Just professing my admiration for Sam Dalembert...I think he is better than Tyson if he became a Knick we could entertain trading Tyson's 14 mill contract....
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EnySpree wrote:Just professing my admiration for Sam Dalembert...I think he is better than Tyson if he became a Knick we could entertain trading Tyson's 14 mill contract....
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I wonder if we have a deal that we are deciding for Tyson Chandler already, probably not exactly what Grunweld wants in return though We have been in contact with players like Monta Ellis, Brandon Wright, Carolos Delfino, Nate Robinson, Brand, Dalembert, and a bunch of other players that are WAY out of our pay range For instance, Monta Ellis?
It makes me think sometimes, if there is a offer for Tyson Chandler like a large trade exemption and 1 maybe 2 2nd round picks If not, what the hell is Grunweld even wasting his time for FA's that are way beyond his price range... I hope Bargnani wasn't what he meant by creative...
Maybe, just maybe, he really does have something creative up his sleeve, and lets not forget he still has yet to use the 3m we could use every year in potential trades We have 5-6 roster spots *depending if we count CJ Leslie* who's contract is partial guaranteed and will likely make it to at least training camp I did not count JR Smith's brother, Chris Smith, and I hope we don't waste a spot on him because not only is he not worth one, it could possibly get us in trouble by doing deals *under the table* breaking terms of the rules in NBA, causing us to lose possibly even more draft picks like Twolves did with Joe Smith...
EnySpree@ 7/13/2013 8:55 PM
makes you wonder cuz the initial signing of Tyson was out of no where....the Felton trade was out of no where....Signing Smith, Kmart...Bargnani for Christ sakes....
Sam Dalembert would probably sign for that 1.7 mill if it meant he could start for the ny knicks and be back in the playoffs. Huge hatian community in nyc.
Here's a stupid trade to get killed by the UK massive....Tyson for Gerald Wallace...we wouldn't need Metta if we did that.
Starters: Melo, Bargs, Dalembert, Felton, Shump
Bench: Amare, JR, Gerald Wallace, Priggy, Hardaway, Leslie, Tyler, maybe Kmart or Tyrus Thomas etc...
damn good basketball team....Fuck the nets
StarksEwing1@ 7/13/2013 9:13 PM
Well the Knicks damn well better do something to improve the frontcourt. Teams like the nets pacers and bulls will kill us next year down low in the paint
yellowboy90@ 7/13/2013 9:18 PM
nothing will come of this and do people ever wonder why Sam was benched last year and has been traveling from team to team?
I think 3g is getting to me.
EnySpree@ 7/13/2013 9:30 PM
the truth is if Dalembert played 33 mins per his numbers would be similar to Tysons....better actually if you count his blocks and ability to finish in the paint with something other than a dunk. and a jumpshot
EnySpree@ 7/13/2013 9:49 PM
This is why I stand by my belief that Sam Dalembert is better than Tyson....Dalembert has a jump hook he can lay it up, put the ball on the floor...shoot the jumper. Its a wonder why nobody is using him. He has the skill to be a fixture somewhere.
yellowboy90@ 7/13/2013 9:50 PM
EnySpree wrote:the truth is if Dalembert played 33 mins per his numbers would be similar to Tysons....better actually if you count his blocks and ability to finish in the paint with something other than a dunk. and a jumpshot
Similar yes maybe but can he play 30 minutes? I think he is a back up and a very good back up but I want to know why he was put on the shelf, especially when he puts up good numbers.
yellowboy90@ 7/13/2013 9:54 PM
I think he goes to Dallas
EnySpree@ 7/13/2013 10:00 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:the truth is if Dalembert played 33 mins per his numbers would be similar to Tysons....better actually if you count his blocks and ability to finish in the paint with something other than a dunk. and a jumpshot
Similar yes maybe but can he play 30 minutes? I think he is a back up and a very good back up but I want to know why he was put on the shelf, especially when he puts up good numbers.
good question....
when he was younger his knock was he had no offense...well he has the basic skill now so wtf?
With the Bucks they were playing the youth and the guys ahead of him that made more money....he got screwed cuz he dropped 35pts one game for them then started 4 games with great numbers and then back to the bench...no explaination.
it would be fantastic if the knicks could flip Tyson and get 1 rotation player and a trade exempton or 2 rotation players...we'd be stacked and will be better off with Dalembert at center...Bargs could play some center and so can Amare.
#knickstape
EnySpree@ 7/13/2013 10:02 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I think he goes to Dallas
Dallas is so annoying to me....I bet he does go there
yellowboy90@ 7/13/2013 10:12 PM
EnySpree wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think he goes to Dallas
Dallas is so annoying to me....I bet he does go there
They loss 2 straight summers in a row in FA. They put all their chips in the D. Williams and Howard Baskets. I guess they have their full mle left to give up to Dalembert.
