BRIGGS wrote:My guess is that 75%++ Knick fans want a divorce from CA. We dont want to pay him 30mm and he dominates our team our culture and there is no way around it as we dont have the assets to surround him with the correct personnel--he took care of that himself.Now its in the media he wants to leave--on all of the talk shows---just give it a little bit and he will be booed out of MSG.
I want a divorce from CA and CAA.
Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
Morey!!!! Take Melo please!!!! Give us your yoots!
I'm cognizant that it's not fair to blame Melo for all our problems. Amar'e is getting paid the same amount Melo is for the next two years. By far, that's the biggest issue, but there is nothing we can do there except hope STAT (Sitting Tall and Talented) finds the Fountain of Youth in the next two years. Our problems are systemic. I don't like the idea of giving Melo the keys and calling the shots on personnel if he get re-signed. He's talking about missing Kidd's leadership this year instead of stepping up into that gap. What is he waiting for? He's a vet, his game has respect, he's the top dog on the team. But he was talking about being wooed as a FA when the season started, instead of rallying his troops, however ragtag they are.
So I hope some reporter asks him about this tomorrow and he just shuts it down as nonsense. If he doesn't, it's on this front office I have absolutely no faith in to deal with it.
2018, y'all.
EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.
EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
Maybe it's like Chapelle said about being 20% black and 80% comedian after watching the Michael Richards meltdown. "Don't let 'em break you, Kramer!"
SAS is 10% Knicks fan, 90% NYC sports columnist. Scoops before hoops!
EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
That's what it is I think. His agenda is he knows how starved we are so he is going to shit on us for his own personal gain. He did the same thing with Lin
This is why I can't stand him
Clean wrote:EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.
That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?
gunsnewing wrote:Melo is leaving because he thinks the Knicks did not do enough to build a championship team around him. He's too dumb to realize that he is the reason why we have no assets
+1
You reap what you sow ME-low
gunsnewing wrote:EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
That's what it is I think. His agenda is he knows how starved we are so he is going to shit on us for his own personal gain. He did the same thing with Lin
This is why I can't stand him
The Knicks are rebuilding? Now that's news!
Yea, SAS already walked back some of the Lin hate he put out there. It is maddening. Did SAS side with Melo vs. Lin because Melo is in his informant clique and Lin wasn't? I will never understand how players like JR and Melo would comment on another player's money and worth after they went through a strike. So now the Knicks are a "laughingstock" and Chris Smith is a Bayhawk.
My biggest takeaway is that even if this is a direct quote from yesterday, who knows what he'll say tomorrow. And why should I put any stock in anything these guys say when the box scores and standings are in black and white for all to see.
The Knicks are back!
gunsnewing wrote:Clean wrote:EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.
That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?
The same way he knew melo wanted to join the Knicks or the Nets back during his Denver days. The same way he knew melo did not want to leave denver as a free agent(to get max money). The same way he knew Lebron, Wade and Bosh was going to the Heat months before it happened. I don't know how he figures these things out. I just know he has a good record with being correct with the stars of that draft class.
BlueSeats wrote:Nalod wrote:
If our pick turns into a top 5 lottery pick this stands to be as epic a failure as anything else Isiah did.
Fixed. Caving and overpaying for Melo has Isiah's consultancy written all over it.
Blue! great to see you my man. hope all is well.
Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Clean wrote:EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.
That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?
The same way he knew melo wanted to join the Knicks or the Nets back during his Denver days. The same way he knew melo did not want to leave denver as a free agent(to get max money). The same way he knew Lebron, Wade and Bosh was going to the Heat months before it happened. I don't know how he figures these things out. I just know he has a good record with being correct with the stars of that draft class.
He does have a pretty good track record with these things. I think guys might talk to him and if he keeps them out of it he has the scoop. He certainly has been more reliable then Broussard. The thing about this though is there certainly is a lot of emotion around the Knicks right now and Melo could have been reacting in the moment to one of the many ridiculous things that have happened this season. Here is a question though, for those who say Melo should take less to win with this franchise, doesn't it make more sense for him to take less with a franchise that isn't dysfunctional, has a plan and is a lot closer to winning?
tkf wrote:Dagger wrote:ApophisADL wrote:Lol. Then Melo will change his mind 24 hours later.
Only way I trade Melo is for Griffin.
Chandler and Memo
For
Jordan and Griffin plus trash
That's a bad trade. I don't know what yall see in Jordan he sucks, I want nothing to do with him. Griffin is also a very flawed star if you can even call him that.
NO THANK YOU
Griffin is flawed? lets see, he is a PF who actually plays like one. He patrols the paint, rebounds very, very well, can defend his position, passes pretty darn well, can score and do so efficiently...
And people, including his team mates.. Like him..
It would be a horrible trade for the clippers..
Jordan doesn't suck, again he does what the clippers need him to do.. dunk hard, block shots, rebound and intimidate...
sorry, those guys would instantly make the knicks better. while I can't say the same thing about carmelo or chandler in LA..
Problem is that they are both 50% FT shooters, so in a tight game/play match, they become liabilities especially together
And we have no PnR PG, not even one like Sessions
CrushAlot wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Clean wrote:EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.
That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?
The same way he knew melo wanted to join the Knicks or the Nets back during his Denver days. The same way he knew melo did not want to leave denver as a free agent(to get max money). The same way he knew Lebron, Wade and Bosh was going to the Heat months before it happened. I don't know how he figures these things out. I just know he has a good record with being correct with the stars of that draft class.
