Knicks · Open letter to amare: you're washed up and no one has the heart to break it to you (page 1)

IronWillGiroud @ 11/28/2013 12:31 AM
You're out of your mind bro!

You're a bum, a has been, you gotta retire to save face otherwise we will all laugh at you harder than we are now.

No one wants to break it to you? Well now it has been broken.

You've overstated your welcome and you've hurt us wayyyyy more than you've ever helped us.

Never forget the fire extinguisher, too.

Please gtfo and If we lose to clips tonight you owe me some kunas my man.

IronWillGiroud @ 11/28/2013 12:34 AM
What a worthless bum
IronWillGiroud @ 11/28/2013 12:44 AM
YOU DON'T BELONG IN THE NBA!!!!!!!!
CrushAlot @ 11/28/2013 1:03 AM
Stat has a player option to opt out after this season. Could the Knicks pay/buy him out to opt out? They could pay him more then his salary and still save on the tax penalty. It needs to be done.
CrushAlot @ 11/28/2013 1:58 AM
-29 the game after you call out your teammates? Can't believe you only had 2 turnovers it seemed like 10. Total negative on the court.
Clean @ 11/28/2013 2:43 AM
I did not watch the game but I knew Amare was a bum. People got distracted by a decent game. It was not a good game because he gave up at least the amount of points he scored in bad D. No matter how much time he spends on the court to "get his rhythm", Amare will always be a net negative.
Vmart @ 11/28/2013 10:01 AM
CrushAlot wrote:-29 the game after you call out your teammates? Can't believe you only had 2 turnovers it seemed like 10. Total negative on the court.

The worst part is he didn't stick to his guns with his comment.

ShellTopAdidas @ 11/28/2013 11:07 AM
Amare was done here once MDA left. He looks lost out there.
CrushAlot @ 11/28/2013 11:09 AM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:Amare was done here once MDA left. He looks lost out there.
I think he was done once he hurt his back dunking in the pregame against the Heat. He hasn't been healthy since. His issues are health related and as he has said, he never learned how to play d.
ShellTopAdidas @ 11/28/2013 11:19 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:Amare was done here once MDA left. He looks lost out there.
I think he was done once he hurt his back dunking in the pregame against the Heat. He hasn't been healthy since. His issues are health related and as he has said, he never learned how to play d.

A shame too. God he was fun to watch when he first got here! I loved that pre-trade team! Something special was being built here, and I couldn't wait to see the end results! So much for that!
RonRon @ 11/28/2013 12:55 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Stat has a player option to opt out after this season. Could the Knicks pay/buy him out to opt out? They could pay him more then his salary and still save on the tax penalty. It needs to be done.

not according to hoopshype.com

I have read a couple posters that have said this recently and also in the past, maybe it is something that hoopshype has wrong, sometimes they do but in general they are very good on contracts...

Is this something that has been mislead and passed around from the board or is it true?
Can anyone confirm?
Thanks

Knixkik @ 11/28/2013 1:01 PM
Just out of curiosity does anyone know the Knicks record with amare active and also while out since melo arrived?
RonRon @ 11/28/2013 1:05 PM
Also, on the NBA, on the amnesty and cutting players contracts
So they can get paid on top of it with an additional contract and prove themselves that they are worth more than players that DIDN'T get cut/amenstied
Only in the NBA.....

Btw, can anyone give me 23m, because I am inefficient in my job?

dk7th @ 11/28/2013 1:57 PM
it would have been nice if he had been allowed to play under a system coach and alongside a system player, injuries notwithstanding. he makes a very convenient scapegoat.
ShellTopAdidas @ 11/28/2013 2:01 PM
dk7th wrote:it would have been nice if he had been allowed to play under a system coach and alongside a system player, injuries notwithstanding. he makes a very convenient scapegoat.

Amen Brotha, Amen!!!

Dagger @ 11/28/2013 2:02 PM
dk7th wrote:it would have been nice if he had been allowed to play under a system coach and alongside a system player, injuries notwithstanding. he makes a very convenient scapegoat.

You can't say "injuries nonwithstanding", injuries define anare's career. Having a "system coach" and "system players" wouldn't keep him from totally breaking down.

RonRon @ 11/28/2013 2:04 PM
2 years ago - Knicks were 22W - 25L with Stoudemire, 14W - 5L without Stoudemire
Last season - Knicks were 16W - 13L with Stoudemire, 38W - 15L without Stoudemire
This season - Knicks - 80 points when Stoudemire is playing
Clean @ 11/28/2013 2:10 PM
dk7th wrote:it would have been nice if he had been allowed to play under a system coach and alongside a system player, injuries notwithstanding. he makes a very convenient scapegoat.

have you not seen his defense? I personally think he is the absolute worse defender there has ever been in the NBA. I have never seen a person be confused so many times by a simple pass or simple pick. That does not even include the Amare special defensive play. The point at the player driving to the hoop and yell pick him up. The only problem is that is the guy Amare should be guarding.

