Knicks · GAME THREAD: Knicks crush the Clippers in LA! 3:30 (ET) SUNDAY! (page 9)

loweyecue wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Dagger wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:The spread offense doesn't work without a focal point. You need a legit penetrator/distributor and someone to feature in the high or low post. This is to force the defense to have to react and create open shots on the perimeter or score at the basket/midrange. We have too many dumb players handling the ball rather than moving the ball and moving themselves.

Knicks need to dig in on D and hope to keep the pace slow.

But the whole reason we got Felton was because he's a legit smart veteran penetrator and distributor with a track record.

Felton is a teletubby. distributor? He probably averages like 3-4 assists per game.

He was playing pretty good to start the year. What do you think has changed between now and then? Maybe all the hand and other injuries are just adding uo

Or maybe every team in the league knows exactly what we will do all game long? Becuase we don't have a offensive system?

3rd Qtr 5:52
LAC 57 NYK 44

Dagger wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Dagger wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:The spread offense doesn't work without a focal point. You need a legit penetrator/distributor and someone to feature in the high or low post. This is to force the defense to have to react and create open shots on the perimeter or score at the basket/midrange. We have too many dumb players handling the ball rather than moving the ball and moving themselves.

Knicks need to dig in on D and hope to keep the pace slow.

But the whole reason we got Felton was because he's a legit smart veteran penetrator and distributor with a track record.

Felton is a teletubby. distributor? He probably averages like 3-4 assists per game.

He was playing pretty good to start the year. What do you think has changed between now and then? Maybe all the hand and other injuries are just adding uo

The injuries, and the (chocolate) chip he had on his shoulder has fallen off. I wasn't particularly impressed with him at all this year to be honest. He's a brick factory and misses way too many lay-ups. I liked him his first time here, but he just doesn't seem good enough to the starter on a strong team.

My Stages of Raymond Felton

1) Liked him first run with Knicks. Perhaps every PG just looks so much better in Pick n Roll centric system (see: Chris Duhon, Lin)
2) What the hell happened to him in Portland?
3) Dammit I wanted Lin back
4) Grunwald is genius! We are kicking ass and Felton + Kidd together was a MUCH better move than Lin.
5) Currently:

WTF is going on with our PG situation???

3rd Qtr 3:36
LAC 65 NYK 53

loweyecue wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Dagger wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:The spread offense doesn't work without a focal point. You need a legit penetrator/distributor and someone to feature in the high or low post. This is to force the defense to have to react and create open shots on the perimeter or score at the basket/midrange. We have too many dumb players handling the ball rather than moving the ball and moving themselves.

Knicks need to dig in on D and hope to keep the pace slow.

But the whole reason we got Felton was because he's a legit smart veteran penetrator and distributor with a track record.

Felton is a teletubby. distributor? He probably averages like 3-4 assists per game.

He was playing pretty good to start the year. What do you think has changed between now and then? Maybe all the hand and other injuries are just adding uo

Or maybe every team in the league knows exactly what we will do all game long? Becuase we don't have a offensive system?

Bingo!!! It is all on the coach. We don't have any offensive system in place. Woodson has absolutely no set plays. Woodson is the total opposite of Doc Rivers.

loweyecue wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Dagger wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:The spread offense doesn't work without a focal point. You need a legit penetrator/distributor and someone to feature in the high or low post. This is to force the defense to have to react and create open shots on the perimeter or score at the basket/midrange. We have too many dumb players handling the ball rather than moving the ball and moving themselves.

Knicks need to dig in on D and hope to keep the pace slow.

But the whole reason we got Felton was because he's a legit smart veteran penetrator and distributor with a track record.

Felton is a teletubby. distributor? He probably averages like 3-4 assists per game.

He was playing pretty good to start the year. What do you think has changed between now and then? Maybe all the hand and other injuries are just adding uo

Or maybe every team in the league knows exactly what we will do all game long? Becuase we don't have a offensive system?

