Knicks · Kay heard from source that players blame Melo (page 3)
Silverfuel wrote:We won 54 games last year, why weren't they blaming him then? This sucks. Now Michael Kay is jerking us around with rumors.
Exactly, it comical. Although I don't agree with most of what Melo does, but he isn't the root of the problem. Our PG is the problem. Felton has been horrible, and I can't believe I wanted him back. He is now Portland bad.
tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.
How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.
Bonn1997 wrote:a better buildling block then an MVP candidate who gives you 30/8 a night? Oh wait.. those #s were only because we had veteran leadership. Now they are what? 26/10?fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.
When Denver is doing well it gets splashed all over as an indication of failure. Lets look at Denver. Gallo and Chandler are always hurt. Mosgov is a nice backup. They are .500, going nowhere and their best player is Ty Lawson who was drafted like 19th about five years ago.
Since the Melo trade Denver hasnt dont crap, the guys we sent over havent done crap, and they are going nowhere fast.
Combine that and the fact that we now have a roster consisting of Melo and a bunch of NBDL players and a coach who was out their to cater to him. It's not a very pretty ace to be IMO.
A lottery pick completely changes our outlook on this season
Oh and by the way Toronto has our 2016 pick which also went to Denver in the Melo trade.
You can't make this up
Dolan deserves this. I'm fine with not seeing a championship in my lifetime. I like seeing Dolan embarrass himself more
fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:a better buildling block then an MVP candidate who gives you 30/8 a night? Oh wait.. those #s were only because we had veteran leadership. Now they are what? 26/10?fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.When Denver is doing well it gets splashed all over as an indication of failure. Lets look at Denver. Gallo and Chandler are always hurt. Mosgov is a nice backup. They are .500, going nowhere and their best player is Ty Lawson who was drafted like 19th about five years ago.
Since the Melo trade Denver hasnt dont crap, the guys we sent over havent done crap, and they are going nowhere fast.
but they have a decent chance of taking a lottery pick from us this year and they are not bogged down with this senseless MELOdrama,
and i'm pretty sure they have a bunch of picks, options and ways to wiggle around.
you gonna ask me about flexibility now and you're gonna tell me it sucks
GUESS WHAT, I'D RATHER BE A FIRST ROUND AND OUT TEAM WITH FLEXIBILITY THAN A FIRST ROUND AND OUT (IF WE'RE LUCKY THIS YEAR) TEAM THAT HAS A BALL AND CHAIN AROUND ITS NECK
fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
First of all I feel great about gallo.. players get injured, but when healthy I know this.. his team can win 57 games, and his teamates are wanting him kicked off the team... I also feel great knowing he will be back in time to join the lottery pick the knicks will hand denver.
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow.
I know robbie will get them tomorrow.. he is a winner and a champion.. something carmelo can't boast.. and really no one is sitting here blaming cano's teamates and absolving him of any wrong.. that is the problem... you and some other posters are singing the woe is carmelo song..
it sucks...
franco12 wrote:The ball sticking is not all on Melo. Look at the other players- they catch, and typically allow the defense to get set before making a move. They think, they don't react/attack. I tend to think some of that is on the coach.Melo plays hard, holds the ball and only sometimes works at finding the open man. And his fa departure could be working to undermine team unity.
They don't move the ball until the defense sets up, they react super slow, switch on everything, hustling is optional, coach is clueless on how to keep his players focus, rotations are still inconsistent, rely on jump shots, pgs don't penetrate deep into the paint, so the kick out doesn't really get you an open shot unless you swing it around quickly which we dont.
I don't mind the melo iso's if he's going to react quick, but most times he waits until the double is commited, but in the clutch he works less because you have been doing it all game and any high school coach will figure it out..tll your team to play the passing lanes.
Fire the coach, trade tyson or JR
fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:a better buildling block then an MVP candidate who gives you 30/8 a night? Oh wait.. those #s were only because we had veteran leadership. Now they are what? 26/10?fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.When Denver is doing well it gets splashed all over as an indication of failure. Lets look at Denver. Gallo and Chandler are always hurt. Mosgov is a nice backup. They are .500, going nowhere and their best player is Ty Lawson who was drafted like 19th about five years ago.
