Knicks · Doctors still not sure what's causing Melo's knee problems (page 1)

Stat played too many minutes and got hurt. Don't want the same thing to happen to Melo. Too many games left until the playoffs

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/me...

And a lot of curiosity about his knee. The fluid and knee stiffness can be due to the flaking off of cartilage, according to medical experts. Anthony said he can’t get an answer on what the injury is exactly, but so far he has not been told offseason surgery is needed. He had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee after the 2010-11 season to clean out loose cartilage.

“There’s no pain at all. Just stiffness,’’ Anthony said at San Francisco’s Olympic Club. “Nobody really can give me an exact answer on it. Because there’s no pain or ligament damage. Just fluid in the back of the knee that’s prevented me from hyperextending my leg. Nothing of that nature. None of that. No surgery.

“Just a matter of getting tight in the back of the knee. Nothing in the front of the knee. No pain. No soreness. Just some irritation.’’

Anthony said he still has some swelling.

“I used this week to really try to get healthy, get my legs back, get the soreness out,’’ Anthony said. “I don’t think [the fluid] is completely gone. But with the rest, sitting out a couple of days, getting treatment, I definitely benefitted.’’

In light of Amar’e Stoudemire’s impending knee surgery, coach Mike Woodson has said he wants to keep Anthony to 35 minutes, tops, the rest of the season. Anthony didn’t sound crazy about the idea. Stoudemire was on a 30-minute cap, but went slightly over it last week. It may be no coincidence that after a three-game stretch in which Stoudemire set season highs in minutes in two of them, he came up lame.

“I don’t know,’’ Anthony said. “We got to see how the game goes. If I come back to play, I come back to play. If he wants to limit my minutes, I’m all for it. But when I come back to play, I come back to play.’’

Woodson won’t fight it.

“I would like to do that,’’ Woodson said. “These guys, you put minute restrictions, they get a little testy. I’ll kind of do what he wants to do.’

Can't Little Jimmy just buy the Suns medical staff?

Our medical staff isnt the same as phoenix. As a matter of fact. It is consisently amongst the worse year after year. Woodson had cope in bench cloths while melo was logging 40mins vs the Pistons while amare was back in the lineup

We get players that are old and/or already damaged goods. How can you assess our medical staff? Even the best doctor can't save every cancer patient.

gunsnewing wrote:Our medical staff isnt the same as phoenix. As a matter of fact. It is consisently amongst the worse year after year. Woodson had cope in bench cloths while melo was logging 40mins vs the Pistons while amare was back in the lineup

I think the medical staff probably gets too much blame. They don't have the kind of control over in game decisions as it seems Suns medical people do. Dolan and Woodson are to blame for running their players into the ground.

Woodson has really lost support from the fan base rather quickly. And rightfully so. Not playing Prigioni, benching Cope, not letting go of Rasheed, playing Melo too many minutes not holding anyone accountable for anything, etc, etc, etc....

Not even phil would win with this roster tho

Woody should have listened to Misterearl and sat Melo. If Anthony can't do what he normally does, keeping him out there too long will only hurt the team in the long run. I understand its a player's league but you have to draw the line somewhere.

How about invest in healthy players.

Like the Suns have some magic Shaman?

Melo has been like this since christmas. He'll be fine. The fact its public knowledge is worrysome because in KnickLand when the news is out its usually a bad sign.

Anyone mention how good Tyson has held up this year? Shump returned? Knicks staff in NYC has access to great resources. Dolan is a moron but he seems to invest in many aspects to conditioning and technology. I can't imagine Dr Callahan and the resouces available can't do a good job.

nearly half the roster is over 35, the oldest team in the history of the NBA.

Your gonna injuries. Melo is the only one im concerned with. Stat was defective when he walked thru the door. Camby is old, Sheed was retired, and Kidd is 40 and over played. Shump had a bad knee in college and was hurt early last season. The ACL happens to others.

If you ask me, Dolan is the one that needs better medical attention.

Which begs the question why was Copeland in street cloths when he can spell Melo and give you similar production off the bench without major dropoff. Play melo under 35 not 40mins

Why is white playing. Another SG Who cant shoot and cant play PF forcing Melo to play 40mins. Even last night Woodson went back to Melo when he clearly had nothing coming off the knee injury

We invested $20MIL on Amare uninsured. It is what is is. Doesnt mean you run Melo into the ground as well playing 40mins of 1 on 5 and guarding opposing bigger pfs even after Amare returned. Melo is going to be banged up the rest of the year. Hopefully he only needs minor knee surgery like wade after the year. If you dont limit his mins he will tear an acl or worse and will never be the same into his 30s

Start Stat. Start JR. Bench JR. Shoot Stat's doctors. Shoot Novak. Start Novak. Play Cope. Shoot JR. Soon: Start Cope
Oh what fickle web we weave.

The schedule still looks greenish to me. No 7-8 game streaks of red. No huge falloffs. A few blowouts that truly standout, but most of them we did to others.

3 blowout losses.
8 blowout wins.

I kinda like that math, personally.
I still hate losing to DLee though.

We defintely agree on the last point. Lost my favorite knick for $100mil uninsured Amare frickin Stoudamire. Only the knicks

What we did was acquire players who had lots of mileage on them, namely Amar'e/Melo/Chandler. They had already given the best they've had of their careers to the rest of the league.

While good players and capable of putting together stretches of great play they were more than likely to decline than sustain or elevate their level of play during a full season as Knicks. Has anyone noticed Melo is getting injured more often and missing more games since acquiring him....Amar'e hadn't missed many games last 2yrs in Phx but has missed a near full season since we've acquired him as a Knick. Some of their performances have been downright awful. We also assembled teams around them with added pressure for them to perform above their means in terms of minutes and workload.