We do though. We're basically running MDA's system right? So if anything we can blame our woeful offense on MDA.

Yeah well, there are definitely people here who will blame MDA if the Yankees lose to the Red Sox or sequestration takes holds with spending cuts. Whether you choose to beone of them is up to you.

I like Pringles and think he got a raw deal here. I was speaking somewhat tongue in cheek.

I think most teams in the league are running a PnR heavy offense now due to the rule changes making it almost impossible to stop a good PG coming off a screen.

There are so many things not working for our team even before the injuries. I dunno what to blame: injuries? age? predictable offense? horrible defense? players? coaches? management?

For all I know we'll get healthy right before the playoffs and go on a monster run and everyone will forget about the regular season.

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Camby=Jerome James

Daaaaaamn thats a low blow

Lol, it true, but I will give Camby a pass because of his age.

StarksEwing1 wrote:Camby=Jerome James

I was gonna comment that I have never seen a player looked so uninterested in being on the court.

nycisgreat wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Dagger wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:The spread offense doesn't work without a focal point. You need a legit penetrator/distributor and someone to feature in the high or low post. This is to force the defense to have to react and create open shots on the perimeter or score at the basket/midrange. We have too many dumb players handling the ball rather than moving the ball and moving themselves.

Knicks need to dig in on D and hope to keep the pace slow.

But the whole reason we got Felton was because he's a legit smart veteran penetrator and distributor with a track record.

Felton is a teletubby. distributor? He probably averages like 3-4 assists per game.

He was playing pretty good to start the year. What do you think has changed between now and then? Maybe all the hand and other injuries are just adding uo

Or maybe every team in the league knows exactly what we will do all game long? Becuase we don't have a offensive system?

Bingo!!! It is all on the coach. We don't have any offensive system in place. Woodson has absolutely no set plays. Woodson is the total opposite of Doc Rivers.

nycisgreat wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Dagger wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

nixluva wrote:The spread offense doesn't work without a focal point. You need a legit penetrator/distributor and someone to feature in the high or low post. This is to force the defense to have to react and create open shots on the perimeter or score at the basket/midrange. We have too many dumb players handling the ball rather than moving the ball and moving themselves.

Knicks need to dig in on D and hope to keep the pace slow.

But the whole reason we got Felton was because he's a legit smart veteran penetrator and distributor with a track record.

Felton is a teletubby. distributor? He probably averages like 3-4 assists per game.

He was playing pretty good to start the year. What do you think has changed between now and then? Maybe all the hand and other injuries are just adding uo

Or maybe every team in the league knows exactly what we will do all game long? Becuase we don't have a offensive system?

Bingo!!! It is all on the coach. We don't have any offensive system in place. Woodson has absolutely no set plays. Woodson is the total opposite of Doc Rivers.

I've been critical of Woody as well. Mainly it's the double teaming and constant switching on D that i HATE.

But George Karl has come out and said he doesn't have any set plays either this season. It's basically just RUN RUN RUN ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK. Easier to do w/ a young team + distributor in Lawson and Iggy and Vet Andre Miller than our squad I guess.

So..both the Knicks and the Nugs don't really run set plays. Tough to say that's the only/main factor in why we're not doing well.

smackeddog wrote:I can't stand Blake Griffin.

Same. All athletic flash and little skill. At least he has tried to work on his game.

3rd Qtr 2:50
LAC 67 NYK 53

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:I've been critical of Woody as well. Mainly it's the double teaming and constant switching on D that i HATE.

But George Karl has come out and said he doesn't have any set plays either this season. It's basically just RUN RUN RUN ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK. Easier to do w/ a young team + distributor in Lawson and Iggy and Vet Andre Miller than our squad I guess.

ramtour420 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I can't stand Blake Griffin.

Same. All athletic flash and little skill. At least he has tried to work on his game.

He has improved a lot from his rookie season.

If he were on the KNicks we'd have Blake Griffin jammies.