Knicks · Would Bobcats take Carmelo for (page 3)

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Only in New York would people be dying to trade the only all-stars they have had in the past 15 years. Unreal.

+1. The guy is 28 years old. Unreal.

I understand the need to try and make the roster more cap flexible, but to do a complete rebuild at this point is nonsense.

Nothing is UNREAL about being....

88-57 after trade and the other team being 99-56 after the trade. 1 team has their all-star taken from them who comes to us and the other left with only 1 semi all-star

We start out 14-14 after the trade get hot and put together two great stretches of 18-6 play and then revert back to 38-31(and regressing) which is closer to .500 basketball. This is with the All-Star getting older and salary ballooning.

These are simple minded talking points. First off, Denver's success revolves around Lawson. The only player that has any real hand in their record since the trade that came from the Knicks is Gallo, and he's been wildly inconsistent. Wilson is just starting to play well for them. Our success is more tied to that trade than Denver's. And lets not forget that since the trade we've won better than 60% of our games with injuries every step of the way.

I'm not arguing for or against the trade. Both sides have good arguments. But your argument for trading a top player in his prime years as being an obvious choice is ridiculous.

Both teams benefitted greatly from the trade. With Melo the knicks have a player who can push you to the playoffs regardless of supporting cast and win games and close games on his own. We haven't had that type of player in a long time. It's as simple as that. Disliking his game is fine, but this is a stars league, and the only teams that win championships have a guy who can take over the game on offense. If we were to let that go shame on us because it will be a long time before we get it back.

The scary thing is that no one even disagreed when they saw this

Lost me at "Melo to Charlotte".........That was not gonna happen.

Maybe one day if they contend at the end of his contract but Im not thinking La La in Charlotte is going to help her brand.
Briggs is thoughtful but he is prone like the rest of us to get excited about whats in front of you at the time and project that out.

RonRon wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:pick 2 and 13 in this draft and well take Ben Gordon off their hands? If I can get both Kelly Olynck(has to be there for me to do it) and two of Nate Wolters CJ Mccolum or Erick Greene---I would do it. In a short time Kelly O will be better than Carmelo and these three guards are going to be great NBA players.

Forgot when Briggs proposed rebuilding with either

Nate Walters (Steve Nash)

Kelly Olynicks (Marc Gasol comparison$

Mike Muscula (forgot the name but lefty that was a forward that played on GS with Baron Davis and got paid and was decent for a couple years, think he last played for Dallas stretch 4
But said he was not a Center though that was the position he played college and he was actually a PF and would be better for the NBA in PF

While trading CA for these soon to be NBA Stars

Rom--There are a lot of people who believe Kelly O is a version of Dirk. Hes' had some foot issues but take a hard look at his game next time he plays and his numbers right now 11.4 5.4 reb 2 assists 50% in 24 minutes. Thats on schedule to be a 20-10-4 player in this league. I knew we needed a PG and wasnt a fan of MCW(still not) and wanted to take the best available tall PG.

BRIGGS wrote:

RonRon wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:pick 2 and 13 in this draft and well take Ben Gordon off their hands? If I can get both Kelly Olynck(has to be there for me to do it) and two of Nate Wolters CJ Mccolum or Erick Greene---I would do it. In a short time Kelly O will be better than Carmelo and these three guards are going to be great NBA players.

Forgot when Briggs proposed rebuilding with either

Nate Walters (Steve Nash)

Kelly Olynicks (Marc Gasol comparison$

Mike Muscula (forgot the name but lefty that was a forward that played on GS with Baron Davis and got paid and was decent for a couple years, think he last played for Dallas stretch 4
But said he was not a Center though that was the position he played college and he was actually a PF and would be better for the NBA in PF

While trading CA for these soon to be NBA Stars

Rom--There are a lot of people who believe Kelly O is a version of Dirk. Hes' had some foot issues but take a hard look at his game next time he plays and his numbers right now 11.4 5.4 reb 2 assists 50% in 24 minutes. Thats on schedule to be a 20-10-4 player in this league. I knew we needed a PG and wasnt a fan of MCW(still not) and wanted to take the best available tall PG.

Dude! Stop with the FG stat. Its for 60 y/o's with a high belt line.

that said, he is an efficient player with a very high TS.

also, a version of Dirk? there were/are so many future dirk's ...