Sangfroid@ 7/13/2013 10:55 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think he goes to Dallas
Dallas is so annoying to me....I bet he does go there
They loss 2 straight summers in a row in FA. They put all their chips in the D. Williams and Howard Baskets. I guess they have their full mle left to give up to Dalembert.
If Chandler is getting 14 mil, Sam is worth AT LEAST the rest of our MLE.
IronWillGiroud@ 7/14/2013 1:37 AM
oh sweet jezus plz deliver us this sam dalembert because tyson is fugazi
smackeddog@ 7/14/2013 3:20 AM
EnySpree wrote:makes you wonder cuz the initial signing of Tyson was out of no where....the Felton trade was out of no where....Signing Smith, Kmart...Bargnani for Christ sakes....
Sam Dalembert would probably sign for that 1.7 mill if it meant he could start for the ny knicks and be back in the playoffs. Huge hatian community in nyc.
Here's a stupid trade to get killed by the UK massive....Tyson for Gerald Wallace...we wouldn't need Metta if we did that.
Starters: Melo, Bargs, Dalembert, Felton, Shump
Bench: Amare, JR, Gerald Wallace, Priggy, Hardaway, Leslie, Tyler, maybe Kmart or Tyrus Thomas etc...
damn good basketball team....Fuck the nets
Ha ha ha! Oh come on, this Tyson hate is getting beyond ridiculous! Gerald Wallace is THE WORST CONTRACT in the nba- 3 years and $30mil means its longer than Amar'es. Seriously, that's what you honestly think Tysons value is?! Because he stunk in the playoffs following illness and injury?!
Also think people are way over valuing Dalembert- why do you think no team has signed him yet? His stats have always looked great but fans of every team that he's played for despise him- go ask 76er fans. His value right now is a maximum of $3mil per season. He had a shot at signing for the HEAT and becoming their starting center for the MLE a year or two ago, but seemed to think he was worth more (he wasn't).
Last I read mavs were interested- I think they've nearly spent all their money so maybe he gets $2.5-$3mil. Likely Grunnie can see the money is drying up so he thought he'd give it a shot. Not going to happen though.
Tyson for Gerald Wallace... sheesh, ridiculous! Do you really believe that?!
EnySpree@ 7/14/2013 5:50 AM
Hey smackdog
I posted that trade idea knowing it would get killed. "do you really believe that?" Get Ira here with that.
As far as dalembert, i stated how i felt about it so no need to repeat what i said in an earlier post.
Here's something new.....i wonder what bobcat fats think of Tyson Chandler? He played like shit for them the one year he was there. They immediately got rid of him and then he catches fire in Dallas.
Please bro. The proof is in the tape...dalembert is a better player than Tyson. Just like Tyson the dude needs a chance to prove himself.
smackeddog@ 7/14/2013 10:52 AM
By the way, this rumor is based on Zwerling spotting Dalembert's agent and Grunnie talking. However another client of his agent is FA PG Ben Udrih- more likely Grunnie was inquiring about him.
Bonn1997@ 7/14/2013 11:00 AM
He's an FA, right? He'd be an excellent pick-up
Bonn1997@ 7/14/2013 11:01 AM
Sangfroid wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think he goes to Dallas
Dallas is so annoying to me....I bet he does go there
They loss 2 straight summers in a row in FA. They put all their chips in the D. Williams and Howard Baskets. I guess they have their full mle left to give up to Dalembert.
If Chandler is getting 14 mil, Sam is worth AT LEAST the rest of our MLE.
He's worth much more than that - at least $5 mil per. If we could get him for the rest of the MLE that would be great.
smackeddog@ 7/14/2013 11:08 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think he goes to Dallas
Dallas is so annoying to me....I bet he does go there
They loss 2 straight summers in a row in FA. They put all their chips in the D. Williams and Howard Baskets. I guess they have their full mle left to give up to Dalembert.
If Chandler is getting 14 mil, Sam is worth AT LEAST the rest of our MLE.
He's worth much more than that - at least $5 mil per. If we could get him for the rest of the MLE that would be great.
Again, I think there's seriously something iffy about him- looking at his stats and his highlights, he should be starting for a team and hauling in a reasonable contract, instead he was lucky to get 16 mins last season on a poor Bucks team, was in and out of the rotation and can't even get a $3mil contract now. And I really don't know what it is- I know Sixer fans hated him, but I'm not entirely sure why. On paper he looks like a great back up C, but I find it strange that he hasn't been able to land a good contract for a few years and has struggled to get big minutes.
Anyways he likely goes to the mavs- they can offer him $3mil and a lot of minutes.
gunsnewing@ 7/14/2013 11:08 AM
EnySpree wrote:the truth is if Dalembert played 33 mins per his numbers would be similar to Tysons....better actually if you count his blocks and ability to finish in the paint with something other than a dunk. and a jumpshot
If Camby played 30mins he'd be better than Tyson too
