Knicks · A good team does not lose to another sub 500 team by 40 at home (page 2)

jrodmc wrote:Trying to keep just a little bit of perspective to all the gleeful window jumping going on round here...

Thanks to a three-point shooting barrage that reached historic levels, the Spurs dealt the Miami Heat their most lopsided postseason loss, 113-77, the 36-point loss is the largest postseason loss in Miami Heat franchise history. — NBA History (@NBAHistory) June 12, 2013

The ten worst losses in NBA history are moments that some will remember forever, even if they would like to forget. The ten worst losses in NBA history demonstrate nights where one team completely dominated an opponent and then went on to humiliate them. These are the ten worst losses in NBA history.
1. Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Miami Heat on December 17, 1991. This is the worst loss in NBA history. Cleveland beat Miami by 68 points with a score of 148-80. Miami simply did not play defense against Cleveland, and Cleveland took full advantage of that fact, making this one of the ten worst losses in NBA history.
2. Los Angeles Lakers vs. Golden State Warriors on March 20, 1972. This entry on the ten worst losses in NBA history is almost as lopsided as when Cleveland beat Miami. The Los Angeles Lakers dominated the Golden State Warriors with a score of 162-99. Golden State certainly hopes to never lose a game by 67 points again.
3. Philadelphia Warriors vs. New York Knicks on March 2, 1962. The final score of 169-147 is not what made this a bad loss for the New York Knicks. What made this a bad loss was also what made Wilt Chamberlain a legend, as he scored 100 points against the Knicks. Allowing a single player to dominate them so thoroughly easily made this one of the ten worst losses in NBA history.
4. Syracuse Nats vs. New York Knicks on December 25th, 1962. The 1962 New York Knicks were not very good, and Christmas proved it. They suffered the worst loss in franchise history against the Syracuse Nats, losing 162-100 and earning another spot on the ten worst losses in NBA history.
5. Denver Nuggets vs. New Orleans Hornets on April 27, 2009. What made the New Orleans Hornets 121-63 loss to the Denver Nuggets so amazingly atrocious was not just the fact that the Hornets played terribly. It was that the Hornets played that terribly during a playoff game. The 58 point loss tied the mark for the worst loss in playoff history and earns a spot as one of the ten worst losses in NBA history.
6. Minneapolis Lakers vs. St. Louis Hawks on March 19, 1956. 53 years before the Nuggets destroyed the Hornets, the St. Louis Hawks set the mark for pathetic playoff losses. They went down to the Minneapolis Lakers by a score of 133-75.
7. Minnesota Timberwolves vs. Chicago Bulls on November 8, 2001. The Chicago Bulls were still in the post-Michael Jordan blues in 2001, and their young team was not playing good basketball. That was never more apparent than during a a 127-74 loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves, the worst loss in Bulls' history.
8. Detroit Pistons vs. Boston Celtics on January 31, 2003. The Boston Celtics are a proud franchise, which made their 118-66 loss to the Detroit Pistons sting that much more. It also didn't help that former Celtic Chauncey Billups led the Pistons in handing the Celtics one of the worst losses in franchise history.
9. Sacramento Kings vs. Dallas Mavericks on December 29, 1992. This was a sad day for Mavericks fans. They had to witness their franchise's worst defeat in history, a 139-81 drubbing to the Sacramento Kings. That kind of loss earns the Mavericks a place on the list of the ten worst losses in NBA history.
10. San Antonio Spurs vs. Sacramento Kings on April 22, 2006. The Sacramento Kings didn't make it through the ten worst losses in NBA history unscathed. They suffered their own large defeat at the hands of the San Antonio Spurs. They lost 122-88 during this playoff game. There was simply nothing they could do except hang their heads in shame!

"Shit happens." - Forrest Gump

None of the teams that lose where consider contenders and although I wasn't born when most of these blow out occurred. . I can't imagine any of them making the playoffs

this isnt sky falling window jumping. This is just looking at options when your among the worst teams in the NBA, have no picks, cap space or desired players to trade.

knicks1248 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Trying to keep just a little bit of perspective to all the gleeful window jumping going on round here...

