Off Topic · Happy 4th of July Surveliance day (page 1)

playa2 @ 7/4/2013 3:17 PM
On this day I cannot help but reflect on the irony and how the fourth of July has come to signify independence from financial and political oppression yet in 1913 the government of the united states of America was manipulated into giving that independence over to the global banking cartel, an act of treason by the elected officials and public servants of the day that resulted in two world wars, the birth of the military, energy and financial industrial complexes and debt slavery status for every individual from cradle to grave.

When Bush Shredded the Constitution after 9/11 all people did was blame ALL Politicians and make excuses for Bush by saying that he wasn't REALLY in control anyway and everybody was stuck in the "Left/Right False Paradigm". All of a sudden Obama wrote the Patriot act and is single handedly orchestrating the fall of American Democracy. LOL

Most of us are not stuck in the left/right paradigm but whine about it pretty equally, but yet many are still thinking in terms of Bush vs Obama.

So who is really stuck in the left/right paradigm? Guess what? when I pull up to the gas station they don't have a republic pump and a democratic pump. You need to re-educated yourself and realize that it's nothing but theater. Mortal enemies in front of the American people fighting for the just cause (supposedly), but once you pull back the drape and look at what's really going on, they are all drinking the same koolaid working towards the same objective.

Bush implemented a lot of this mess and did a lateral pass to Obama and he's continuing to run it down the field while giving us this complete garbage about hope and change that most of America bought into. But realize one thing people they are both wearing the same jersey.


I AM Playa and I'm sticking to my story.

jrodmc @ 7/9/2013 8:37 AM
I voted for Alan Keyes. Four times!


So there!

Nalod @ 7/10/2013 11:24 AM
PLaya plagerize again.

Very sad.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1...

Im sure your not alone.

playa2 @ 7/11/2013 5:54 AM
Why do you follow me around, who do you work for really, nobody else does this but you. hmmmm
Nalod @ 7/11/2013 8:05 AM
IF you don't know who I work for, then you DO know don't you?
IronWillGiroud @ 7/13/2013 9:06 AM
i don't like this conspiracy stuff not because of any specific conspiracy argument,

i don't like it because conspiracy thinking is rooted in a victim mentality, the mentality of a loser,

because when considering conspiracy theories you are limiting your mind, you are putting a cap on your future because you have this ready excuse for failure, that something else is to blame for your station in life, that's the bottom of it,

conspiracy theory is basically saying that something or someone else is to blame for your station today

IronWillGiroud @ 7/13/2013 9:09 AM
put it this way: people that are truly thriving in life, i do not think they spend much time thinking about these youtube videos
playa2 @ 7/13/2013 10:13 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:

i don't like it because conspiracy thinking is rooted in a victim mentality, the mentality of a loser,

because when considering conspiracy theories you are limiting your mind, you are putting a cap on your future because you have this ready excuse for failure, that something else is to blame for your station in life, that's the bottom of it,

conspiracy theory is basically saying that something or someone else is to blame for your station today

LOL

You are saying a person who thinks outside of the main stream media reports is limiting their minds and is a loser. Are you also saying people are a failure and has a low life mentality and isn't prosperous.

You are out of touch with this UN-informed thinking.

When your countries freedom are being taking away, right from under your nose and you don't know it, then you are being dumbed down, too preoccupied with with the cares of this life to know what's really of value & important to All born and raised Americans way of life.

Nalod @ 7/13/2013 11:15 AM
playa2 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:

i don't like it because conspiracy thinking is rooted in a victim mentality, the mentality of a loser,

because when considering conspiracy theories you are limiting your mind, you are putting a cap on your future because you have this ready excuse for failure, that something else is to blame for your station in life, that's the bottom of it,

conspiracy theory is basically saying that something or someone else is to blame for your station today

LOL

You are saying a person who thinks outside of the main stream media reports is limiting their minds and is a loser. Are you also saying people are a failure and has a low life mentality and isn't prosperous.

You are out of touch with this UN-informed thinking.

When your countries freedom are being taking away, right from under your nose and you don't know it, then you are being dumbed down, too preoccupied with with the cares of this life to know what's really of value & important to All born and raised Americans way of life.

Great convo by two of our extreme thinkers!

Nalod @ 7/13/2013 11:29 AM

Conspiracy Theories are for Losers


Joseph E. Uscinski
University of Miami

Joseph Parent
University of Miami

Bethany Torres
State University of New York (SUNY) - Buffalo

2011

APSA 2011 Annual Meeting Paper

Abstract:
What drives conspiracy theorizing in the United States? Conspiracy theories can undermine the legitimacy and efficacy of government policy, and sometimes lead to violence. Unfortunately prior studies on the topic have been anecdotal and impressionistic. For purchase on this problem, we attempt the first systematic data collection of conspiracy theories at the mass and elite levels by examining published letters to the editor of the New York Times from 1897 to 2010 and a validating sample from the Chicago Tribune. We argue that perceived power asymmetries, indicated by international and domestic conflicts, influence when and why conspiracy theories resonate in the U.S. On this reasoning, conspiracy theories conform to a strategic logic that helps vulnerable groups manage threats. Further, we find that both sides of the domestic partisan divide partake in conspiracy theorizing equally, though in an alternating pattern, and foreign conspiracy theories crowd out domestic conspiracy theories during heightened foreign threat.

