loweyecue wrote:gunsnewing wrote:It's ok. We still have a lot of cap room in 2020. No big deal
Or 2085, whichever comes first. BTW - Welcome back
Thanks bro. It's good to be back. The fact that the season blew up in our faces makes it easier to post and be honest without being called a hater since everyone is in agreement that the team is/was severely flawed
GustavBahler wrote:CrushAlot wrote:well he played for two mil last year was the second best player on the team and won sixth man of the year. He sucked in the playoffs but next year he wont have to be the second option. I think this is a good signing. Knicks either get jr or get nothing. It will be interesting to see if the fourth year is a team option.
I hope we will be good enough to have the luxury of burying Smith deep on the bench if he goes back to the constant partying and the bad decision making on and off the floor. Hope Smith shows the Knicks that they made the right decision. Stay tuned I guess...
Hope is not a strategy. We just fudged our 2015 plan.......same old Knicks
gunsnewing wrote:loweyecue wrote:gunsnewing wrote:It's ok. We still have a lot of cap room in 2020. No big deal
Or 2085, whichever comes first. BTW - Welcome back
Thanks bro. It's good to be back. The fact that the season blew up in our faces makes it easier to post and be honest without being called a hater since everyone is in agreement that the team is/was severely flawed
Not quite everyone, half the board thinks it's Novak and Tyson's fault. 
gunsnewing wrote:loweyecue wrote:gunsnewing wrote:It's ok. We still have a lot of cap room in 2020. No big deal
Or 2085, whichever comes first. BTW - Welcome back
Thanks bro. It's good to be back. The fact that the season blew up in our faces makes it easier to post and be honest without being called a hater since everyone is in agreement that the team is/was severely flawed
I respect fans who are both loyal and are not afraid to be honest about some of the questionable moves the knicks tend to make
gunsnewing wrote:Amare will be dealt in within 2yrs for another castoff with a bad contract. Salary Cap hell into the 2020's Bank on it
don't forget we will give away draft picks in that trade also.
Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Amare will be dealt in within 2yrs for another castoff with a bad contract. Salary Cap hell into the 2020's Bank on it
don't forget we will give away draft picks in that trade also.
draft pick - shmaft pick, we can give up draft picks to buy a subway sandwich and it would still be good value. Just ask Isia...I mean Grunwald.
I don't get the intense negativity. This team will actually be better than it was last year. All we can do is try to keep improving the team while keeping continuity. If we do re-sign JR, i'm guessing they'll add an opt out for 2015. Even if they don't that doesn't spell the end for the teams prospects for the future. I think there is WAY too much panic and exaggeration going on with the Knick fan base. This team should have a better mix of talent this year and should be better prepared for the playoffs. The talent in the East is getting better and I think the Knicks are doing the best they can to improve.
loweyecue wrote:GustavBahler wrote:CrushAlot wrote:well he played for two mil last year was the second best player on the team and won sixth man of the year. He sucked in the playoffs but next year he wont have to be the second option. I think this is a good signing. Knicks either get jr or get nothing. It will be interesting to see if the fourth year is a team option.
I hope we will be good enough to have the luxury of burying Smith deep on the bench if he goes back to the constant partying and the bad decision making on and off the floor. Hope Smith shows the Knicks that they made the right decision. Stay tuned I guess...
Hope is not a strategy. We just fudged our 2015 plan.......same old Knicks
Its not my strategy, I have no say in the matter, so all I or anyone else can do is hope that it works out.
Maybe we will trade JR in 2-3yrs along with a 1st Rd and two 2nd Rd picks to clear the cap for 2015.
Knicks front office lacks a backbone. Too soft the way they cater to nobodies
nixluva wrote:I don't get the intense negativity. This team will actually be better than it was last year. All we can do is try to keep improving the team while keeping continuity. If we do re-sign JR, i'm guessing they'll add an opt out for 2015. Even if they don't that doesn't spell the end for the teams prospects for the future. I think there is WAY too much panic and exaggeration going on with the Knick fan base. This team should have a better mix of talent this year and should be better prepared for the playoffs. The talent in the East is getting better and I think the Knicks are doing the best they can to improve.
to be fair we dont know if we will be better than last year. Last year a lot of things broke right for us. I mean we gotta figure the bulls and pacers will be better since they will have their top players back. the nets are also better next year at least
Another thing, Melo is getting a raise after next year in the $25-30mil range
Looks like all acrobats and clowns will be back.
And we get a couple of new funny faces.
Should be a lot of fun next year. Can't wait...
nixluva wrote:I don't get the intense negativity. This team will actually be better than it was last year. All we can do is try to keep improving the team while keeping continuity. If we do re-sign JR, i'm guessing they'll add an opt out for 2015. Even if they don't that doesn't spell the end for the teams prospects for the future. I think there is WAY too much panic and exaggeration going on with the Knick fan base. This team should have a better mix of talent this year and should be better prepared for the playoffs. The talent in the East is getting better and I think the Knicks are doing the best they can to improve.
