^ Have not seen a lot of Tyler. I do like that he is young and tall and likes to attack the basket. 3 things I want him to work on.
1. Box Out! Dude does not like to box out.
2. Better post defense. He looks like a turnstile when guarding one-on-one in the post.
3. Better footwork in the post. Clyde mentioned it a couple of times when he looses his footing off a couple of post moves.
DurzoBlint wrote:What happened to E-Barron. Dude looked good to very good in his short stint with us but, then got no burn during the playoffs despite having a skill set that was desperately needed at the time. Hasn't been resigned by the Knicks or anyone else as far as I know. There HAS to be something going on with him.
The dude earned a place in the NBA 4 years ago.....yet still he's on the outside looking in every year. NBA politics.
they should replace amare's appointment with tyler for "post game school"
NYKBocker wrote:^ Have not seen a lot of Tyler. I do like that he is young and tall and likes to attack the basket. 3 things I want him to work on.1. Box Out! Dude does not like to box out.
2. Better post defense. He looks like a turnstile when guarding one-on-one in the post.
3. Better footwork in the post. Clyde mentioned it a couple of times when he looses his footing off a couple of post moves.
Part of me wonders if he is coach able because fundamentals wise he is a train wreck.Is it because of the bouncing around from team to team and other countries? He looks like he is a HS basketball player dealing with a growth spurt and is clumsy but he is 22.He has NBA Physical ability and U can feel the energy he brings on the court.My hope for him if he stays on the Knicks roster for a whole season practicing with the players and coaches he will add some refinement to his game. I certainly believe there is mold-able ability.
Jmpasq wrote:NYKBocker wrote:^ Have not seen a lot of Tyler. I do like that he is young and tall and likes to attack the basket. 3 things I want him to work on.1. Box Out! Dude does not like to box out.
2. Better post defense. He looks like a turnstile when guarding one-on-one in the post.
3. Better footwork in the post. Clyde mentioned it a couple of times when he looses his footing off a couple of post moves.
Part of me wonders if he is coach able because fundamentals wise he is a train wreck.Is it because of the bouncing around from team to team and other countries? He looks like he is a HS basketball player dealing with a growth spurt and is clumsy but he is 22.He has NBA Physical ability and U can feel the energy he brings on the court.My hope for him if he stays on the Knicks roster for a whole season practicing with the players and coaches he will add some refinement to his game. I certainly believe there is mold-able ability.
Great point. Maturity level has to be in question here. I think Hassan Whiteside has the same problems. I read somewhere that even though Whiteside has great measurables the kid just not very coachable hence he is not in an NBA roster. Hopefully Tyler can follow Javele McGee and start listening to his coaches. At least that is the word out of Denver that he has finally gotten it.
Jmpasq wrote:NYKBocker wrote:^ Have not seen a lot of Tyler. I do like that he is young and tall and likes to attack the basket. 3 things I want him to work on.1. Box Out! Dude does not like to box out.
2. Better post defense. He looks like a turnstile when guarding one-on-one in the post.
3. Better footwork in the post. Clyde mentioned it a couple of times when he looses his footing off a couple of post moves.
Part of me wonders if he is coach able because fundamentals wise he is a train wreck.Is it because of the bouncing around from team to team and other countries? He looks like he is a HS basketball player dealing with a growth spurt and is clumsy but he is 22.He has NBA Physical ability and U can feel the energy he brings on the court.My hope for him if he stays on the Knicks roster for a whole season practicing with the players and coaches he will add some refinement to his game. I certainly believe there is mold-able ability.
Hopefully his struggles to find success humbled him. I think it might be smart for Tyler and Leslie to spend a lot of time playing for Erie this year. I am not sure what the coaching set up there is but I hope the Knicks have a developmental guy there to work with their guys.
I disagree. I want Tyler and Leslie to be up with the pros to see 1st hand what it takes to be on this level and watch guys like Artest, KMart and Tyson. They have GREAT work ethics and they know the ropes of being an NBA big man. Tyler has a few really bad habits that should be easy to correct with tough coaching. I'm SHOCKED that the Knicks haven't brought in Oakley to teach these guys have to bang and get position for rebounds. Still the bigs we have should provide tons of example on how to get it done.
nixluva wrote:I disagree. I want Tyler and Leslie to be up with the pros to see 1st hand what it takes to be on this level and watch guys like Artest, KMart and Tyson. They have GREAT work ethics and they know the ropes of being an NBA big man. Tyler has a few really bad habits that should be easy to correct with tough coaching. I'm SHOCKED that the Knicks haven't brought in Oakley to teach these guys have to bang and get position for rebounds. Still the bigs we have should provide tons of example on how to get it done.