Add to the fact our medical/training staff isn't at the top of the league of getting players to recover quickly from or properly diagnose and/or help prevent injuries with high quality conditioning regimens and maintenance treatments.

While I'm sure Melo and Amar'e have done the best in their mind to prepare and recover from painful injury situations, this season has been PAINFUL to watch overall and that's with a winning record.

Win the trade, lose the decade?

Yes we have older experience players, but young talented players don't win championships.

The Med staff is suspect and always have been, but woodson is such a old school coach with old school habits, he's more to blame then anyone..

Were so deep we play 8/9 guys, a 6th man thats 2nd on the team in minutes played.

gunsnewing wrote:We defintely agree on the last point. Lost my favorite knick for $100mil uninsured Amare frickin Stoudamire. Only the knicks

How could someone who couldn't defend you be your favorite Knick? Just asking. Personally, I liked Jorts better. Hard nosed, rebounds and the occasional three. Great. I like guys who can't manage to stay in the league.

3G4G wrote:What we did was acquire players who had lots of mileage on them, namely Amar'e/Melo/Chandler. They had already given the best they've had of their careers to the rest of the league.

While good players and capable of putting together stretches of great play they were more than likely to decline than sustain or elevate their level of play during a full season as Knicks. Has anyone noticed Melo is getting injured more often and missing more games since acquiring him....Amar'e hadn't missed many games last 2yrs in Phx but has missed a near full season since we've acquired him as a Knick. Some of their performances have been downright awful. We also assembled teams around them with added pressure for them to perform above their means in terms of minutes and workload.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but given this logic, please explain the Celtics and their lone chip to me. And please don't say 'Rondo', because he's been injured almost as much as any of the others.

3G4G wrote:What we did was acquire players who had lots of mileage on them, namely Amar'e/Melo/Chandler. They had already given the best they've had of their careers to the rest of the league.

While good players and capable of putting together stretches of great play they were more than likely to decline than sustain or elevate their level of play during a full season as Knicks. Has anyone noticed Melo is getting injured more often and missing more games since acquiring him....Amar'e hadn't missed many games last 2yrs in Phx but has missed a near full season since we've acquired him as a Knick. Some of their performances have been downright awful. We also assembled teams around them with added pressure for them to perform above their means in terms of minutes and workload.

Add to the fact our medical/training staff isn't at the top of the league of getting players to recover quickly from or properly diagnose and/or help prevent injuries with high quality conditioning regimens and maintenance treatments.

While I'm sure Melo and Amar'e have done the best in their mind to prepare and recover from painful injury situations, this season has been PAINFUL to watch overall and that's with a winning record.

very well put..

jrodmc wrote:I'm not trying to pick a fight here,but given this logic

I know you're not trying to get knocked out in the 1st round but your common sense is a little slow....

Real simple Melo/Amar'e/Tyson best yrs in this league have already been displayed and given to other teams. We will not see the light of day of the best they have to offer, they have come and gone...Sad thing is they all are in the middle of Prime and their salaries balloon

KAPISH?

Boston completely different situation and TEAM altogether

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We defintely agree on the last point. Lost my favorite knick for $100mil uninsured Amare frickin Stoudamire. Only the knicks

How could someone who couldn't defend you be your favorite Knick? Just asking. Personally, I liked Jorts better. Hard nosed, rebounds and the occasional three. Great. I like guys who can't manage to stay in the league.

3G4G wrote:What we did was acquire players who had lots of mileage on them, namely Amar'e/Melo/Chandler. They had already given the best they've had of their careers to the rest of the league.

While good players and capable of putting together stretches of great play they were more than likely to decline than sustain or elevate their level of play during a full season as Knicks. Has anyone noticed Melo is getting injured more often and missing more games since acquiring him....Amar'e hadn't missed many games last 2yrs in Phx but has missed a near full season since we've acquired him as a Knick. Some of their performances have been downright awful. We also assembled teams around them with added pressure for them to perform above their means in terms of minutes and workload.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but given this logic, please explain the Celtics and their lone chip to me. And please don't say 'Rondo', because he's been injured almost as much as any of the others.

i THINK It is simple.. they were all playing near the top of their games.. not so much individually, but as a team.. and when you look at it.. garnet was much healthier than amare.. Pierce just a better overall player than carmelo.. we have nothing close on this team to what ray allen was then.. and when you add in guys like rondo.. well it is easy to see the difference.. And yes he was a difference maker, look at the finals box scores, he had a 16 assist game one time and then a 6 steal game another.. add in young guys like perkins, leon powe, tony Allen, and james posey, they had enough good young talent that produced..

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We defintely agree on the last point. Lost my favorite knick for $100mil uninsured Amare frickin Stoudamire. Only the knicks

How could someone who couldn't defend you be your favorite Knick? Just asking. Personally, I liked Jorts better. Hard nosed, rebounds and the occasional three. Great. I like guys who can't manage to stay in the league.

3G4G wrote:What we did was acquire players who had lots of mileage on them, namely Amar'e/Melo/Chandler. They had already given the best they've had of their careers to the rest of the league.

While good players and capable of putting together stretches of great play they were more than likely to decline than sustain or elevate their level of play during a full season as Knicks. Has anyone noticed Melo is getting injured more often and missing more games since acquiring him....Amar'e hadn't missed many games last 2yrs in Phx but has missed a near full season since we've acquired him as a Knick. Some of their performances have been downright awful. We also assembled teams around them with added pressure for them to perform above their means in terms of minutes and workload.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but given this logic, please explain the Celtics and their lone chip to me. And please don't say 'Rondo', because he's been injured almost as much as any of the others.

how can someone who doesnt defend be yours? Last time Melo played any D the tree was lit at Rock center. It was a good run up to the holidays? What happened? (Aside from what always happens)