Your points are valid. My problem is with the time leading up to 2015. Melo, Amare & Tyson ain't gettin any younger. I'm resigned to waiting til 2016. Just wish we had Lin in his prime at 28 and not Felton at 33 running the show
gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
i was fired up during linsanity and i dont consider myself a hater. But lin could have played in the heat series and chose to not play on the usa select team because of his upcoming free agency. A lot of guys have come back a lot faster from that surgery. Not sure why his rehab is still a topic. Also, i would love to know if he is recovered from his chest injury. I think the injury in the nba is unique to jeremy. With parsons,howard, and harden lin has a a lot of talent to make a point guard look good. Its his job to lose if morey cant move his contract.
knickstorrents wrote:I wonder are the same people who are salary conscious over Lin the same people who like Melo? Because Melo is one of the worst deals in basketball, bar none.Lin goes to a kid's camp admitting his faults in a very adult manner, and people are ragging on him? Are you guys for real?
Melo this, Melo that. Oh please, you want to talk about not living up to your to salary then look no further than Amare and Tysoft. Amare doesn't even fucking play and you are are talking about melo not earning his salary. But regardless of all the actual overpaid bums on the Knicks you choose to disparage Melo. Hmm, I wonder why? I feel bad for some of you guys, you worry over melo more than LaLa does...
Melo is not the Knicks problem. PG is the problem. Lin is more talented than Felton. He is better at getting the overpaid player like Tyson involved
gunsnewing wrote:Melo is not the Knicks problem. PG is the problem. Lin is more talented than Felton. He is better at getting the overpaid player like Tyson involved
I disagree on the last part. Tyson touches stays relatively the same regardless the pg, especially in the playoffs. I think the best he did was with Felton in Charlotte.
Nalod wrote:Guy is speaking to youth and saying he put too much pressure on himself.. Better than not caring.
Rockets better than knicks now?
but, most of the guys bitching and moaning about the state of the Knicks are saying that being good isn't enough, that you all want a chip but, then to support your argument you say the Rocketts are better now? They didn't win it last season, do I see them winning this upcoming season. Until Linn does more than make a cameo appearance in the post season, until his play makes a difference WHEN IT MATTERS, then he and his supporters better get used to threads like this.
CrushAlot wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
i was fired up during linsanity and i dont consider myself a hater. But lin could have played in the heat series and chose to not play on the usa select team because of his upcoming free agency. A lot of guys have come back a lot faster from that surgery. Not sure why his rehab is still a topic. Also, i would love to know if he is recovered from his chest injury. I think the injury in the nba is unique to jeremy. With parsons,howard, and harden lin has a a lot of talent to make a point guard look good. Its his job to lose if morey cant move his contract.
if ANY current Knick had pulled that crap, those here would be screaming for him to be off the team. Hypocrites.
DurzoBlint wrote:Nalod wrote:Guy is speaking to youth and saying he put too much pressure on himself.. Better than not caring.
Rockets better than knicks now?
but, most of the guys bitching and moaning about the state of the Knicks are saying that being good isn't enough, that you all want a chip but, then to support your argument you say the Rocketts are better now? They didn't win it last season, do I see them winning this upcoming season. Until Linn does more than make a cameo appearance in the post season, until his play makes a difference WHEN IT MATTERS, then he and his supporters better get used to threads like this.
Houston got potentially an 8 to 10 year window to build a championship team when they acquired a 23 year old franchise player with only 3 years of 6th man minutes and wear and tear.
DurzoBlint wrote:CrushAlot wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
i was fired up during linsanity and i dont consider myself a hater. But lin could have played in the heat series and chose to not play on the usa select team because of his upcoming free agency. A lot of guys have come back a lot faster from that surgery. Not sure why his rehab is still a topic. Also, i would love to know if he is recovered from his chest injury. I think the injury in the nba is unique to jeremy. With parsons,howard, and harden lin has a a lot of talent to make a point guard look good. Its his job to lose if morey cant move his contract.
if ANY current Knick had pulled that crap, those here would be screaming for him to be off the team. Hypocrites.
Lin actually was on the team at the time and most people here still wanted him back.
Bonn1997 wrote:DurzoBlint wrote:Nalod wrote:Guy is speaking to youth and saying he put too much pressure on himself.. Better than not caring.
Rockets better than knicks now?
but, most of the guys bitching and moaning about the state of the Knicks are saying that being good isn't enough, that you all want a chip but, then to support your argument you say the Rocketts are better now? They didn't win it last season, do I see them winning this upcoming season. Until Linn does more than make a cameo appearance in the post season, until his play makes a difference WHEN IT MATTERS, then he and his supporters better get used to threads like this.
Houston got potentially an 8 to 10 year window to build a championship team when they acquired a 23 year old franchise player with only 3 years of 6th man minutes and wear and tear.
Is Harden only 23? When talking franchise players, the only people on that team that fit the bill are Harden and Howard. The rest are role players, some of whom can't even consistently play their roles
Bonn1997 wrote:DurzoBlint wrote:Nalod wrote:Guy is speaking to youth and saying he put too much pressure on himself.. Better than not caring.
Rockets better than knicks now?
but, most of the guys bitching and moaning about the state of the Knicks are saying that being good isn't enough, that you all want a chip but, then to support your argument you say the Rocketts are better now? They didn't win it last season, do I see them winning this upcoming season. Until Linn does more than make a cameo appearance in the post season, until his play makes a difference WHEN IT MATTERS, then he and his supporters better get used to threads like this.