Since the Melo trade Denver hasnt dont crap, the guys we sent over havent done crap, and they are going nowhere fast.
Denver with all of the injuries is still much better than we are playing in the tough west.. no one is really talking about denver, except with knick fans bring them up to justify the trade..
they are 500 building a team with youth and picks, they will have our lottery pick this year..
if you call that going nowhere, then let the knicks go there.. because we are 12 games under .500 with no picks and an overpaid aging wannabe star.
please, please take me to the land of nowhere!!!!!!!!!!
IronWillGiroud wrote:fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:a better buildling block then an MVP candidate who gives you 30/8 a night? Oh wait.. those #s were only because we had veteran leadership. Now they are what? 26/10?fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.When Denver is doing well it gets splashed all over as an indication of failure. Lets look at Denver. Gallo and Chandler are always hurt. Mosgov is a nice backup. They are .500, going nowhere and their best player is Ty Lawson who was drafted like 19th about five years ago.
Since the Melo trade Denver hasnt dont crap, the guys we sent over havent done crap, and they are going nowhere fast.
but they have a decent chance of taking a lottery pick from us this year and they are not bogged down with this senseless MELOdrama,
and i'm pretty sure they have a bunch of picks, options and ways to wiggle around.
you gonna ask me about flexibility now and you're gonna tell me it sucks
GUESS WHAT, I'D RATHER BE A FIRST ROUND AND OUT TEAM WITH FLEXIBILITY THAN A FIRST ROUND AND OUT (IF WE'RE LUCKY THIS YEAR) TEAM THAT HAS A BALL AND CHAIN AROUND ITS NECK
exactly...
players blame melo? i mean, sure, im sure they are pointing fingers all around. wouldn't you?
IronWillGiroud wrote:our problem is Melo drama? Seems like Melo is the only thing on this team you can count on.fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:a better buildling block then an MVP candidate who gives you 30/8 a night? Oh wait.. those #s were only because we had veteran leadership. Now they are what? 26/10?fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.When Denver is doing well it gets splashed all over as an indication of failure. Lets look at Denver. Gallo and Chandler are always hurt. Mosgov is a nice backup. They are .500, going nowhere and their best player is Ty Lawson who was drafted like 19th about five years ago.
Since the Melo trade Denver hasnt dont crap, the guys we sent over havent done crap, and they are going nowhere fast.
but they have a decent chance of taking a lottery pick from us this year and they are not bogged down with this senseless MELOdrama,
and i'm pretty sure they have a bunch of picks, options and ways to wiggle around.
you gonna ask me about flexibility now and you're gonna tell me it sucks
GUESS WHAT, I'D RATHER BE A FIRST ROUND AND OUT TEAM WITH FLEXIBILITY THAN A FIRST ROUND AND OUT (IF WE'RE LUCKY THIS YEAR) TEAM THAT HAS A BALL AND CHAIN AROUND ITS NECK
fishmike wrote:IronWillGiroud wrote:our problem is Melo drama? Seems like Melo is the only thing on this team you can count on.fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:a better buildling block then an MVP candidate who gives you 30/8 a night? Oh wait.. those #s were only because we had veteran leadership. Now they are what? 26/10?fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.When Denver is doing well it gets splashed all over as an indication of failure. Lets look at Denver. Gallo and Chandler are always hurt. Mosgov is a nice backup. They are .500, going nowhere and their best player is Ty Lawson who was drafted like 19th about five years ago.
Since the Melo trade Denver hasnt dont crap, the guys we sent over havent done crap, and they are going nowhere fast.
but they have a decent chance of taking a lottery pick from us this year and they are not bogged down with this senseless MELOdrama,
and i'm pretty sure they have a bunch of picks, options and ways to wiggle around.
you gonna ask me about flexibility now and you're gonna tell me it sucks
GUESS WHAT, I'D RATHER BE A FIRST ROUND AND OUT TEAM WITH FLEXIBILITY THAN A FIRST ROUND AND OUT (IF WE'RE LUCKY THIS YEAR) TEAM THAT HAS A BALL AND CHAIN AROUND ITS NECK
You can count on 43% shooting.
