yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
Tyson is now Shaq? "If you don't feed the dog, he won't guard the house."?????????????
Yes, I'm hoping this is sarcasm.
knicks1248 wrote:not only is tyson leting hibert post and toast him, he's not making him pay on the other end..Funny how melo gave hibert most of his 5 fouls, while tyson didn't get hibert one single foul
Hows Chandler gonna do that? He has no offensive game besides lobs and put-backs.
yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
The new wrinkle is for Tyson Chandler to continue to take the foul line jumper and Amare too.
This will put Hibbert in areas on defense where HE gets exposed and away from guarding the hoop !
playa2 wrote:Is Chandler and Kidd still hungry? They already won a Championship , of course it was with Dallas a few yrs ago.
They got paid Royaly by the Knicks for for helping a team win a Chip, sooooooooo what's their real motivation to win one in NY ?
This one is easy.....
This was Kidd's last deal he was 40yrs old and managed to pull off a multi-yr deal...ask yourself how many 40yr olds in NBA history have done this?
Tyson....well his whole playing career has been somewhat Enigmatic from his health to his play, one thing that was very apparent when we amnestied Billups....Tyson was not worth $50mil
No need to sour over them now they were known quantities before we acquired them. If this season has taught us anything as fans, it's that we need to do more homework when accurately assessing players. IMO this board has a very difficult time doing this.....from players who are great to those who are trash.
playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team."… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’
Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.
This tells me our players have agendas and have had them all yr...(in some cases it appeared to work during the regular season(not the real season))
playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team."… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’
Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.
One thing I hate is a player who doesn't bear personal responsibility ...Tyson STFU and grab a rebound...We are getting killed on the boards and apparently you aren't playing defense this year...Grab a mofo board...Look in the mirror and ask what have you done to help your team win...Or when was the last time you helped in that department...How about stopping the stupid fouls...
Kidd was trying to resign with Brooklyn so he could hang with his boy DWill..The Nets turned him down...So he figured he sign with the Knicks to he could hang in his home in the Hampton's and play golf with his buddy...
You know the team is in trouble because Tyson is talking about offense.
holfresh wrote:Kidd was trying to resign with Brooklyn so he could hang with his boy DWill..The Nets turned him down...So he figured he sign with the Knicks to he could hang in his home in the Hampton's and play golf with his buddy...
Yeah this contract was his "ride into the sunset" financially. Basically he gave himself cushion just in case he has a few yrs of Mark Brunell/Antoine Walker/Kenny Anderson/Derrick Colemanism
We fell for it hook, line, sinker....
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
Huh? You keep using bizarre sarcasm in this thread
is it sarcasm? He needs more touches. He wants more touches. He goes as his offense go. I said this all year.
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
Huh? You keep using bizarre sarcasm in this thread
is it sarcasm? He needs more touches. He wants more touches. He goes as his offense go. I said this all year.
Oh, I guess I misunderstood you. You called him "the man" and I didn't realize you were being genuine. I agree the team should run more pick and roll plays for him on offense, though. It would probably help him on both ends of the floor.
Tyson needs help. You have to help the former DPOY and double Hibbert. Why they didn't do this is crazy. Let Prigs roam off of Lance.
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
Huh? You keep using bizarre sarcasm in this thread
is it sarcasm? He needs more touches. He wants more touches. He goes as his offense go. I said this all year.
Oh, I guess I misunderstood you. You called him "the man" and I didn't realize you were being genuine. I agree the team should run more pick and roll plays for him on offense, though. It would probably help him on both ends of the floor.
This might be a series where he has to be more Ben Wallace than Shaquille O'Neal....Every player needs to learn what sacrifice is.
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
Huh? You keep using bizarre sarcasm in this thread
is it sarcasm? He needs more touches. He wants more touches. He goes as his offense go. I said this all year.
Oh, I guess I misunderstood you. You called him "the man" and I didn't realize you were being genuine. I agree the team should run more pick and roll plays for him on offense, though. It would probably help him on both ends of the floor.
They run quit a but of PnR with Tyson and do not look for him. I do not think they trust Tyson to handle the passes. I still think it would serve the team and Melo more if he looked to pass to Tyson off the PnR,even though he was the number 1 ranked PnR scorer(ball handler). JR is probably the worst at not looking for the pass. I would like to see more PnR between Shump and CHandler. The problem is that West will lay off and Shump mid range game is spotty at best. IF your 2 guard can not beat a 4 on offense you have a problem. Shump is a key trigger for this offense.
Also, I am only half way genuine with Tyson. I see him for what he is and what he isn't. Right now he is taking little cheap shots because he can't guard Hibbert. He talked a lot of stuff last year about Hibbert not being an all star, now look at how Hibbert is doing his best to punish him. Tyson is still the defensive key and without him slowing Hibbert the Knicks really do not have a chance unless Camby pulls off the unthinkable.
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
Huh? You keep using bizarre sarcasm in this thread
is it sarcasm? He needs more touches. He wants more touches. He goes as his offense go. I said this all year.
Oh, I guess I misunderstood you. You called him "the man" and I didn't realize you were being genuine. I agree the team should run more pick and roll plays for him on offense, though. It would probably help him on both ends of the floor.