What panic? Negativity yes, but I see no panic. If we felt the team had somewhere to go and these trades were killing us we would panic, as it is we will be 5th in the East and then get kicked out of the playoffs again. We needed disruptive change and we got incremental change. We gave up picks to get Camby. But Woody REFUSED to play him even when he was healthy - now we gave up picks to dump him and Novak. And you are surprised by the negativity? Seriously?
loweyecue wrote:nixluva wrote:I don't get the intense negativity. This team will actually be better than it was last year. All we can do is try to keep improving the team while keeping continuity. If we do re-sign JR, i'm guessing they'll add an opt out for 2015. Even if they don't that doesn't spell the end for the teams prospects for the future. I think there is WAY too much panic and exaggeration going on with the Knick fan base. This team should have a better mix of talent this year and should be better prepared for the playoffs. The talent in the East is getting better and I think the Knicks are doing the best they can to improve.
What panic? Negativity yes, but I see no panic. If we felt the team had somewhere to go and these trades were killing us we would panic, as it is we will be 5th in the East and then get kicked out of the playoffs again. We needed disruptive change and we got incremental change. We gave up picks to get Camby. But Woody REFUSED to play him even when he was healthy - now we gave up picks to dump him and Novak. And you are surprised by the negativity? Seriously?
The Knicks organization is very determined and actually very successfull in making this team exiting show.
If somebody is indeed thinking that this team has a goal to win a Title or win in general he can panic and be negative all he want.
Because he will be right to be negative. If somebody is this guy he should go find another team to root for.
Show must go on!!!
the spurs re-sign ginobili after his brutal playoff performance and very sub par season and there fans are happy..
Jr will have a decent tradable contract
yea we will trade JR in 2-3 along with 1st and 2nd rd picks. No worries
knicks1248 wrote:the spurs re-sign ginobili after his brutal playoff performance and very sub par season and there fans are happy..Jr will have a decent tradable contract
um you cant compare ginobli and jr smith. Yes ginobly had a bad postseason but ginobli has a track record with the spurs and championships. I mean i understand there are some that refuse to criticize any Knick decision but at least state a factual argument
It can't be 4 years guaranteed. Can't be. There must be a team option or a buyout after the 2nd year. Otherwise, nothing makes any kind of fucking sense. What the fuck would be the point of trading picks unless it was to dump Novak's contract?
nixluva wrote:I don't get the intense negativity. This team will actually be better than it was last year. All we can do is try to keep improving the team while keeping continuity. If we do re-sign JR, i'm guessing they'll add an opt out for 2015. Even if they don't that doesn't spell the end for the teams prospects for the future. I think there is WAY too much panic and exaggeration going on with the Knick fan base. This team should have a better mix of talent this year and should be better prepared for the playoffs. The talent in the East is getting better and I think the Knicks are doing the best they can to improve.
I agree. Smith's playoff performance was horrible but the guy had a great year. Check out what guys were saying when it looked like the Knicks wouldn't be able to afford him.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:I don't get the intense negativity. This team will actually be better than it was last year. All we can do is try to keep improving the team while keeping continuity. If we do re-sign JR, i'm guessing they'll add an opt out for 2015. Even if they don't that doesn't spell the end for the teams prospects for the future. I think there is WAY too much panic and exaggeration going on with the Knick fan base. This team should have a better mix of talent this year and should be better prepared for the playoffs. The talent in the East is getting better and I think the Knicks are doing the best they can to improve.
I agree. Smith's playoff performance was horrible but the guy had a great year. Check out what guys were saying when it looked like the Knicks wouldn't be able to afford him.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
I dont think people mind having JR here next year. They just dont want to give him a 4 year deal which i agree with. also the playoffs are kind of important for a "win now" team so its not good enough that he had a good regular season and an awful playoffs
StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:I don't get the intense negativity. This team will actually be better than it was last year. All we can do is try to keep improving the team while keeping continuity. If we do re-sign JR, i'm guessing they'll add an opt out for 2015. Even if they don't that doesn't spell the end for the teams prospects for the future. I think there is WAY too much panic and exaggeration going on with the Knick fan base. This team should have a better mix of talent this year and should be better prepared for the playoffs. The talent in the East is getting better and I think the Knicks are doing the best they can to improve.
I agree. Smith's playoff performance was horrible but the guy had a great year. Check out what guys were saying when it looked like the Knicks wouldn't be able to afford him.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
I dont think people mind having JR here next year. They just dont want to give him a 4 year deal which i agree with. also the playoffs are kind of important for a "win now" team so its not good enough that he had a good regular season and an awful playoffs
I agree about the playoffs. However, how many teams had to rely on a guy making 2 million to be their second best player in the second round. I can't think of one. It is a fair deal and I think JR played himself out of a lot of money. He made strides last year. The guy is still only 27. Hopefully he grows up some more. He is good signing in my opinion he just shouldn't be the second option.