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

RonRon wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:pick 2 and 13 in this draft and well take Ben Gordon off their hands? If I can get both Kelly Olynck(has to be there for me to do it) and two of Nate Wolters CJ Mccolum or Erick Greene---I would do it. In a short time Kelly O will be better than Carmelo and these three guards are going to be great NBA players.

Forgot when Briggs proposed rebuilding with either

Nate Walters (Steve Nash)

Kelly Olynicks (Marc Gasol comparison$

Mike Muscula (forgot the name but lefty that was a forward that played on GS with Baron Davis and got paid and was decent for a couple years, think he last played for Dallas stretch 4
But said he was not a Center though that was the position he played college and he was actually a PF and would be better for the NBA in PF

While trading CA for these soon to be NBA Stars

Rom--There are a lot of people who believe Kelly O is a version of Dirk. Hes' had some foot issues but take a hard look at his game next time he plays and his numbers right now 11.4 5.4 reb 2 assists 50% in 24 minutes. Thats on schedule to be a 20-10-4 player in this league. I knew we needed a PG and wasnt a fan of MCW(still not) and wanted to take the best available tall PG.

Dude! Stop with the FG stat. Its for 60 y/o's with a high belt line.

that said, he is an efficient player with a very high TS.

also, a version of Dirk? there were/are so many future dirk's ...

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

RonRon wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:pick 2 and 13 in this draft and well take Ben Gordon off their hands? If I can get both Kelly Olynck(has to be there for me to do it) and two of Nate Wolters CJ Mccolum or Erick Greene---I would do it. In a short time Kelly O will be better than Carmelo and these three guards are going to be great NBA players.

Forgot when Briggs proposed rebuilding with either

Nate Walters (Steve Nash)

Kelly Olynicks (Marc Gasol comparison$

Mike Muscula (forgot the name but lefty that was a forward that played on GS with Baron Davis and got paid and was decent for a couple years, think he last played for Dallas stretch 4
But said he was not a Center though that was the position he played college and he was actually a PF and would be better for the NBA in PF

While trading CA for these soon to be NBA Stars

Rom--There are a lot of people who believe Kelly O is a version of Dirk. Hes' had some foot issues but take a hard look at his game next time he plays and his numbers right now 11.4 5.4 reb 2 assists 50% in 24 minutes. Thats on schedule to be a 20-10-4 player in this league. I knew we needed a PG and wasnt a fan of MCW(still not) and wanted to take the best available tall PG.

Dude! Stop with the FG stat. Its for 60 y/o's with a high belt line.

that said, he is an efficient player with a very high TS.

also, a version of Dirk? there were/are so many future dirk's ...

Who can forget Lampe?!

My favorite player of all time.

Wish he had a brand. I would buy everything

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

RonRon wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:pick 2 and 13 in this draft and well take Ben Gordon off their hands? If I can get both Kelly Olynck(has to be there for me to do it) and two of Nate Wolters CJ Mccolum or Erick Greene---I would do it. In a short time Kelly O will be better than Carmelo and these three guards are going to be great NBA players.

Forgot when Briggs proposed rebuilding with either

Nate Walters (Steve Nash)

Kelly Olynicks (Marc Gasol comparison$

Mike Muscula (forgot the name but lefty that was a forward that played on GS with Baron Davis and got paid and was decent for a couple years, think he last played for Dallas stretch 4
But said he was not a Center though that was the position he played college and he was actually a PF and would be better for the NBA in PF

While trading CA for these soon to be NBA Stars

Rom--There are a lot of people who believe Kelly O is a version of Dirk. Hes' had some foot issues but take a hard look at his game next time he plays and his numbers right now 11.4 5.4 reb 2 assists 50% in 24 minutes. Thats on schedule to be a 20-10-4 player in this league. I knew we needed a PG and wasnt a fan of MCW(still not) and wanted to take the best available tall PG.

Dude! Stop with the FG stat. Its for 60 y/o's with a high belt line.

that said, he is an efficient player with a very high TS.

also, a version of Dirk? there were/are so many future dirk's ...

Who can forget Lampe?!

and every other big white ugly euro

Nikoloz Tskitishvili

BRIGGS wrote:pick 2 and 13 in this draft and well take Ben Gordon off their hands? If I can get both Kelly Olynck(has to be there for me to do it) and two of Nate Wolters CJ Mccolum or Erick Greene---I would do it. In a short time Kelly O will be better than Carmelo and these three guards are going to be great NBA players.

This is very funny - classic Briggs with the dramatic statements and over inflated assessments of college players.