Thanks to a three-point shooting barrage that reached historic levels, the Spurs dealt the Miami Heat their most lopsided postseason loss, 113-77, the 36-point loss is the largest postseason loss in Miami Heat franchise history. — NBA History (@NBAHistory) June 12, 2013

None of the teams that lose where consider contenders and although I wasn't born when most of these blow out occurred. . I can't imagine any of them making the playoffs

Reading's not high on your list of considerations, is it? And you being born is of course, truly relevant to this conversation.

The Knicks lost to a team that is rebuilding that has a record under .500 and a direct competitor in our division by 41 not a good team!

How about these odds no team that has started 2-8 at home as ever made the playoffs--even one time.

The Knicks desperately need some quality guard play and bigs that can rebound. This stinks

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:Be like me and stop watching this trash.....It's better for your health.

Talk about a playoff team losing by 40.....What playoff teams have an owner like Dollan?

same. At this point Im not even sure what to root for. At least with a draft pick rooting for utter failure has an upside.

My hope is that the geniuses in the front office just don't do anything foolish, like making meaningless trades that brings back contracts that don't allow them flexibility after next season. Just ride this BS out or trade Melo in an attempt to create cap space.

That 2 game winning streak was a mirage and the flaws on this team are so clear that the most casual NBA fan can see them.

NYK4ever - agreed about Stevens. Boston knows what they're doing and it is sickening to admit it.

SupremeCommander wrote:The Knicks desperately need some quality guard play and bigs that can rebound. This stinks

Isn't that a full team? Sounds like they need a lot.
Coach
Owner
Medical staff
Half time coach - whoever gets them ready for the 3rd quarter must leave.
Everybody that didn't want to rebuild after the Ewing era.

blkexec wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:The Knicks desperately need some quality guard play and bigs that can rebound. This stinks

Isn't that a full team? Sounds like they need a lot.
Coach
Owner
Medical staff
Half time coach - whoever gets them ready for the 3rd quarter must leave.
Everybody that didn't want to rebuild after the Ewing era.

yup and yikes

Our coach doesn't understands matchup and rotations.

I still have no idea why he would start Amare with Bargs to open the third quarter and keep Felton in the game over Prigs. You lose any speed matchup at the PF with Amare Felton was making bad decisions early.

I understand the ego's out there and the fact that you have Melo, JR, Artest, etc all in the same locker room, but come out running a couple of plays instead of forcing shots and going one on one.

ApophisADL wrote:Here we go. Hyping garbage teams.

Knicks were the 2nd best team last year.

last year is so far in the rear view mirror...

Perspective?

Ninja, perspective??

We're fielding a group of WNBA players out there, and that's probably an insult to the Liberty.

25,000 leagues around the sea couldn't gain you some perspective on this pile of shit.

To hell with them.

When hardly anyone on the team is consistently playing bad defense, how is Chandler going to suddenly going to turn things around. He's not a perfect defender either. Plus, we don't know how long long it will take for him to get his legs back underneath him when he does return. People relying on him to completely turn things around are setting themselves up for disappointment. This is an ugly situation for the Knicks.

even good teams have their off nights but a team that loses 9 straight is a team in trouble.

MS wrote:Our coach doesn't understands matchup and rotations.

MS - Our coach is working with what he has been given.

If you want to talk guard play, please cite which guards in the NBA the Knicks have a matchup advantage over. Either at the one or the two spot. Please.

BRIGGS wrote:This DR Jekyll and Mr Hyde show is perplexing. But the bottom line is would a solid playoff team lose by 40 at home to a sub .500 team 1/4 way into the season or have lost 80% of their home games? We saw some light and then had the door shout in our face. Boston looked younger VERY prepared and hungry.
Those two games will make the kNicks stay the course for atleast another 10.

The answer is yes if the organization from the top down is Jekyl &Hyde and has issues that are internal.

