Knicks · What does these 4 players have in common/ and what separates them. (page 2)
Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knicks need to build a Iverson Sixer like team around Melo and let him score 38PPG. Just get guys who defend, rebound and move the ball to Melo. Not Bargnani and Amarehe would have to take 50 shots per game to get 38 points..
the thing with guys like king is that he shot over 50% didn't need a ton of shots..
good luck with that....
It worked for iverson who was far less efficient. Not saying its the answer, but you can build a successful team that way.
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Iverson career 42.5% fg. Melo 45.6%. Melo also better career 3pt % and free throw %. Original point was if a successful team can be put around iverson's high volume scoring it can be done with Melo.
iverson was a more dynamic player.. he played a lot in the lane for a little guy.. his ability to penetrate opened up a lot of opportunities for other players.. he also dished out close to 7 dimes a game, even though he put up a ton of shots.. Not a fan of the amount of shots he took, but I liked how he played. exciting to watch, electric, hard to guard, an opportunist on defense, almost getting 3 steals a game...
different player, different dynamic, you can't do with carmelo what you did with iverson. carmelo too limited..
I don't care what the original point was. I don't agree with it, iverson was more than just a high volume shooter.... His style of play is what allowed the sixers to build a team around him that worked somewhat....
and here is the big difference. Iverson actually played better in the playoffs than regular season... Look at his shooting % in postseason..
tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knicks need to build a Iverson Sixer like team around Melo and let him score 38PPG. Just get guys who defend, rebound and move the ball to Melo. Not Bargnani and Amarehe would have to take 50 shots per game to get 38 points..
the thing with guys like king is that he shot over 50% didn't need a ton of shots..
good luck with that....
It worked for iverson who was far less efficient. Not saying its the answer, but you can build a successful team that way.
CARMELO NOT IVERSON
Iverson career 42.5% fg. Melo 45.6%. Melo also better career 3pt % and free throw %. Original point was if a successful team can be put around iverson's high volume scoring it can be done with Melo.
iverson was a more dynamic player.. he played a lot in the lane for a little guy.. his ability to penetrate opened up a lot of opportunities for other players.. he also dished out close to 7 dimes a game, even though he put up a ton of shots.. Not a fan of the amount of shots he took, but I liked how he played. exciting to watch, electric, hard to guard, an opportunist on defense, almost getting 3 steals a game...
different player, different dynamic, you can't do with carmelo what you did with iverson. carmelo too limited..
I don't care what the original point was. I don't agree with it, iverson was more than just a high volume shooter.... His style of play is what allowed the sixers to build a team around him that worked somewhat....
and here is the big difference. Iverson actually played better in the playoffs than regular season... Look at his shooting % in postseason..
Iverson shot worse in playoffs, not sure what you are talking about. He barely shot 40%. Melo has shot 42%. Other than that I agree different player, different dynamic. But same concept.
Neither of them have won a championship!
Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knicks need to build a Iverson Sixer like team around Melo and let him score 38PPG. Just get guys who defend, rebound and move the ball to Melo. Not Bargnani and Amarehe would have to take 50 shots per game to get 38 points..
the thing with guys like king is that he shot over 50% didn't need a ton of shots..
good luck with that....
It worked for iverson who was far less efficient. Not saying its the answer, but you can build a successful team that way.
CARMELO NOT IVERSON
Iverson career 42.5% fg. Melo 45.6%. Melo also better career 3pt % and free throw %. Original point was if a successful team can be put around iverson's high volume scoring it can be done with Melo.
iverson was a more dynamic player.. he played a lot in the lane for a little guy.. his ability to penetrate opened up a lot of opportunities for other players.. he also dished out close to 7 dimes a game, even though he put up a ton of shots.. Not a fan of the amount of shots he took, but I liked how he played. exciting to watch, electric, hard to guard, an opportunist on defense, almost getting 3 steals a game...
different player, different dynamic, you can't do with carmelo what you did with iverson. carmelo too limited..
I don't care what the original point was. I don't agree with it, iverson was more than just a high volume shooter.... His style of play is what allowed the sixers to build a team around him that worked somewhat....
and here is the big difference. Iverson actually played better in the playoffs than regular season... Look at his shooting % in postseason..
Iverson shot worse in playoffs, not sure what you are talking about. He barely shot 40%. Melo has shot 42%. Other than that I agree different player, different dynamic. But same concept.
He rarely has any objective point when discussing Melo, although there have been a few seconds last season where he said something positive.
It's a truly endearing and interesting character trait. Something like a posting 'tic'.
tkf wrote:Iverson did very little. His success as a result of Larry Brown's great coaching those years. He took more shots than the next two guys. He never won anything. He went to one finals whoop de do. He's a chucker. He got steals because he constantly gambled and that hurt his team. He's just a quick guard who was allowed to shoot it 30 times a game. Minimal impact.Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knicks need to build a Iverson Sixer like team around Melo and let him score 38PPG. Just get guys who defend, rebound and move the ball to Melo. Not Bargnani and Amarehe would have to take 50 shots per game to get 38 points..
the thing with guys like king is that he shot over 50% didn't need a ton of shots..
good luck with that....
