Knicks · We miss Novak (page 1)

His ability to spot up and stretch the floor whether he made or missed the shot. You had to respect him. Who scares you from the perimeter on this team other than Melo the guy who benefits most from the space? THJ? nah

Don't forget Copeland.

And Lin.

And Camby.

And Qrich

Vmart wrote:Don't forget Copeland.

Him too to an extent

And Crawford

And Jerome James

It may be hard to imagine how much the Knicks could miss a group of players who didn’t convert a field goal between them in the Eastern semifinal loss, but Kurt Thomas, Marcus Camby, Rasheed Wallace and, most of all, Kidd, have left a gaping hole in the locker room. - Steve Popper

I miss Shump.

I miss Lonnie Shelton

Novak is posting career lows in every category. Bargs is shooting better from 3 this season.

I miss Mo Taylor

Novak misses The Garden's shooting background

I miss Rory Sparrow

Novak needs a PG that is able to penetrate and have the ability to finish, and have good facilitating ability both efficiently/effectively
On top of that he needs good ball movement/player movement/ picks on and the ball, with unselfish basketball, cut effectively, and other players to spread the floor effectively
Like in most systems, it would help to have more talent with the ability to penetrate and handle the ball, with 2-3 post options, and good long/athletic defensive players that have the ability to rotate well to cover his lack of DEF

we don't have any of these things and that is why we are struggling, Melo is not Lebron, he does not have the ability to facilitate, penetrate off the dribble, defend, or even post up like him, but Woodson continues to have him initiate our OFFENSE when that just isn't his skill set

On building a team having much talent to run a philosophy/system is needed

3 players that have the ability to penetrate/finish/facilitate (unless u have a great PG like CP3)
2-3 players that could post up 1v1 effectively
2 shot blockers at PF/C and 1-2 good 1v1 DEFENDERS at the G/F position, like a young Marion or Battum/Paul George, a PG that could push the tempo and stay in front of opponents PG's and get through screens
4 to even 5 shooters that can hit a wide open 3pter

doing all this with the new CBA is really though, that is why having young players to develop on rookie contracts are needed, and even good cheap signings with MLE, other exemptions, and vet min players (especially some that you can reward with early bird rights to)

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the more weapons you have, the harder it is for opponents DEF to figure out a way to stop the OFFENSE and have a way to recover

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Same for DEF, the more lock down defenders you have, you don't have to worry about helping/rotating, and help can come in all directions, especially when you have 2 shot blockers depending on the match ups of opponents

for these reasons

Kevin Love
Aldridge
Hibbert

are probably one of the better UFA's in 2015 to target

RonRon wrote:Novak needs a PG that is able to penetrate and have the ability to finish, and have good facilitating ability both efficiently/effectively
On top of that he needs good ball movement/player movement/ picks on and the ball, with unselfish basketball, cut effectively, and other players to spread the floor effectively
Like in most systems, it would help to have more talent with the ability to penetrate and handle the ball, with 2-3 post options, and good long/athletic defensive players that have the ability to rotate well to cover his lack of DEF

we don't have any of these things and that is why we are struggling, Melo is not Lebron, he does not have the ability to facilitate, penetrate off the dribble, defend, or even post up like him, but Woodson continues to have him initiate our OFFENSE when that just isn't his skill set

On building a team having

3 players that have the ability to penetrate/finish/facilitate (unless u have a great PG like CP3)
2-3 players that could post up 1v1 effectively
2 shot blockers at PF/C and 1-2 good 1v1 DEFENDERS at the G/F position, like a young Marion or Battum/Paul George, a PG that could push the tempo and stay in front of opponents PG's and get through screens
4 to even 5 shooters that can hit a wide open 3pter

the more weapons you have, the harder it is for opponents DEF to figure out a way to stop the OFFENSE and have a way to recover
Same for DEF, the more lock down defenders you have, you could not worry about helping and help can come in all directions

I agree with you that the PG position is killing this season for the Knicks. Asides from that our main player is basically a iso scorer very rarely moves without the ball. Melo could easily average more points and be more efficient if he learned to move without the ball. Instead of taking a pounding in the post. He is a good scorer but lacks basketball know how and basic instincts. That is why he hated playing under D'Antoni because the ball finds the player with energy and Melo never showed the energy unless he got the ball in the post.

And Lee Nailon

MSG3 wrote:And Lee Nailon

Lee "Press on" Nailon

and James Donaldson

Lin might not have been good enough to do it himself to initiate an offense vs play off caliber teams

but

Melo surely is not a good initiater/facilitater on offense, we are playing so slow vs half court DEF because of our lack of speed/penetration
However, Melo doesn't agree with this and believes he is not much different in terms of talent when compared to Lebron, there are very few players that he would not demand the ball over in the league, Lin was one of them....

RonRon wrote:Novak needs a PG that is able to penetrate and have the ability to finish, and have good facilitating ability both efficiently/effectively
On top of that he needs good ball movement/player movement/ picks on and the ball, with unselfish basketball, cut effectively, and other players to spread the floor effectively
Like in most systems, it would help to have more talent with the ability to penetrate and handle the ball, with 2-3 post options, and good long/athletic defensive players that have the ability to rotate well to cover his lack of DE

Thats why I don't miss him, too needy . All the stars have to align for him to be effective. Even then he isn't what I would call a clutch shooter. Certainly not someone who could drain a 3 with someone in his face.

I defended him early on last season when he wasn't getting any touches, but after a while I just couldn't do it anymore because anything he gave us had no real impact on the outcome of the game. Glad Bargs is a Knick. Hope it stays that way.