Where we picked him no longer matters. His 9 points a game don't count for more if he's picked in the first than in the second round.
Economists call this a sunk cost (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost)
Bonn1997 wrote:Where we picked him no longer matters. His 9 points a game don't count for more if he's picked in the first than in the second round.
Economists call this a sunk cost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost)
If he averaged more than 9pts as a Rookie he'd be considered a Rookie of the Year candidate.
Averaging 9pts on the same team as Melo and Amare is not bad. Spree averaged 15pts rookie year on a terrible GS team
Also Shump shot 29% from 3 his first 28 games
38% since
Bonn1997 wrote:Where we picked him no longer matters. His 9 points a game don't count for more if he's picked in the first than in the second round.
Economists call this a sunk cost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost)
Agreed where were most of these guys drafted?
Ariza/Frye/Hill/Gallo/Chandler/AR/Lee/Nate/Fields/Douglas/Jorts/Jordan
3G4G wrote:Like I was saying last night for a team who's in WIN NOW mode, the posts in this thread sure aren't consistent for the moves made up to this point and the justifications for them.But if we are to trade Shump watch how much the script gets flipped for Dudley....As of the here and now Dudley is a better "PLAYER" than Shump, so strongly considering the trade based on principle alone I have no qualms with the team justifying making the deal. I do hate we're always dumping young talent but hey I guess we're being consistent here.
Shump will never reach his potential on this team anyway I'm sure we're all aware of this, well the sane are that is.
exactly. a whole lot of double standards here. we traded away youth to win-now and now we are not supposed to trade youth away.
Wilson Chandler averaged 7pts per game his rookie year on a dreadful knicks team
Gallo averaged 6pts
Ariza 5.9pts
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Where we picked him no longer matters. His 9 points a game don't count for more if he's picked in the first than in the second round.
Economists call this a sunk cost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost)
If he averaged more than 9pts as a Rookie he'd be considered a Rookie of the Year candidate.
Averaging 9pts on the same team as Melo and Amare is not bad. Spree averaged 15pts rookie year on a terrible GS team
He's not going to average more than Dudley's best yrs going forward while playing on Melo and Amar'e's team and with Felton/Earl here. Are you interested in getting rid of Amar'e? No I don't think so and we know Melo is going nowhere anytime soon, therefore you're devaluing an assets based on the emotional attachment.
dk7th wrote:3G4G wrote:Like I was saying last night for a team who's in WIN NOW mode, the posts in this thread sure aren't consistent for the moves made up to this point and the justifications for them.But if we are to trade Shump watch how much the script gets flipped for Dudley....As of the here and now Dudley is a better "PLAYER" than Shump, so strongly considering the trade based on principle alone I have no qualms with the team justifying making the deal. I do hate we're always dumping young talent but hey I guess we're being consistent here.
Shump will never reach his potential on this team anyway I'm sure we're all aware of this, well the sane are that is.
exactly. a whole lot of double standards here. we traded away youth to win-now and now we are not supposed to trade youth away.
You have to wait until they are traded to kick dirt at them with some people
gunsnewing wrote:Wilson Chandler averaged 7pts per game his rookie year on a dreadful knicks teamGallo averaged 6pts
Ariza 5.9pts
Go look at what Kobe averaged his first yr in L.A. then get back to me.
3G4G wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Where we picked him no longer matters. His 9 points a game don't count for more if he's picked in the first than in the second round.
Economists call this a sunk cost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost)
If he averaged more than 9pts as a Rookie he'd be considered a Rookie of the Year candidate.
Averaging 9pts on the same team as Melo and Amare is not bad. Spree averaged 15pts rookie year on a terrible GS team
He's not going to average more than Dudley's best yrs going forward while playing on Melo and Amar'e's team and with Felton/Earl here. Are you interested in getting rid of Amar'e? No I don't think so and we know Melo is going nowhere anytime soon, therefore you're devaluing an assets based on the emotional attachment.
You dont think Shump can't average 12 points per game? Even as a rook he took 9 shots for 9 points, the problem is he only hit 3.
3G4G wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Wilson Chandler averaged 7pts per game his rookie year on a dreadful knicks teamGallo averaged 6pts
Ariza 5.9pts
Go look at what Kobe averaged his first yr in L.A. then get back to me.
exactly 7.6pts
By the way we have a scoring SG in JR who covers most of the minutes at SG at 32mins per game anyway.
JR > Dudley(who is a SF)
gunsnewing wrote:Wilson Chandler averaged 7pts per game his rookie year on a dreadful knicks teamGallo averaged 6pts
Ariza 5.9pts
I mentioned 9 PPG as a shorthand way of saying his offense is pretty bad. TS% is a much better stat than PPG, though.
Overall Dudley is a great fit for this team.
Dudley would be a great fit for the knicks, but I think Shumpert is better. All this other nonsense is about being over protective or if you trade young players once you have to all the time is, well nonsense.
Shumpert may be the worst case of the knicks fan base way overrating our kids
I would trade Shumps for Bledsoe.
or get me a guy who can help run the team and score.
I like Sessions.
I would drop Jr Smith for Dudley right now.
Is Dudley going to fix our rebounding and defensive issues?
Vmart wrote:I would drop Jr Smith for Dudley right now.
really?
Only if PHX throws in 2-3 first rounders.
JR is a keeper and a borderline allstar
This team is far away from any Championship talk. It's built get out of the first round and that's it. I'm watching how they play and they get consistency from one spot night In and out that is Melo. The rest are what you get that day may night happen again.
mrKnickShot wrote:Vmart wrote:I would drop Jr Smith for Dudley right now.
really?
Only if PHX throws in 2-3 first rounders.
JR is a keeper and a borderline allstar
Have you lost it.