I heard someone say something about Amare that I had to think about but I came to the conclusion that it was accurate. The person said that Amare has always been a terrible basketball player. The thing is that he had exceptional athletic ability that covered a great deal of his lack luster overall game. For example, he blows a defensive assignment he would just run down the player and end up with a highlight block. With that advantage now gone we are left with the low basketball IQ player.

dk7th @ 11/28/2013 2:12 PM
Dagger wrote:
dk7th wrote:it would have been nice if he had been allowed to play under a system coach and alongside a system player, injuries notwithstanding. he makes a very convenient scapegoat.

You can't say "injuries nonwithstanding", injuries define anare's career. Having a "system coach" and "system players" wouldn't keep him from totally breaking down.

yes you do have a point he has been injury prone and the knicks rolled the dice with him, but then again if you take away the one thing that the player has proven to be elite at and force him to do other things or try to do the same things with an inferior version of what he made his name with, it only promotes physical breakdown. that is, he was forced to play with an inferior point guard and then was marginalized after that.

dk7th @ 11/28/2013 2:19 PM
Clean wrote:
dk7th wrote:it would have been nice if he had been allowed to play under a system coach and alongside a system player, injuries notwithstanding. he makes a very convenient scapegoat.

have you not seen his defense? I personally think he is the absolute worse defender there has ever been in the NBA. I have never seen a person be confused so many times by a simple pass or simple pick. That does not even include the Amare special defensive play. The point at the player driving to the hoop and yell pick him up. The only problem is that is the guy Amare should be guarding.

I heard someone say something about Amare that I had to think about but I came to the conclusion that it was accurate. The person said that Amare has always been a terrible basketball player. The thing is that he had exceptional athletic ability that covered a great deal of his lack luster overall game. For example, he blows a defensive assignment he would just run down the player and end up with a highlight block. With that advantage now gone we are left with the low basketball IQ player.

yes he was never taught defense. that is clear. when you make the leap from high school there's a higher probability of not coming to the nba with sound fundamentals. and lets face it when you have nash hitting you with pocket passes in stride and rhythm you can get away with an awful lot, especially as the decision-making is out of your hands. he was a GREAT finisher.

i knew this when he came to new york and kept insisting that he pick up his assists. he never really found teammates that were open when he was doubled and tripled. that is the kiss of death for a team, as we have seen similarly with melo. but then lets remember he also had a severe eye injury and that wearing those goggles surely impairs what limited peripheral vision he might have had to see an orange and blue jersey.

one wonders how garnett got his defensive and passing instincts.

CrushAlot @ 11/28/2013 2:29 PM
dk7th wrote:
Clean wrote:
dk7th wrote:it would have been nice if he had been allowed to play under a system coach and alongside a system player, injuries notwithstanding. he makes a very convenient scapegoat.

have you not seen his defense? I personally think he is the absolute worse defender there has ever been in the NBA. I have never seen a person be confused so many times by a simple pass or simple pick. That does not even include the Amare special defensive play. The point at the player driving to the hoop and yell pick him up. The only problem is that is the guy Amare should be guarding.

I heard someone say something about Amare that I had to think about but I came to the conclusion that it was accurate. The person said that Amare has always been a terrible basketball player. The thing is that he had exceptional athletic ability that covered a great deal of his lack luster overall game. For example, he blows a defensive assignment he would just run down the player and end up with a highlight block. With that advantage now gone we are left with the low basketball IQ player.

yes he was never taught defense. that is clear. when you make the leap from high school there's a higher probability of not coming to the nba with sound fundamentals. and lets face it when you have nash hitting you with pocket passes in stride and rhythm you can get away with an awful lot, especially as the decision-making is out of your hands. he was a GREAT finisher.

i knew this when he came to new york and kept insisting that he pick up his assists. he never really found teammates that were open when he was doubled and tripled. that is the kiss of death for a team, as we have seen similarly with melo. but then lets remember he also had a severe eye injury and that wearing those goggles surely impairs what limited peripheral vision he might have had to see an orange and blue jersey.

one wonders how garnett got his defensive and passing instincts.

Dugel says that Stoudemire has 20/20 vision with contact lenses and that there are no restrictions on his activity.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ...
Interesting that he averaged the most assists in his career his first year in NY.
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