes?
James White, Steve Novak, Chris Copeland. Whoever is able to play well and help us win.
come on man, that's not even realistic. Novak and Cope to come in to guard perimeter guys? Cause that's where JR is playing. I guess I don't mind White.
martin wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Caseloads wrote:"* Rookie Chris Copeland, who was benched the past couple of games after Woodson questioned his practice habits, was inserted in the second half with the game out of hand and played 16:38."- NYPost
when you don't practice hard, you don't play hard. Cope has shown us that; dude needs to figure out what it means to be a pro in the NBA if he wants to survive. Woody giving him some valuable lessons.
What is Woody's lesson for JR Smith.
JR plays hard on both sides and does make mistakes and often times shoots too much, but you can't just bench a guy like JR, especially understanding the dynamics of the NY team. They NEED his output, even when he is struggling. You can't just bench core guys cause they are struggling, unless they are absolutely fucking stuff up.
Would you have benched Melo and JR this past game? What do you think Woody's objectives are? You seem to be asking your question without really considering the big picture.
I think the problem is that JR shouldn't be considered a core guy. Melo, Tyson, Amare, and maybe Shumpert are core guys and everyone else is a role player. The whole point of having a guy like JR come off the bench is so he can be benched easily if his shot isn't working.
So play coach: you bench JR in Boston, Philly... who else plays his minutes?
James White, Steve Novak, Chris Copeland. Whoever is able to play well and help us win.
come on man, that's not even realistic. Novak and Cope to come in to guard perimeter guys? Cause that's where JR is playing. I guess I don't mind White.
Five days ago analysts were saying JR should have made the all star team.
gunsnewing wrote:Pops would never be fired. Woodson pulls something like that and he loses the whole team and goes the Dantoni route.Woodson's philosophy of letting his players play has to do with him trying to keep his job
Yes exactly, NY coaches have to coach this way because the Owner(James Dolan) has the players back before he has the coaches back.
gunsnewing wrote:Pops would never be fired. Woodson pulls something like that and he loses the whole team and goes the Dantoni route.
Woodson's philosophy of letting his players play has to do with him trying to keep his job
i can see that maybe end of last season, but not any more, dude just got his contract. He wants to win games, if he benches Melo, JR, who else can pick up the slack in the way those guys can?
You think Woody did the right thing by keeping JR in the Boston game?
martin wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Pops would never be fired. Woodson pulls something like that and he loses the whole team and goes the Dantoni route.
Woodson's philosophy of letting his players play has to do with him trying to keep his job
i can see that maybe end of last season, but not any more, dude just got his contract. He wants to win games, if he benches Melo, JR, who else can pick up the slack in the way those guys can?
You think Woody did the right thing by keeping JR in the Boston game?
I don't mean bench him the rest of the game. Sit him immediately after a serious of bad shots and turnovers. Rip into him on the bench which he's done before but have him sit a while. Send some kind of message to get him to play smarter. It would be better in the long run especially come playoff time even if you have to sacrifice a regular season game.
Not as worried about JR as I am about Melo keeping his word about trusting his teammates especially Amare
