Knicks · Game Thread: Knicks go for 2 Lins in a row (page 18)

nycisgreat @ 11/14/2013 11:09 PM
meloanyk wrote:Knicks need a larger pg who can defend

Felton is done! He is fat, out of shape and can't defend any pg in this league. The guy is a human turnstile! People drive by him at will.

Woodson sucks! This guy seems like he never do any game planning.

nixluva @ 11/14/2013 11:09 PM
This team isn't going anywhere if all we have at PG is Felton and Prigs!!!!
SJUknicksfan @ 11/14/2013 11:09 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Tough loss but i still see teh same problems. No interiro defense, our point guards are awful, and also we seem to miss a lot of free throws. Both teh bulls game and tonights game could ahve eben won if we hit more FT's

I don't think any of those problems, besides FT's, can be improved without a trade, sadly.

JamesKPolk @ 11/14/2013 11:09 PM
nixluva wrote:This team isn't going anywhere if all we have at PG is Felton and Prigs!!!!

We have Udrih too.

markvmc @ 11/14/2013 11:10 PM
Bad call, but if you put yourself in that position with dumb plays all night, hoping for a foul call on a 3 pointer is pretty low percentage.
Dagger @ 11/14/2013 11:10 PM
We should try to see if we can package Felton and shumpert for a better pg.

Not necessarily an all-star but maybe for Kamba walker or a similar talent

nixluva @ 11/14/2013 11:11 PM
JamesKPolk wrote:
nixluva wrote:This team isn't going anywhere if all we have at PG is Felton and Prigs!!!!

We have Udrih too.


UGH! SO disappointed with Beno. He's been playing so selfishly and not providing any vet leadership.

FREE MURRY!!!

StarksEwing1 @ 11/14/2013 11:11 PM
nixluva wrote:This team isn't going anywhere if all we have at PG is Felton and Prigs!!!!
Those type of point gaurds cost money or come in the draft and we have neither. this is why getting rid of 1st round picks all teh time isnt good
Swishfm3 @ 11/14/2013 11:11 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I blame Melo's foul on Howard for the loss. Anyway, its good to see Bargs have back to back good games and for different reasons.

you fault That one play for the Knicks loss? amazing

CrushAlot @ 11/14/2013 11:11 PM
nycisgreat wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Knicks need a larger pg who can defend

Felton is done! He is fat, out of shape and can't defend any pg in this league. The guy is a human turnstile! People drive by him at will.

Woodson sucks! This guy seems like he never do any game planning.

I think Felton is hurt.
yellowboy90 @ 11/14/2013 11:12 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It's clear now that the real issue with the Knicks is the PG spot. They've got to figure out something to improve the PG position cuz it's killing us this year.
Not having tyson chandler is the biggest issue

At times but Shump and Felton D is hurting the knicks. Then Prigs was getting abused by Lin tonight. The knicks D also have problems with help D but the first uy is getting beat so quickly.

GustavBahler @ 11/14/2013 11:12 PM
nycisgreat wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Knicks need a larger pg who can defend

Felton is done! He is fat, out of shape and can't defend any pg in this league. The guy is a human turnstile! People drive by him at will.

Woodson sucks! This guy seems like he never do any game planning.

He's not fat, Felton showed up in great shape. Its pushing 30 more than anything else IMO. Those years playing with that extra weight might have taken its toll on his body.

JamesKPolk @ 11/14/2013 11:12 PM
Truth is we can't win with this roster and coach.

PG is a problem but so are other positions. JR Smith has a lifetime deal on the team and has been given free reign to do whatever he wants. He's not a good player. Good franchises don't do what the Knicks do.

yellowboy90 @ 11/14/2013 11:13 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I blame Melo's foul on Howard for the loss. Anyway, its good to see Bargs have back to back good games and for different reasons.

you fault That one play for the Knicks loss? amazing

No I blame all the Iso's for melo too.

OldFan @ 11/14/2013 11:13 PM
This team needs some smarts. They make a lot of dumb plays. A PG would go along way - but I think we got what we got.
StarksEwing1 @ 11/14/2013 11:13 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I blame Melo's foul on Howard for the loss. Anyway, its good to see Bargs have back to back good games and for different reasons.

you fault That one play for the Knicks loss? amazing

Now melo is the new whipping boy i guess lol. Look i have criticized melo is the past but he is the least of our problems. Tyson chandler is our second best player and best defender so not having him hurts
nixluva @ 11/14/2013 11:14 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
nycisgreat wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Knicks need a larger pg who can defend

Felton is done! He is fat, out of shape and can't defend any pg in this league. The guy is a human turnstile! People drive by him at will.

Woodson sucks! This guy seems like he never do any game planning.

I think Felton is hurt.

I don't know about that. I haven't seen him look like he is favoring anything or doesn't have his usual straight line speed. I just think he's not a good PG. He's a scorer and at most can run some PnR but that's it. No court vision and doesn't set up the team to run good offense. He's not really a break down PG either so... He's only good when he's scoring and forget about his D.

StarksEwing1 @ 11/14/2013 11:15 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It's clear now that the real issue with the Knicks is the PG spot. They've got to figure out something to improve the PG position cuz it's killing us this year.
Not having tyson chandler is the biggest issue

At times but Shump and Felton D is hurting the knicks. Then Prigs was getting abused by Lin tonight. The knicks D also have problems with help D but the first uy is getting beat so quickly.

I agree our pg's get beat evvery possession but at least tyson helps out on defense. I know bargnani probably had the best defensive game of his career but i dont expect it to happen much.
tkf @ 11/14/2013 11:15 PM
markvmc wrote:Those last fouls from Felton and Anthony tell you everything you need to know about this team as currently constituted.

lol yep

Killa4luv @ 11/14/2013 11:16 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:It's clear now that the real issue with the Knicks is the PG spot. They've got to figure out something to improve the PG position cuz it's killing us this year.
Not having tyson chandler is the biggest issue
yellowboy90 @ 11/14/2013 11:16 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
nycisgreat wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Knicks need a larger pg who can defend

Felton is done! He is fat, out of shape and can't defend any pg in this league. The guy is a human turnstile! People drive by him at will.

Woodson sucks! This guy seems like he never do any game planning.

I think Felton is hurt.

He has hamstring issues but its his decision making. I remember one play when he attack the rim quickly against Howard, which he blk, but Bargs was wide open at the top like he had been earlier. He also needed to recognize that Houston adjusted their PnR defense and switched the play which left Lin on Bargs. Stop your drive and post Bargs up but instead he posted up Melo.

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