Bonn1997 wrote:fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.
Papabear Says
Oh so you trust Dolan to bring the right players. LOL
gunsnewing wrote:I'm most concerned with Denver getti g our lottery pick this year and the threat of the Knicks pick becoming the number 1 overall.Combine that and the fact that we now have a roster consisting of Melo and a bunch of NBDL players and a coach who was out their to cater to him. It's not a very pretty ace to be IMO.
A lottery pick completely changes our outlook on this season
Oh and by the way Toronto has our 2016 pick which also went to Denver in the Melo trade.
You can't make this up
Dolan deserves this. I'm fine with not seeing a championship in my lifetime. I like seeing Dolan embarrass himself more
Papabear Says
Guns LOL man you have a problem if you really mean that. You care less for yourself in order to try and hurt Dolan?? Look Dolan is a Billionaire he has crazy money and I don't think he will be crying. The Knicks is a toy to him and to me the Knicks are very special and I root for them every game. But right now they ain't doing so well.
Papabear wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
Kicking a player while he's down?
Our lottery picks would be good building blocks though.
Papabear SaysOh so you trust Dolan to bring the right players. LOL
so you trust dolan to build around carmelo? something that even some of the leagues better GM's could not do..
gunsnewing wrote:
Dolan deserves this. I'm fine with not seeing a championship in my lifetime. I like seeing Dolan embarrass himself more
So you'd rather Dolan suffer than win a championship? Don't you dislike Dolan because he keeps us from winning? If we were winning why would it matter what happens to Dolan? The guy is a terrible owner, but you're talking like he's hurt you on a personal level.
tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
First of all I feel great about gallo.. players get injured, but when healthy I know this.. his team can win 57 games, and his teamates are wanting him kicked off the team... I also feel great knowing he will be back in time to join the lottery pick the knicks will hand denver.
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow.I know robbie will get them tomorrow.. he is a winner and a champion.. something carmelo can't boast.. and really no one is sitting here blaming cano's teamates and absolving him of any wrong.. that is the problem... you and some other posters are singing the woe is carmelo song..
it sucks...
Not worried about gallo? I read that they hope he can comeback next year. Pretty hard not to be concerned with a young player that is so injury prone.
CrushAlot wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:tkf wrote:MSG3 wrote:Melo is the only one who has played hard every night. I can only think of one night he didn't and that was the Charlotte game last week. Look at the shooting of everyone else. Melo was making a big effort to feed Stat in the post and look for open men. NO ONE CAN MAKE SHOTS. TYSON IS USELESS ON O. What do people want from Melo? Incredible.how did you feel about carmelo's 4-23 shooting vs the clippers?
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow. Must be an indication of how good a player he is if he can have a 4-23 night and still AVERAGE 26ppg on 45% shooting. Its really pathetic dude.How do you feel about Gallo right now? Good building block? Do tell...
First of all I feel great about gallo.. players get injured, but when healthy I know this.. his team can win 57 games, and his teamates are wanting him kicked off the team... I also feel great knowing he will be back in time to join the lottery pick the knicks will hand denver.
you going to keep using that in every thread until someone answers? Let me... the same way you feel when Robbie Cano goes 0-4. You get them tomorrow.I know robbie will get them tomorrow.. he is a winner and a champion.. something carmelo can't boast.. and really no one is sitting here blaming cano's teamates and absolving him of any wrong.. that is the problem... you and some other posters are singing the woe is carmelo song..
it sucks...
Not worried about gallo? I read that they hope he can comeback next year. Pretty hard not to be concerned with a young player that is so injury prone.
well I don't know, maybe you can show me where denver said they hope he comes back next year.. meanwhile I will post what they actually said..
"Danilo's knee required that he undergo reconstruction of the ACL, which was successfully completed earlier this morning. Knowing Danilo's drive and work ethic, we look forward to a full recovery and a healthy return to the court next season."
sounds like they have no doubt.