They run quit a but of PnR with Tyson and do not look for him. I do not think they trust Tyson to handle the passes. I still think it would serve the team and Melo more if he looked to pass to Tyson off the PnR,even though he was the number 1 ranked PnR scorer(ball handler). JR is probably the worst at not looking for the pass. I would like to see more PnR between Shump and CHandler. The problem is that West will lay off and Shump mid range game is spotty at best. IF your 2 guard can not beat a 4 on offense you have a problem. Shump is a key trigger for this offense.Also, I am only half way genuine with Tyson. I see him for what he is and what he isn't. Right now he is taking little cheap shots because he can't guard Hibbert. He talked a lot of stuff last year about Hibbert not being an all star, now look at how Hibbert is doing his best to punish him. Tyson is still the defensive key and without him slowing Hibbert the Knicks really do not have a chance unless Camby pulls off the unthinkable.
Melo and open teammates is becoming laughable. Melo's game has regressed so much in the playoffs. I don't like what Melo is doing and I can't stand what JR is doing.
yellowboy90 wrote:Tyson needs help. You have to help the former DPOY and double Hibbert. Why they didn't do this is crazy. Let Prigs roam off of Lance.
So the DPOY needs help with Hibbert??..
holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Tyson needs help. You have to help the former DPOY and double Hibbert. Why they didn't do this is crazy. Let Prigs roam off of Lance.
So the DPOY needs help with Hibbert??
You can either ask questions like why or see that Tyson is not getting it done and help the guy out. WHo do you think Tyson is Andrew Bogut?
Is it weird to see a DPOY say he needs help one on one, Yes. It is what it is.
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Chandler needs more touches in the post and to get the ball at the top of the key and look for someone to pass to when the shot clock is counting down. Tyson is the man.
Huh? You keep using bizarre sarcasm in this thread
is it sarcasm? He needs more touches. He wants more touches. He goes as his offense go. I said this all year.
Oh, I guess I misunderstood you. You called him "the man" and I didn't realize you were being genuine. I agree the team should run more pick and roll plays for him on offense, though. It would probably help him on both ends of the floor.
They run quit a but of PnR with Tyson and do not look for him. I do not think they trust Tyson to handle the passes. I still think it would serve the team and Melo more if he looked to pass to Tyson off the PnR,even though he was the number 1 ranked PnR scorer(ball handler). JR is probably the worst at not looking for the pass. I would like to see more PnR between Shump and CHandler. The problem is that West will lay off and Shump mid range game is spotty at best. IF your 2 guard can not beat a 4 on offense you have a problem. Shump is a key trigger for this offense.Also, I am only half way genuine with Tyson. I see him for what he is and what he isn't. Right now he is taking little cheap shots because he can't guard Hibbert. He talked a lot of stuff last year about Hibbert not being an all star, now look at how Hibbert is doing his best to punish him. Tyson is still the defensive key and without him slowing Hibbert the Knicks really do not have a chance unless Camby pulls off the unthinkable.
What we need is Tyson and Amare to lead the team in 3 pt attempts.
Hibbert is hitting little jump hooks over Tyson like he's not even being guarded. All we can hope for is Hibbert living out his "I only play every other game" mantra.
We lost to a team that shot almost as piss poor as we did.
KNICKS TAKE GAME 4 BY 30.
yellowboy90 wrote:holfresh wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Tyson needs help. You have to help the former DPOY and double Hibbert. Why they didn't do this is crazy. Let Prigs roam off of Lance.
So the DPOY needs help with Hibbert??
You can either ask questions like why or see that Tyson is not getting it done and help the guy out. WHo do you think Tyson is Andrew Bogut? Is it weird to see a DPOY say he needs help one on one, Yes. It is what it is.
Dude is averaging 4 rebounds per against Indy and he needs plays run for him...That big fat paycheck isn't enough...He is is making Hibbert who can't jump look like Kareem..
playa2 wrote:Is Chandler and Kidd still hungry? They already won a Championship , of course it was with Dallas a few yrs ago.
They got paid Royaly by the Knicks for for helping a team win a Chip, sooooooooo what's their real motivation to win one in NY ?
Why do we have to ask ourselves this?
You think they are shooting spitballs at woodys back in class room? Acting the fool being class clown? Clubbing?
holfresh wrote:playa2 wrote:"Honestly, I think we’re doing it to ourselves," center Tyson Chandler said. "I watched the tape myself and there’s open looks. We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team."… I don’t think — I’m not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it’s more so a situation. You want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, [but] you have to just stick to the game plan.’’
Wow this tells me that they players were on the same page for game 2 but not game 3 for the coach and his game plan.
One thing I hate is a player who doesn't bear personal responsibility ...Tyson STFU and grab a rebound...We are getting killed on the boards and apparently you aren't playing defense this year...Grab a mofo board...Look in the mirror and ask what have you done to help your team win...Or when was the last time you helped in that department...How about stopping the stupid fouls...
This......Ontop of that, if he was taking a subliminal shot at Melo, game 3 wasn't the game to do as Melo only took 16 shots and sat on the bench for most of the 3rd Q.....
