NYKBocker wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Suck or not, Felton arguably was the main reason we won the Boston series.How many playoff games did Lin help Houston win over OKC? ZERO.
Patrick Beverley is a better PG fit for Houston than Lin until proven otherwise. Lin would be good on like a suck ass team like a Philly or Orlando or a backup to Nash in LA.
Beverly plays well both ways. He's better than Lin and Felton combined.
Beverly has low bball IQ though. You know how many times he crashed the boards when he should have been hanging back to protect fast breaks? This happened all the time. He also misses a lot of open shooters.
He's holding his man to low production. So this can't be happening enough to be relevant. Whatever he's doing on the defensive end, it's working a little better than Lin and Felton do.
to small of a sample size for Beverly.
I don't care about Lin - he isn't a Knick anymore and I believe the contract is why he is no longer with us. I don't wish him bad or anything, but Linsanity is long over and we have bigger things to worry about.
Guy is speaking to youth and saying he put too much pressure on himself..
Better than not caring.
Rockets better than knicks now?
I wonder are the same people who are salary conscious over Lin the same people who like Melo? Because Melo is one of the worst deals in basketball, bar none.
Lin goes to a kid's camp admitting his faults in a very adult manner, and people are ragging on him? Are you guys for real?
Yes. Melo makes more than Lebron and people keep bringing up LIN's contract. When in reality It Is shorter than Felton's and at 25 Lin has upside. Felton is what he is
ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:just sayin' but in his bad season, his stats matched Felton's. Just sayin'.
yup
Yea, but Raymond Felton wasn't supposed to save New York Basketball like Jeremy "Houston's Savior" Lin.
and he makes half as much.
i don't know why guys are so crazy to write off lin,
he has a different learning curve than most guys in nba,
he'll be super,
Linsanity 2.0, I can sense it.
CrushAlot wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:just sayin' but in his bad season, his stats matched Felton's. Just sayin'.
yup
Yea, but Raymond Felton wasn't supposed to save New York Basketball like Jeremy "Houston's Savior" Lin.
and he makes half as much.
And signed through 2016 whereas Lin signed through 2015. We are over the cap through 2015
Lin is 25.
OasisBU wrote:I don't care about Lin - he isn't a Knick anymore and I believe the contract is why he is no longer with us. I don't wish him bad or anything, but Linsanity is long over and we have bigger things to worry about.
i agree. Not sure why the ny press keeps covering this. Lin has talked about this subject before and says the same thing.
gunsnewing wrote:CrushAlot wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:just sayin' but in his bad season, his stats matched Felton's. Just sayin'.
yup
Yea, but Raymond Felton wasn't supposed to save New York Basketball like Jeremy "Houston's Savior" Lin.
and he makes half as much.
And signed through 2016 whereas Lin signed through 2015. We are over the cap through 2015
Lin is 25.
and how old is felton today? It seems like you age him several years everytime you bring age up.
Maybe because the ny press was wrong and he is missed?
i have seen this kid beverley in person: he is straight up greased lightning. world class quickness, very impressive to witness. obviously you hope he is coachable vis a vis decision-making and genuine PG ball handling in which case he will surpass many point guards beyond lin and felton. but there's the rub: basketball is a game of skill and mind, especially in the backcourt. two years in college and then a european stint and he remains a question mark. if the knicks were interested in patient development then beverley would be a prime candidate.
I didn't have a problem with what Lin said, athletes have a great podium to speak from when trying to help develop kids in their character and that's what Lin has.
Lin is still young, now all he has to do is ball out!
Linsanity was a nice story (i even got his jersey) but i think it was more of a byproduct of the Dantoni system. even chris duhon looked good in that system. Hes an average NBA point guard; just like Ray felton is. id rather have a guard with experience and toughness like Ray. I dont think Lin has much upside but hes not a bad player. A starter on a bad team, a solid Jarret-Jack like backup on a good team
just my $0.02
the guy had free rain when insanity began, he had no one to throw the ball to..He was just going around screens in a spread offense, finding the open man or getting to the FT line. no amare or melo..when they came back it died down and considerably..
He doesn't have that same green light that he had under MDA, and just like melo stopped his free flow, harden poses a similar story..I like lins skills and IQ better then feltons toughness..
At the end of the day, there's very few players in the NBA worth 15mill..that contract was strickly to stop the Knicks from resigning him, it had very little to do with lins actual worth
Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
why are you comparing the length of there contracts?
knicks1248 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
why are you comparing the length of there contracts?
Because LIN's contract seems to be the only thing Lin haters keep falling back on. When Felton's contract is actually worse and more of a burden to the New York knicks
Yes that 3+ million is really going to hurt the Knicks in 2015 or 2016. At that price he is a nice trade asset or could make the slide to back up. Felton's contract length and salary is not an issue either way.
People act like the books have to be at zero.
Your points are valid. My problem is with the time leading up to 2015. Melo, Amare & Tyson ain't gettin any younger. I'm resigned to waiting til 2016. Just wish we had Lin in his prime at 28 and not Felton at 33 running the show