He does have a pretty good track record with these things. I think guys might talk to him and if he keeps them out of it he has the scoop. He certainly has been more reliable then Broussard. The thing about this though is there certainly is a lot of emotion around the Knicks right now and Melo could have been reacting in the moment to one of the many ridiculous things that have happened this season. Here is a question though, for those who say Melo should take less to win with this franchise, doesn't it make more sense for him to take less with a franchise that isn't dysfunctional, has a plan and is a lot closer to winning?
Sure, it makes sense for Melo to do what is best for Melo. I wish he saw his present situation as an opportunity instead of dreaming about summertime private jets flights to fanfare and presentations.
What is becoming clear to us -- and probably to him -- is that he did not "come home": he was brought here as part of an arena renovation. He is a famous face to feature in the MSG annual report.
If he starts making *basketball*-related decisions based on being part of a good team, God bless him. Maybe the Knicks will follow suit.
gunsnewing wrote:I don't trust Stephen and his sources. This doesn't make sense. Why would Melo leave knowing that the the Knicks could trade him to basketball Siberia
I don't either but he was correct about Lin and he seems to make sense about Iman Shumpert as well...
RonRon wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I don't trust Stephen and his sources. This doesn't make sense. Why would Melo leave knowing that the the Knicks could trade him to basketball Siberia
I don't either but he was correct about Lin and he seems to make sense about Iman Shumpert as well...
If he is willing to leave as a free agent he already is committed to getting 25 mil less and a year less on his contract. Where he is traded wouldn't matter unless he decided to resign there.
CrushAlot wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Clean wrote:EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.
That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?
The same way he knew melo wanted to join the Knicks or the Nets back during his Denver days. The same way he knew melo did not want to leave denver as a free agent(to get max money). The same way he knew Lebron, Wade and Bosh was going to the Heat months before it happened. I don't know how he figures these things out. I just know he has a good record with being correct with the stars of that draft class.
He does have a pretty good track record with these things. I think guys might talk to him and if he keeps them out of it he has the scoop. He certainly has been more reliable then Broussard. The thing about this though is there certainly is a lot of emotion around the Knicks right now and Melo could have been reacting in the moment to one of the many ridiculous things that have happened this season. Here is a question though, for those who say Melo should take less to win with this franchise, doesn't it make more sense for him to take less with a franchise that isn't dysfunctional, has a plan and is a lot closer to winning?
I can only speak for myself, but to answer your question. I don't want him to take less so we can win. I just want us to offer him less because he is not worth the max. This has nothing to do with any other factor besides what is melo actually worth. If melo was Lebron James in the same exact situation we are in now I would not mind offering him the max. Lebron is actually worth the max. Melo is a very flawed All-Star at best.
Like Gunsnewing said, the problem with melo is that he is too dumb to know a lot of things. He is too dumb to know he is not a superstar. He is too dumb to know what his faults are and to fix them. He is too dumb to know that if you really want to win you would not make your new team trade for you when they can sign you in the offseason(yes, I know we would have to cut some players like Wilson Chandler). He is too dumb to notice that ISO melo is inefficient and the hardest way to score points.
He must be getting it right from the players mouth then
RonRon wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I don't trust Stephen and his sources. This doesn't make sense. Why would Melo leave knowing that the the Knicks could trade him to basketball Siberia
I don't either but he was correct about Lin and he seems to make sense about Iman Shumpert as well...
Because he could do what he could have done last time? Get traded to Siberia as a rental, leave a lousy environment and re-calibrate, and be back in the mix unrestricted after? What is 30 million to a vet who finally realizes basketball careers -- even for the very talented -- don't last forever?
And if there is one thing Siberia is good for, is providing a distraction-free environment?
Clean wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Clean wrote:EnySpree wrote:Clean wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?
Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.
He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.
wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild
I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.
That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?
The same way he knew melo wanted to join the Knicks or the Nets back during his Denver days. The same way he knew melo did not want to leave denver as a free agent(to get max money). The same way he knew Lebron, Wade and Bosh was going to the Heat months before it happened. I don't know how he figures these things out. I just know he has a good record with being correct with the stars of that draft class.
He does have a pretty good track record with these things. I think guys might talk to him and if he keeps them out of it he has the scoop. He certainly has been more reliable then Broussard. The thing about this though is there certainly is a lot of emotion around the Knicks right now and Melo could have been reacting in the moment to one of the many ridiculous things that have happened this season. Here is a question though, for those who say Melo should take less to win with this franchise, doesn't it make more sense for him to take less with a franchise that isn't dysfunctional, has a plan and is a lot closer to winning?
I can only speak for myself, but to answer your question. I don't want him to take less so we can win. I just want us to offer him less because he is not worth the max. This has nothing to do with any other factor besides what is melo actually worth. If melo was Lebron James in the same exact situation we are in now I would not mind offering him the max. Lebron is actually worth the max. Melo is a very flawed All-Star at best.
Like Gunsnewing said, the problem with melo is that he is too dumb to know a lot of things. He is too dumb to know he is not a superstar. He is too dumb to know what his faults are and to fix them. He is too dumb to know that if you really want to win you would not make your new team trade for you when they can sign you in the offseason(yes, I know we would have to cut some players like Wilson Chandler). He is too dumb to notice that ISO melo is inefficient and the hardest way to score points.
Maybe he doesn't recognize his faults, can't fix them or won't. He did say he is who he is at this point. However I disagree about him being a superstar. In regards to his trade and what was going on at that time the owners were locking out the players at the end of the year and their plan was to reign in free agency, and the raptors and cavs had just lost their franchise players for nothing. The fact that Walsh wanted a second star and the Knicks didn't want Melo to end up in NJ were also factors but Melo wasn't staying on the Nuggets and he didn't negotiate the deal.