That is a great point about being around role models. Not sure what would benefit them more once the season starts if they are just riding the bench. Cope certainly got a lot from being around the vets.
technomaster wrote:Do we still need a veteran big? (Jared Jeffries is still available - I had him almost as a lock to return, now it's looking doubtful)
Please no. Let the Fishlips era fade into Knickshistory like...like...Al Hurringupington and Clarence Whetherspoon...
Where have you gone, Bob Hill?
CrushAlot wrote:From an article prior to the 2011 draft.
Tyler spent this past season playing for the Tokyo Apache in Japan's second division alongside former NBA lottery pick Robert Swift while being coached by Bob Hill, the former head coach of the Seattle SuperSonics, San Antonio Spurs and Indiana Pacers (as well as Blake Griffin's personal trainer leading up the 2009 NBA Draft)."Watching the games, it is clear that Tyler thrived as Hill played him more at the 4 spot alongside Robert Swift at the 5," Lowman wrote of this drastic upturn in production. "Tyler showed his versatility away from the basket, including a drastically improved outside shot. Tyler's turnovers also dropped during this part of the season as he spent less time in the post getting double-teamed."
http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2011/5/3...
The Tokyo Apache? Seriously? Don't the Japanese know that Native American team names are un-PC???
I like how they don't even mention that he was our head coach for most of an entire season. Although Bob probably likes to leave that little blurb off his resume, too.
NYY1NYK2 wrote:they should replace amare's appointment with tyler for "post game school"
that is not a bad idea at all. Too bad that Hakeem likely won't be available. He said he would honor and past commitments like he had with Stat while focusing on working with the Bigs in Houston.
Jmpasq wrote:u guys want me to cut more summer league games?
Yes, please. Cuts of Toure Murry and Terrence Jennings would be much appreciated!
jrodmc wrote:technomaster wrote:Do we still need a veteran big? (Jared Jeffries is still available - I had him almost as a lock to return, now it's looking doubtful)
Please no. Let the Fishlips era fade into Knickshistory like...like...Al Hurringupington and Clarence Whetherspoon...
Where have you gone, Bob Hill?
CrushAlot wrote:From an article prior to the 2011 draft.
Tyler spent this past season playing for the Tokyo Apache in Japan's second division alongside former NBA lottery pick Robert Swift while being coached by Bob Hill, the former head coach of the Seattle SuperSonics, San Antonio Spurs and Indiana Pacers (as well as Blake Griffin's personal trainer leading up the 2009 NBA Draft)."Watching the games, it is clear that Tyler thrived as Hill played him more at the 4 spot alongside Robert Swift at the 5," Lowman wrote of this drastic upturn in production. "Tyler showed his versatility away from the basket, including a drastically improved outside shot. Tyler's turnovers also dropped during this part of the season as he spent less time in the post getting double-teamed."
http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2011/5/3...
The Tokyo Apache? Seriously? Don't the Japanese know that Native American team names are un-PC??? I like how they don't even mention that he was our head coach for most of an entire season. Although Bob probably likes to leave that little blurb off his resume, too.
To "Fishlips" credit though, he did redeem himself big time 2 years ago, he played his guts out. I absolutely despised him in his 1st go around here, but he even won me over.
jrodmc wrote:technomaster wrote:Do we still need a veteran big? (Jared Jeffries is still available - I had him almost as a lock to return, now it's looking doubtful)
Please no. Let the Fishlips era fade into Knickshistory like...like...Al Hurringupington and Clarence Whetherspoon...
Where have you gone, Bob Hill?
CrushAlot wrote:From an article prior to the 2011 draft.
Tyler spent this past season playing for the Tokyo Apache in Japan's second division alongside former NBA lottery pick Robert Swift while being coached by Bob Hill, the former head coach of the Seattle SuperSonics, San Antonio Spurs and Indiana Pacers (as well as Blake Griffin's personal trainer leading up the 2009 NBA Draft)."Watching the games, it is clear that Tyler thrived as Hill played him more at the 4 spot alongside Robert Swift at the 5," Lowman wrote of this drastic upturn in production. "Tyler showed his versatility away from the basket, including a drastically improved outside shot. Tyler's turnovers also dropped during this part of the season as he spent less time in the post getting double-teamed."
http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2011/5/3...
The Tokyo Apache? Seriously? Don't the Japanese know that Native American team names are un-PC??? I like how they don't even mention that he was our head coach for most of an entire season. Although Bob probably likes to leave that little blurb off his resume, too.
Do you remember Bob campaigning to be an assistant on Pitino's staff because he knew the players after he was let go as head coach.
