Thank goodness for keeping your cards close to the vest.
I really thought Kidd was gonna retire. Dude looked like he used up everything he had left the first 2 months of the season.
IT doesn't really matter if Kidd retires on not because of the salary cap situation. It just creates another roster spot. I guess there is a chance to miss out on another low cost Gem.
FEELS GREAT KNOWING WE HAVE OPTIONS?
Copeland already said he doesn't desire to leave...so the
Camby trade
Kidd signing
Novak signing
Felton trade
J.R. and Chris future deals
Are the gifts that keep on giving
Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.
Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.
if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.
yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.
if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.
Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.
NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.
if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.
Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.
Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless? A 4 million dollar one year deal is not tox win you get 3 million back and take back some more salary cap. It not only about the cap they save next year but the salary they save in the going years. Camby's contract could possibly save a team 12-18 million
yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.
if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.
Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.
A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?
Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?
NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
Because Beasley is in Gentry's dog house. Just like Novak here in NYC.
NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.
if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.
Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.
A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?
Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?
Camby 3rd year is not guaranteed. A team can cut him without paying the 4 mill and change.
Hedo:
Although Turkoglu is scheduled to earn $12 million in 2013-14, only $6 million of that figure is guaranteed. So, if you're the Magic, why pay him $12 million instead of $6 million?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013...
AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Once Isiah is hired as GM again of an NBA team this Crack Pipe Dream just might come true.
yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.
if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.
Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.
A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?
Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?
Camby 3rd year is not guaranteed. A team can cut him without paying the 4 mill and change.
Hedo:
Although Turkoglu is scheduled to earn $12 million in 2013-14, only $6 million of that figure is guaranteed. So, if you're the Magic, why pay him $12 million instead of $6 million?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013...
$1.3-1.9mil of his lat yr is guaranteed, so really it's not that good looking of a deal, especially when you're talking about a 40yr+ player.
AnubisADL wrote:NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
Because Beasley is in Gentry's dog house. Just like Novak here in NYC.
Beasley? When sober, he's pretty comparable to JR snorting.
3G4G wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:NYKBocker wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.
they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.
if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.
Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.
A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?
Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?
Camby 3rd year is not guaranteed. A team can cut him without paying the 4 mill and change.
Hedo:
Although Turkoglu is scheduled to earn $12 million in 2013-14, only $6 million of that figure is guaranteed. So, if you're the Magic, why pay him $12 million instead of $6 million?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013...
$1.3-1.9mil of his lat yr is guaranteed, so really it's not that good looking of a deal, especially when you're talking about a 40yr+ player.
This is theoretical but if you saving over 10 mill I don't think that 1.9 is that big. You are still potentially saving so much more.
Arguments being made here just shows how hard it's going to be to field a roster next year that can help Melo passed the 2nd round. I still think that the best option is to blow it up and get max value for Melo.
3G4G wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.
Once Isiah is hired as GM again of an NBA team this Crack Pipe Dream just might come true.
Yes we need your boy Terrence Williams aka Mr Gunplay. Dude pulled a gun on the mother of his child a few days ago. Lmao.
I believe we cannot match the offer of both Copeland or/and Pablo, at least not after 3m
If we do match, it will require using our MINI MLE, so either way we are screwed
Why would a team need to trade for them unless they are over the cap and do not want to spend the exemptions on them?
Spur's/Pacer's have the cap room to do such moves while they both will benefit of each other with the way they compliment each other
I think Copeland can easily get 3-5m depending on the number of years he wants
While Pablo can range from vet min to 2m
Again Miami will find many solid vet min players searching for their ring like Barnes/Dunleavey/Nate in addition to a 3m mini MLE steal like Tony Allen being a realistic target
In addition to the players in the East getting better with cap space/MLE/draft picks/trades and injuries the health of Rose/Rhondo/Wall etc
