They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.
- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
This first round pick were going to draft hasn't done anything for us yet, I say we trade him too.
Great idea- then we cash in by handing our top pick to Denver in 2014, just like we did with Chicago under IT!
BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
The 64' rebuild began with drafting willis as the cornerstone. It took 6 years. Trades, draft picks and letting players develope.
Clyde rookie season was not a great one.
Imagine doing all of that again in this day. Bradley was awful his rookie year at 2 guard. We would have called for his head. We would have lamented trading Walt Bellamy. Cazzie Russell was never the player he was in college! OMG, BLOW IT UP!!!!!
I detect sarcasim.
Lets blow it up witout draft picks!!!!
Even tho it is a drastic measure I can understand someone thinking this way. For one thing what has Grunwald ever done that we should have faith he knows what he's doing? What has Woody ever done? This roster is weighed down with contracts and players that can't perform at a high level anymore. We have no cap space and very few options to improve. So I can fully understand what Basketballjones is saying.
Now you can also look at things from a pragmatic point of view. Don't worry about winning a title and just fix the team as best you can from here.
Players signed and locked in for next year:
Melo
Shump
Tyson
Felton
Amar'e
Novak
Camby
Kidd
Knicks have an option on Prigs but who knows how he feels about playing here again.
JR will likely opt out and see what he can get. Tho it's also possible that his agent doesn't get any feelers and decides to exercise his option.
So this team has 6 spots to fill outside of the Draft pick they'll add. That's a lot of people to find for a team that has no cap space!!!
Great idea we dont own any draft picks but lets rebuild so other teams get are lottery picks
BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
If we were truly patient we would have done all of this already. Patient teams can't afford to wait
Jmpasq wrote:Great idea we dont own any draft picks but lets rebuild so other teams get are lottery picks
We tried that and we rebuilt the Bulls instead!
Nalod wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Great idea we dont own any draft picks but lets rebuild so other teams get are lottery picks
We tried that and we rebuilt the Bulls instead!
In just the past 5 or 6 years Dolan has helped rebuild the Bulls and the Nuggets- can't believe he gets criticised on these boards, what other owner has built 2 top calibre teams in that period of time?
smackeddog wrote:Nalod wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Great idea we dont own any draft picks but lets rebuild so other teams get are lottery picks
We tried that and we rebuilt the Bulls instead!
In just the past 5 or 6 years Dolan has helped rebuild the Bulls and the Nuggets- can't believe he gets criticised on these boards, what other owner has built 2 top calibre teams in that period of time?
Everything he touch's turns to gold.
For another team!
Bippity10 wrote:BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
If we were truly patient we would have done all of this already. Patient teams can't afford to wait
Precisely. I've been patiently waiting for this to happen yesterday
BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
Sounds great, I agree with you we haven't been stubborn enough the past 13 years, maybe one more try of blowing up the team could work this time ..
I mean who are these people talking about stability ... It only led us to 50 wins and the 2nd round, it is for sure not enough for next year .. All this mediocrity
Stability has proved to work on many teams around the league but it takes time, it's not entertaining and has chance to fail .. I say lets blow up the team, it fails even more than stability but its more entertaining and takes less time ... And it still can work if we are stubborn enough ! 13 years is a too small sample size to discard this strategy and try something else for a change
BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
BasketballJones, I have been shouting this from rooftops for years. Some knick fans just arent prepared for what needs to be done. The way this team is currently constructed it will never get out of the second round. It needs to be blown up. Trade carmelo while he still has trade value. Dont just clear cap with nothing in return, get back picks and start to finally rebuild this team. It is the only way forward.
add veteran leadership for the new crew == marbs
new team trainer == curry
get the old gang back together again during this rebuild.
subzero0 wrote:BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
BasketballJones, I have been shouting this from rooftops for years. Some knick fans just arent prepared for what needs to be done. The way this team is currently constructed it will never get out of the second round. It needs to be blown up. Trade carmelo while he still has trade value. Dont just clear cap with nothing in return, get back picks and start to finally rebuild this team. It is the only way forward.
I think it was irony .... We can't blow up the team every time some Knicks fan doesn't like a player ... But it seems many are convinced that this is a wise strategy that works ...
Hurry up New York!!!!!! I'm waiting patiently...
BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
Papabear Says
Blowing a team up just because you are pissed off because the team didn't come to your expectations?
What happens if the next group of players do bad blow that team up too?? The reason why we don't have a great team is because Sterns and the NBA have thier foot on our neck. Every law that they put in place was geared to block the big markets. The knicks franchise is the riches in the league. We could spend 150 million dollar a year on players and still make money. I'll give you an example the Yankees out spent everyone in baseball thats why they won they could out bid everyone.
The NBA is getting like pop warner baseball and football. Give little Johnny his chance to play no matter how bad he is. Give the little markets a chance to compete also. This is not how our financial institution are. May the strongest win. Who has the money and willing to place the biggest bid gets the prize. But not in the watered down NBA and their cheating refs.
Papabear wrote:BasketballJones wrote:They say “you can’t rebuild in New York”. I say it is time we did. In order to do so we must learn to be more patient.- The first step in learning to be more patient is to fire the coach. It has been 40 years since the Knicks won a championship. Need I say more? Making the playoffs for two years in a row, and getting passed the first round for the first time since the year 2000 is not good enough. We demand more and we demand it now.
- The second step in learning to be more patient is to blow up the team and bring in some young’uns. We cannot cure our impatience by staying the course; we must be prepared to throw out the current strategy -- because it didn’t work right away.
- If either of the above steps does not yield fruit immediately, I think we should be prepared to change course again. It’s the patient thing to do.
Remember Knick fans. We are special people, and we are entitled to a championship. We just need to be more patient and demand immediate results.
Papabear Says
Blowing a team up just because you are pissed off because the team didn't come to your expectations?
What happens if the next group of players do bad blow that team up too?? The reason why we don't have a great team is because Sterns and the NBA have thier foot on our neck. Every law that they put in place was geared to block the big markets. The knicks franchise is the riches in the league. We could spend 150 million dollar a year on players and still make money. I'll give you an example the Yankees out spent everyone in baseball thats why they won they could out bid everyone.
The NBA is getting like pop warner baseball and football. Give little Johnny his chance to play no matter how bad he is. Give the little markets a chance to compete also. This is not how our financial institution are. May the strongest win. Who has the money and willing to place the biggest bid gets the prize. But not in the watered down NBA and their cheating refs.
he should have used green font... he is messing around.
dont agree on the yanks analogy fully. the 90s run into now had quite a number of home grown guys, decent trades, and some decent free agent pickups. money allows them to absorb poor performers. outside of that, the recent run (past 10 years) is they havent won as much as bos/stl/sf.