Houston got potentially an 8 to 10 year window to build a championship team when they acquired a 23 year old franchise player with only 3 years of 6th man minutes and wear and tear.
It's going to depend on if Dwight's back holds out to wear and tear. Rockets are on the hook to Dwight and Harden for $40 mil through 2016-2017.
Bonn1997 wrote:DurzoBlint wrote:CrushAlot wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
i was fired up during linsanity and i dont consider myself a hater. But lin could have played in the heat series and chose to not play on the usa select team because of his upcoming free agency. A lot of guys have come back a lot faster from that surgery. Not sure why his rehab is still a topic. Also, i would love to know if he is recovered from his chest injury. I think the injury in the nba is unique to jeremy. With parsons,howard, and harden lin has a a lot of talent to make a point guard look good. Its his job to lose if morey cant move his contract.
if ANY current Knick had pulled that crap, those here would be screaming for him to be off the team. Hypocrites.
Lin actually was on the team at the time and most people here still wanted him back.
And many of us were calling him out for it while his cheerleaders brought his humble pie act and will forgive him for just about anything.
I doubt it was a majority defending him and many of those who did come across as bunch of potential stalkers.
dk7th wrote:i have seen this kid beverley in person: he is straight up greased lightning. world class quickness, very impressive to witness. obviously you hope he is coachable vis a vis decision-making and genuine PG ball handling in which case he will surpass many point guards beyond lin and felton. but there's the rub: basketball is a game of skill and mind, especially in the backcourt. two years in college and then a european stint and he remains a question mark. if the knicks were interested in patient development then beverley would be a prime candidate.
And if we need to take out an opposing team's star PG he's the man. I wish we had signed someone like him or Collison to be our 2nd PG instead of Prigs.
He wasn't ready to go for the Heat series. I'm not sure what good it would have done. Unless you think he was faking injury? The burden of proof would be on you in that case. I could care less about the USA Select.
DurzoBlint wrote:CrushAlot wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
i was fired up during linsanity and i dont consider myself a hater. But lin could have played in the heat series and chose to not play on the usa select team because of his upcoming free agency. A lot of guys have come back a lot faster from that surgery. Not sure why his rehab is still a topic. Also, i would love to know if he is recovered from his chest injury. I think the injury in the nba is unique to jeremy. With parsons,howard, and harden lin has a a lot of talent to make a point guard look good. Its his job to lose if morey cant move his contract.
if ANY current Knick had pulled that crap, those here would be screaming for him to be off the team. Hypocrites.
NYKBocker wrote:So the kid is honest about his shortcomings last year and that is what you got from it? Plus..he was actually not that bad. He had an average season for a starting PG.
typical reaction from some knicks fans tho... Lin is a good kid and he is taking honest inventory of himself... I am sure he will be fine in Houston... you know the drill, once you leave the knicks, you suck.... go figure...smh
nykshaknbake wrote:He wasn't ready to go for the Heat series. I'm not sure what good it would have done. Unless you think he was faking injury? The burden of proof would be on you in that case. I could care less about the USA Select.
DurzoBlint wrote:CrushAlot wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Lin was recovering from knee surgery. Rockets traded for harden. Lin had better year than Felton. Lin is signed through 2015. felton through 2016. Lin is 25.
i was fired up during linsanity and i dont consider myself a hater. But lin could have played in the heat series and chose to not play on the usa select team because of his upcoming free agency. A lot of guys have come back a lot faster from that surgery. Not sure why his rehab is still a topic. Also, i would love to know if he is recovered from his chest injury. I think the injury in the nba is unique to jeremy. With parsons,howard, and harden lin has a a lot of talent to make a point guard look good. Its his job to lose if morey cant move his contract.
if ANY current Knick had pulled that crap, those here would be screaming for him to be off the team. Hypocrites.
not sure about the heat series. It seems others came back sooner. He also sat out from participating on the usat seletc team because he didnt w ant to jeopardize his free agemc y. When you arent
playing because you are thinking about your next contract it is generally looked at in a negative light. a
SupremeCommander wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:just sayin' but in his bad season, his stats matched Felton's. Just sayin'.
The Knicks pay $8.5 million to Felton over the next two years
The Rockets will pay $20 million the next two for Lin
context matters
yet the knicks are still searching for pg's....
gunsnewing wrote:Give me Jeremy Lin over Felton. LIN's contract does not effect 2015. Felton's doesOh and Lin is 25. Felton is 30. Lin sees the floor like a PG should
The End.
As much as I like asik, he had a case of the fumble fingers, wait till lin is throwing passes to Dwight who not only will catch the passes but finish... should be interesting... Houston will be an interesting team to watch..
Nalod wrote:Guy is speaking to youth and saying he put too much pressure on himself.. Better than not caring.
Rockets better than knicks now?
if the knicks had Harden, Dwight, Lin, and Parsons, Jesus christ would not be able to convince knick fans they were not the best team on the planet.....
knickstorrents wrote:I wonder are the same people who are salary conscious over Lin the same people who like Melo? Because Melo is one of the worst deals in basketball, bar none.
Lin goes to a kid's camp admitting his faults in a very adult manner, and people are ragging on him? Are you guys for real?
not only that, but look at bargnani deal? and as much of a fan I am of amare, look at his deal. we gave him guranteed money, no insurance to the tune of 100 mil...