Number of Pages in PDF File: 67

Keywords: conspiracy, conspiracy theory, epistemology, threat, truther, birther

working papers series

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?a...


Playa, since you have made this a big part of your value system might do well to read it. Not saying you should adapt or believe it, but perhaps to better understand the influence that moves the "theorists" that you very much digest. Sort reading the box of ingredients before you eat something.

I have kept an open mind an looked your stuff, you might do well to give it some consideration. Different views keeps life in balance. I have enjoyed the theorist material but to me its not like a religion where one believes or not. I think some things have valid concerns but a lot is fabricated as well.

Im a "centrist" type thinker who accepts many points view. There are many truths in life.

IronWillGiroud @ 7/14/2013 10:20 AM
playa2 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:

i don't like it because conspiracy thinking is rooted in a victim mentality, the mentality of a loser,

because when considering conspiracy theories you are limiting your mind, you are putting a cap on your future because you have this ready excuse for failure, that something else is to blame for your station in life, that's the bottom of it,

conspiracy theory is basically saying that something or someone else is to blame for your station today

LOL

You are saying a person who thinks outside of the main stream media reports is limiting their minds and is a loser. Are you also saying people are a failure and has a low life mentality and isn't prosperous.

You are out of touch with this UN-informed thinking.

When your countries freedom are being taking away, right from under your nose and you don't know it, then you are being dumbed down, too preoccupied with with the cares of this life to know what's really of value & important to All born and raised Americans way of life.

you don't get it,

all types of regimes come and go, and in every regime from soviet ruski to that guy in zimbabwe, in every regime there are people who thrive, that navigate the rivers,

today in america, more people then ever have opportunity to navigate the rivers and become wealthy, i do not see problem,

you must navigate the rivers playa

playa2 @ 7/14/2013 11:53 AM
Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

IronWillGiroud @ 7/14/2013 2:38 PM
playa2 wrote:Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

wealth is what success is measured by

Bonn1997 @ 7/14/2013 4:08 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

wealth is what success is measured by

Says who?

IronWillGiroud @ 7/14/2013 8:50 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

wealth is what success is measured by

Says who?


god, he told us to be fruitful and multiply

IronWillGiroud @ 7/14/2013 8:50 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

wealth is what success is measured by

Says who?


god, he told us to be fruitful and multiply

he didn't tell us to develop obsession with conspiracy theories

playa2 @ 7/15/2013 8:14 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

wealth is what success is measured by

Says who?


god, he told us to be fruitful and multiply

he didn't tell us to develop obsession with conspiracy theories

Didn't he also say the LOVE of money is the root of all EVIL ?

Nalod @ 7/15/2013 11:00 PM
playa2 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

wealth is what success is measured by

Says who?


god, he told us to be fruitful and multiply

he didn't tell us to develop obsession with conspiracy theories

Didn't he also say the LOVE of money is the root of all EVIL ?

Google "conspiracy theory money makers" and eat crow playa.

I know you think that any criticism of the genre must be part of the the conspiracy itself, but thats whats so freaking funny about it. Sucking money playing on fears.

I know you won't believe it, but just remember while your chuckling out loud the world is laughing at you. See you in the internment camp!

fishmike @ 7/17/2013 2:00 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...everything you need to know, from one of the world's biggest conspiracy sellers. What happened? He learned the truth and was demonized by those who had once listened to him.

Why?

Simple.. its not the truth these folks seek. Its spreading fear and drama and some misguided effort to regain control of a land they have no real clue about anyway.

Playa.. your theories always fall short when it comes to implementation. Massive media outlets controled by bankers and goverment. Government orchestrated school shootings to justify tougher gun laws in order to strengthen the government's militia (easily your worst)... we could go on all day. They are fancy ideas you promote, but your thinking comes short, always when it comes to implementation. Sure.. there is tons of corruption. There are a greater amount of wanna be whistle blowers dying to be the next hero to uncover some great government wrong doing. The things you suggest take place are impossible to execute in the real world. Have you given no thought to that?

fishmike @ 7/17/2013 2:07 PM
"There’s a professional victimhood in conspiracy theorists. There’s a hatred of high achievers."
makes a lot of sense doesnt it when you consider the targets and the birdies doing the chirping doesnt it. psych101
jrodmc @ 7/17/2013 2:20 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:Why do you think the only value in life is to be WEALTHY ?

Shows that you don't understand the purpose of life. You have been brainwashed or just never been taught the true value of the living.

wealth is what success is measured by

Says who?


god, he told us to be fruitful and multiply

That was in direct relationship to breeding and populating the earth. Money hadn't been invented yet.
IWG, Please go back to walking in the grass barefoot and leave the bible alone.

"Sell all you have and give it to the poor, then come and follow me."

playa, it's okay. Obama's got all the bullets. He's printing all the money. The media doesn't even like him that much anymore.
You happen to be free to type on the internet all day every day and expose whatever it is you feel like. America lives!

BTW, what's the consipiracy behind the Zimmerman verdict? Was it to start Charlie Manson's race wars?

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