It worked for iverson who was far less efficient. Not saying its the answer, but you can build a successful team that way.
CARMELO NOT IVERSON
Iverson career 42.5% fg. Melo 45.6%. Melo also better career 3pt % and free throw %. Original point was if a successful team can be put around iverson's high volume scoring it can be done with Melo.
iverson was a more dynamic player.. he played a lot in the lane for a little guy.. his ability to penetrate opened up a lot of opportunities for other players.. he also dished out close to 7 dimes a game, even though he put up a ton of shots.. Not a fan of the amount of shots he took, but I liked how he played. exciting to watch, electric, hard to guard, an opportunist on defense, almost getting 3 steals a game...
different player, different dynamic, you can't do with carmelo what you did with iverson. carmelo too limited..
I don't care what the original point was. I don't agree with it, iverson was more than just a high volume shooter.... His style of play is what allowed the sixers to build a team around him that worked somewhat....
and here is the big difference. Iverson actually played better in the playoffs than regular season... Look at his shooting % in postseason..
Hey.. that was easy
fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:Iverson did very little. His success as a result of Larry Brown's great coaching those years. He took more shots than the next two guys. He never won anything. He went to one finals whoop de do. He's a chucker. He got steals because he constantly gambled and that hurt his team. He's just a quick guard who was allowed to shoot it 30 times a game. Minimal impact.Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knicks need to build a Iverson Sixer like team around Melo and let him score 38PPG. Just get guys who defend, rebound and move the ball to Melo. Not Bargnani and Amarehe would have to take 50 shots per game to get 38 points..
the thing with guys like king is that he shot over 50% didn't need a ton of shots..
good luck with that....
It worked for iverson who was far less efficient. Not saying its the answer, but you can build a successful team that way.
CARMELO NOT IVERSON
Iverson career 42.5% fg. Melo 45.6%. Melo also better career 3pt % and free throw %. Original point was if a successful team can be put around iverson's high volume scoring it can be done with Melo.
iverson was a more dynamic player.. he played a lot in the lane for a little guy.. his ability to penetrate opened up a lot of opportunities for other players.. he also dished out close to 7 dimes a game, even though he put up a ton of shots.. Not a fan of the amount of shots he took, but I liked how he played. exciting to watch, electric, hard to guard, an opportunist on defense, almost getting 3 steals a game...
different player, different dynamic, you can't do with carmelo what you did with iverson. carmelo too limited..
I don't care what the original point was. I don't agree with it, iverson was more than just a high volume shooter.... His style of play is what allowed the sixers to build a team around him that worked somewhat....
and here is the big difference. Iverson actually played better in the playoffs than regular season... Look at his shooting % in postseason..
Hey.. that was easy
WHAT you say may be correct... still doesn't change that iverson was a more dynamic player, a better player than carmelo and you can't do with carmelo what you did with iverson...
yea, that was easy. glad we agree..
Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Knicks need to build a Iverson Sixer like team around Melo and let him score 38PPG. Just get guys who defend, rebound and move the ball to Melo. Not Bargnani and Amarehe would have to take 50 shots per game to get 38 points..
the thing with guys like king is that he shot over 50% didn't need a ton of shots..
good luck with that....
It worked for iverson who was far less efficient. Not saying its the answer, but you can build a successful team that way.
CARMELO NOT IVERSON
Iverson career 42.5% fg. Melo 45.6%. Melo also better career 3pt % and free throw %. Original point was if a successful team can be put around iverson's high volume scoring it can be done with Melo.
iverson was a more dynamic player.. he played a lot in the lane for a little guy.. his ability to penetrate opened up a lot of opportunities for other players.. he also dished out close to 7 dimes a game, even though he put up a ton of shots.. Not a fan of the amount of shots he took, but I liked how he played. exciting to watch, electric, hard to guard, an opportunist on defense, almost getting 3 steals a game...
different player, different dynamic, you can't do with carmelo what you did with iverson. carmelo too limited..
I don't care what the original point was. I don't agree with it, iverson was more than just a high volume shooter.... His style of play is what allowed the sixers to build a team around him that worked somewhat....
and here is the big difference. Iverson actually played better in the playoffs than regular season... Look at his shooting % in postseason..
Iverson shot worse in playoffs, not sure what you are talking about. He barely shot 40%. Melo has shot 42%. Other than that I agree different player, different dynamic. But same concept.
accidentally looked at his per stats.. on FG%, my bad.. but statistically. he scoring, assists, more often performed better in the playoffs....
His one finals appearance that year is a testament to that...