The team doesn't play well at home for a reason that you or I aren't privy to.

This is why we blame this one and that one for not being professional.

UGLINESS FROM THE TOP BREEDS UGLINESS ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM.

misterearl wrote:

MS wrote:Our coach doesn't understands matchup and rotations.

MS - Our coach is working with what he has been given.

If you want to talk guard play, please cite which guards in the NBA the Knicks have a matchup advantage over. Either at the one or the two spot. Please.

Our coach was given Toure Murry who is raw but by all accounts is at minimum a plus defender. Why doesn't Woodson give him a shot? Is he waiting for things to get worse? Is it possible for it to get any worse? It's mind boggling.

Also, the roster can be bad and Woodson can be a bad coach. Both those statements can be true. It's not necessarily one or the other.

H1AND1 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

MS wrote:Our coach doesn't understands matchup and rotations.

MS - Our coach is working with what he has been given.

If you want to talk guard play, please cite which guards in the NBA the Knicks have a matchup advantage over. Either at the one or the two spot. Please.

Our coach was given Toure Murry who is raw but by all accounts is at minimum a plus defender. Why doesn't Woodson give him a shot? Is he waiting for things to get worse? Is it possible for it to get any worse? It's mind boggling.

Also, the roster can be bad and Woodson can be a bad coach. Both those statements can be true. It's not necessarily one or the other.

I agree with this. Look Denver dumped Felton for a rookie Lawson, Portland dumped Felton for Jamal Crawford to start at PG, why are the Knicks unable to do this? Murray should be given a shot to win a position because let's face it whatever the Knicks throw out there sucks. I believe the Knicks are fearful of a young player panning out because they would be left with a tough decision like a Lin situation.

Toure Murray. By all accounts. Yes, indeedy.
By all means, Woody should do anything. Or everything. Or anyeverything. Start Jeremy Tyler, his first name is good karma. Start Cole, he's got funny teeth and ears.

Waiting for the "Free Chris Smith" thread to appear.

SupremeCommander wrote:The Knicks desperately need some quality guard play and bigs that can rebound. This stinks

THATS funny when some of us were talking about PG's we were told that Beno was a steal and the answer..

when we cried about not getting a big who can rebound or score in the paint, we were told that we needed a stretch 4..

Again, people cosigning the BS this organization does is hilarious... we desperately needed these things last year as well...

Vmart wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

MS wrote:Our coach doesn't understands matchup and rotations.

MS - Our coach is working with what he has been given.

If you want to talk guard play, please cite which guards in the NBA the Knicks have a matchup advantage over. Either at the one or the two spot. Please.

Our coach was given Toure Murry who is raw but by all accounts is at minimum a plus defender. Why doesn't Woodson give him a shot? Is he waiting for things to get worse? Is it possible for it to get any worse? It's mind boggling.

Also, the roster can be bad and Woodson can be a bad coach. Both those statements can be true. It's not necessarily one or the other.

I agree with this. Look Denver dumped Felton for a rookie Lawson, Portland dumped Felton for Jamal Crawford to start at PG, why are the Knicks unable to do this? Murray should be given a shot to win a position because let's face it whatever the Knicks throw out there sucks. I believe the Knicks are fearful of a young player panning out because they would be left with a tough decision like a Lin situation.

vmart, lawson should have been a lottery pick... jamal crawford is an established player in this league.. who in the heck is Murray? honestly, that is not some slam dunk decision for woodson to make... now I do agree that his reluctance to make changes like that hurt him. he basically buried Jeff Teague on the Hawks bench, and I think that was the last straw with management... but again, toure murray or whatever his name is isn't jeff Teague either...

Holy crap!:

I know we've been bad, but I was surprised to read this:

The Knicks are 5-15, tied for the worst 20-game start in franchise history.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/...

Yikes! I look at the roster, and it doesn't look like this should even be possible. So is this really the worst Knicks team EVER?! That's absolutely beyond disgraceful. Worse than any team IT ever constructed- quite an achievement...